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Doctor should measure the penis of all males

Originally Posted by matt121matt121 Parents attempting to DELAY puberty? I haven't ever heard this before, its totally crazy. How do they do it? I know I heard that the military puts drugs in the food

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Old 04-15-2009   #16 (permalink)
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Parents attempting to DELAY puberty? I haven't ever heard this before, its totally crazy.

How do they do it? I know I heard that the military puts drugs in the food to reduce the libido of the soldiers.

Do you have any sources to back up this?
Some kids are exposed to external estrogens and testosterone sources early in life and begin puberty very early, some as early as 4 or 5. In these cases doctors will try to delay puberty until the child is older.

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Old 04-15-2009   #17 (permalink)
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Old 04-15-2009   #18 (permalink)
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Some of these children live near birth control plants in Puerto Rico, where the standards of control and fume release are very lax.

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Old 04-15-2009   #19 (permalink)
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I think the patient would always have to approach the doctor with the ambition of fixing the issue. The only thing that can be done is raise awareness. If there is a problem is the doctor able to do anything about it anyway? I can understand the affects of a very small endowment, it is a cause for concern and is a medical issue, seen as the psychological effect is so harsh.
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Some kids are exposed to external estrogens and testosterone sources early in life and begin puberty very early, some as early as 4 or 5. In these cases doctors will try to delay puberty until the child is older.
Jason, good to see you again and thanks for the reply!
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Old 04-15-2009   #21 (permalink)
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Jason, good to see you again and thanks for the reply!
Very welcome and good to see you too!

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Old 04-17-2009   #22 (permalink)
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There are other conditions too that need to be looked for. One is what I have, buried penis. This condition means that there is a great deal of excess fat pad overhang caused by the penis being permanently pulled back against the pubic bone and thus shortening it. If you palpate my penis, you can feel a lot of it is inside the inguinal canal and scrotum. Weight loss or gain doesn't change the situation either as the retractile ligaments keep pulling the penis in as far as it can go. So you look like you're tiny even when you're very thin.

This condition, and others related to it such as trapped penis (due to radical circumcision) are not uncommon and surgery to correct it is simple in prepubertal children. It's easy to diagnose too. All a doctor need do is ask the boy to stretch his penis out as far as it can go. Flaccid stretched size is close enough to erect size to give a doctor an idea of what's going on. But most doctors won't even look for this if a parent doesn't mention anything. My pediatrician never bothered to look despite the fact my flaccid length was less than two inches and my flaccid girth was the same. I assume he assumed I would grow out of it at some point.

Buried penis is reported rarely in adults but that's because most urologists figure that it's underdiagnosed. I had seen a few urologists before, but it took one of the top guys in the country to take one look at me, feel around a bit, and discover what was going on. Corrective surgery is a bit involved, and expensive, but is covered under insurance if the condition interferes with normal functioning, which mine does. I was actually looking to get the surgery too just before I was diagnosed with cancer, but the cancer has to be addressed first and surgery now is not a good idea. Corrective surgery will allow me to have a normal flaccid penis and allow my penis to erect to its full length without much of it being hidden underneath my fat pad and in the scrotum and thus allow more penetration. Urination will be much easier too.

Things like buried penis and its related conditions should be checked for any time a doctor or parent even remotely suspects it's an issue. It's really simple to check for and correct before puberty. It can even be done after puberty. I wish I had known earlier what was going on. Would have saved me a world of heartache.
That's a good point, but most boys have a hernia check and a medical at school around age 11-12 in the UK. I would think that a buried penis is something that could be eyeballed and referred for further management, but still wouldn't require a doctor or nurse to measure a young chaps old chap, so to speak.

Soft measurements: 17cm x 13cm
Hard measurements: 23.5cm x 15cm
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Old 04-17-2009   #23 (permalink)
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the doctor should measure NO males!!! really i've never understood the notion to measure your own penis. i've never measured my penis because i don't care about my dimensions, i only care to know if that woman was satisfied when i was finished. who cares what average is and who cares what big or smaill is. just be happy with the size that you are and deal with it because you can't change it.
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Yes, it should be integral to a physical exam not only to detect a problem but to medically document growth as is the case with the other body parts. If a natural part of the program, then maybe there would be a different regard for the body - big or small. My dad was a physician with lots of doc friends. He accompanied me for my exams from early childhood through young adulthood. Nudity was the norm at home on most occasions so nudity at the doctor's office surely did not deter the doctor nor me. I had experiences at home with unexpected boners and lived through it and even saw dad sport one or two in the morning or in th ehome gym or pool. Measuring was part of the process and was helpful and educational. My issue would have been less one about under size than oversize at an earlier age than my friends. Such growth, I learned was nothing to be embarrassed about nor ashamed of since it followed familial patterns. A different issue however has occurred with regard to my foreskin. I am actually circumcized but when flaccid, the cock may seem uncircumsized. It has resulted in discussions with the doc and at naturist events/parties. KNowing that daad's cock had a bit more than usual skin helped my acceptance and I witnessed his need for the extra skin when erect. Made sense to me given the full picture with no need for concern. That too was progressivbely measured. So, I guess I have gone on too long. Hoope it helped some..............grababig1@aol.com
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Yes, it should be integral to a physical exam not only to detect a problem but to medically document growth as is the case with the other body parts.
Ah, of course, I was forgetting the biannual pinkie measurements that every child gets already. Seriously, which body parts do you think we measure on a regular basis?

Soft measurements: 17cm x 13cm
Hard measurements: 23.5cm x 15cm
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Old 04-17-2009   #26 (permalink)
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That's a good point, but most boys have a hernia check and a medical at school around age 11-12 in the UK. I would think that a buried penis is something that could be eyeballed and referred for further management, but still wouldn't require a doctor or nurse to measure a young chaps old chap, so to speak.
We had hernia checks as well yet still nothing was noted. The problem is that boys are so variable during puberty. I started early and became my full size at about 13 yet I had friends my same age who didn't start puberty until 17. There is no way for a doctor to be certain where a boy is in puberty without using an orchidometer to measure testicular volume as that's the only reliable way to measure pubertal development, yet very few pediatricians even have one.

Rather than measure the penis, I'd suggest a doctor ask the boy to press down on his fat pad, measure the testicular volume, and then palpate the area. There is no need to measure penis size (to my admittedly unprofessional knowledge). Mine certainly wasn't. Flaccid erect length stretching can be observed, if necessary, by asking the patient just to pull it forward.

There is a difference between medical and prurient interests yet there is no reason we should neglect the sexual health of males. Genital examinations should be regular in males of all ages as they are with women. Heaven knows men have plenty of possible problems, some serious even when young. I've run into a few young men here who are still in their teens but have numbness in their penis, inability to maintain erection, lesions on the penis, phimosis, chordee, tight frenulums, etc. etc. Just look through the content of this sub-forum! Most of these men would rather check the internet because of their uncertainty and embarassment yet I don't know a woman who wouldn't immediately schedule an appointment with a gynecologist with analagous problems. I think the reason for this is because doctors, at least here in the US, are terribly circumspect about examining male genitalia. Look on YouTube and you can find a number of videos about giving a thorough, complete physical on an adult male and the whole process runs about half an hour. How do you do that if you see 35 patients a day? I haven't dropped my pants for a GP except for a cyst on my butt in over 20 years! I think that's a bad reflection on the medical profession as a whole because it says that male genital health takes a backseat to female genital health and that's reflected in our society. A few simple tests and questions are all a doctor needs to know that a male's genitals are functioning as they should be.

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Old 04-18-2009   #27 (permalink)
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I haven't dropped my pants for a GP except for a cyst on my butt in over 20 years! I think that's a bad reflection on the medical profession as a whole because it says that male genital health takes a backseat to female genital health and that's reflected in our society. A few simple tests and questions are all a doctor needs to know that a male's genitals are functioning as they should be.
Every time I go for a physical (once a year), my doctor does a complete exam of my whole body, including looking for any evidence of skin cancer, he does an exam of my dick and balls, does a prostate exam(because cancer is so rampant in my family, the dr. said he was going to start doing those checks at age 35), and does a colon cancer check, too. This is all in addition to the regular things, like checking blood pressure, checking in my eyes, ears, nose, mouth, listening to lungs, etc.

If your doctor isn't doing all the checks you think he should be doing, it's time to find another one. It is one thing if you just go in because you have a sinus infection, or are in for a blood pressure check, but for a complete physical, the exam needs to be, well....complete!

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