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Anyone ever wear a kynodesme?

I'm just curious if anyone has ever worn one of these for running or any type of activity at all, and if so what are your thought, why do you wear it? How does it

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Old 05-26-2009   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone ever wear a kynodesme?

I'm just curious if anyone has ever worn one of these for running or any type of activity at all, and if so what are your thought, why do you wear it? How does it feel? Etc?

Since I know not many of you probably know what it is here is the definition:

Kynodesme (“dog leash”)

A leather strip (a string around the foreskin “akroposthion” ) binding the penis (called by the Athenians kyon or dog). Used for example by athletes who running nude can be painful. An image of an athlete with a kynodesme


Here are a few websites that explain it further and have some pics:
Link 1: Peter's Nudist Pages - Nude Lifestyle - Kynodesme
Link 2:The Ideal Prepuce in Ancient Greece and Rome
Link 3:The Kynodesme



Quote from Link 1:
It served several purposes, for what appears to be a variety of mixed reasons. For the athletes, it restrained the penis and stopped it flopping about, which the ancient Greece apparently found this preferable.

If addition to offering all the above advantages to the ancient Greeks, there was still one further attribute that it offered. The Greek standard of modesty held that the foreskin should cover the glans. Visible glans in an uncircumcised man was taken as evidence of sexual arousal and was thus considered indecent within the arena. Many athletes therefore wore the kynodesme. Its strand of string looped around the foreskin, closing it tightly over the glans, prevented mishaps,. The Greek code of genital etiquette obviously places circumcised Jews at an embarrassing disadvantage in the public baths, wrestling matches, and competitive games.
It is interesting to note that The Nilotic tribes of Africa also considered the glans to be offensive. It's interesting that such widely separated cultures should have such similar values.



I already knew that the Greeks had a thing about seeing the glans of the penis, but I didn't know that they were so absolutely serious about it.



Could this be part of the reason why Americans are so afraid of nudity? Because of the fact that the majority of men have their glans permanently on display, due to our culture of circumcision.



Note:
I just want to say that I don't want this to become a circumcision thread, this is a thread about the kynodesme not circumcision.



If anyone has ever worn one of these or has any thoughts it would be great to hear from you, and if you have worn one and wish to post pics that would be great.









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Old 05-26-2009   #2 (permalink)
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Unless you're restoring, God why??

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Old 05-26-2009   #3 (permalink)
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Unless you're restoring, God why??
I think its mostly for uncut guys, since I doubt any cut guys would be able to stretch the skin that far.

One of the main purposes was to keep the penis in one place so it wouldn't flop around during activities such as nude running, etc. as a flopping penis can be painful, and can be considered undesirable at times.

For uncut guys it has the effect of stretching and lengthening theakroposthion. Which was considered desirable in Greek society to prevent accidental glans exposure.

Here is the definition:
The tip of the shaft is called the glans [balanos], and the skin around the glans [is called the] prepuce [posthe], and the extremity of the prepuce is called the akroposthion

Its basically the portion of the foreskin that overhangs the glans of the penis.
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Old 05-26-2009   #4 (permalink)
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I think its mostly for uncut guys, since I doubt any cut guys would be able to stretch the skin that far.

One of the main purposes was to keep the penis in one place so it wouldn't flop around during activities such as nude running, etc. as a flopping penis can be painful, and can be considered undesirable at times.

For uncut guys it has the effect of stretching and lengthening theakroposthion. Which was considered desirable in Greek society to prevent accidental glans exposure.

Here is the definition:
The tip of the shaft is called the glans [balanos], and the skin around the glans [is called the] prepuce [posthe], and the extremity of the prepuce is called the akroposthion

Its basically the portion of the foreskin that overhangs the glans of the penis.
Yes, I know all that. I'm very familiar with Classical culture and history.

It just looks damned uncomfortable to wear. Guys who are restoring do use them, usually in the form of tape or a rubber O-ring to keep the foreskin over the glans. I know because I've done it as have many others. It's common to use during restoration when you can't wear a device or T-tape and your glans has become more sensitive.

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Old 05-26-2009   #5 (permalink)
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It just looks damned uncomfortable to wear.
Yea that was my thought also, that it does look really uncomfortable. And I think if there attempt was to make the penis less obvious it definitely fails in my option.

Tying it around the waist and putting the penis up like that seems to make it even more obvious. And I would think it would be even more uncomfortable to tie the penis back on itself like that, I know mine doesn't really bend that way, and I would be afraid of causing permanent damage.

I personally don't see anything wrong with just the natural hang of the penis, though some hang more out than down, so this could have been part of there issue.

Personally from my recent nudist experiences I haven't really experienced any discomfort just letting my penis hang naturally, granted I haven't gone running nude yet. Though I did find once that it was sorta uncomfortable to swim laps in the nude, I think I'll definitely keep a speedo around for that, since its nice to have things secure for that without the extra drag and/or rudder effect. Though I know that back in the past nude swimming was required so this would mean that guys swim on swim teams etc with everything just hanging loose, so I might have to give nude lap swimming a try again soon. And I know at most nudist resorts it would be deemed totally inappropriate to wear any type of underwear anywhere by itself, and any type of swimwear is always banned from the pool areas, so the only choice available is to hang loose.

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Old 05-26-2009   #6 (permalink)
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Heh I have an old 1980s porn that's all about men who have natural intact cocks with foreskin and they tie up the foreskin like that, it was something I'd never seen done before.
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Heh I have an old 1980s porn that's all about men who have natural intact cocks with foreskin and they tie up the foreskin like that, it was something I'd never seen done before.
Do you happen to remember what the title of it was?
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Do you happen to remember what the title of it was?
It was called Dock 9 I found it very cheap on sale at a local adult bookstore so I bought it on DVD awhile ago.
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Old 05-26-2009   #9 (permalink)
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I'm just curious if anyone has ever worn one of these for running or any type of activity at all, and if so what are your thought, why do you wear it?
hello no! i don't like to be tied down in any way...
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Old 05-26-2009   #10 (permalink)
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wouldn't it be hard to tie it tight enuff to stay on without cutting off circulation and causing your foreskin to die and fall off?

doesn't look like a good idea from ANY point of view. unless you're into self circumcising.

Et in Arcadia Ego
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Old 05-28-2009   #11 (permalink)
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being cut I find docking with an uncut guy very stimulating and when they cum I like to hold the skin tight against the back of my glans and you can feel the cum shooting and filling around your glans WOOF!!!
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Old 05-28-2009   #12 (permalink)
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It looks painfull (from a point of vue of a cut guy)

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