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Read this story: CBC News - Manitoba - Nude photos of judge contained in complaint Anyone else ever feel like a sex object? How often does this happen in real life?

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Old 09-01-2010   #1 (permalink)
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Are black men just sex objects to some?

Read this story:

CBC News - Manitoba - Nude photos of judge contained in complaint

Anyone else ever feel like a sex object? How often does this happen in real life?
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Old 09-01-2010   #2 (permalink)
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Yes. Definitely (re: the title question). To a lot of gay men (and straight women) black men are just seen as sex objects. They are seen as being "the other", edgy, exotic, even dangerous. Some people are totally turned on by the stereotype of black men (I've seen online personals from old white guys looking for young black "thugs", etc). Other people are really attracted to dark skin or even simply the visual contrast between their lighter skin and the darker skin of a black guy.

However, at a certain point, the black guy ceases to be a sex partner, but more of a sex object or toy. Simply a prop within a sexual fantasy. A living, breathing black dildo. In many ways it can be very fetishistic with some people. In this particular scenario, the black man may occupy the rung above the butt plug, leather whip and ball gag but occupy a position below a real partner on the sex ladder.

But its no different than with other groups as well. To some men, Asian women are seen as just sex objects. To some black men, white women are seen as such. Some gay guys view latino or asian men in that light.

And all people don't view black men as just sex objects, just as every man doesn't view an Asian woman as strictly a sex toy.
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Old 09-01-2010   #3 (permalink)
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BTW, if my response was completely off base, its because I only skimmed the article. Its long and I'm tired and have class tomorrow morning. My apologies.
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Old 09-01-2010   #4 (permalink)
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The only few times I've even been seen attracted was when people wanted to hook up with me just for sex. I'm looking for a real relationship, and this kinda bums me out

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Old 09-02-2010   #5 (permalink)
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Yes, in short its the medias fault. Oversexualize black men, feminize Asian men.

IE watch porn see how often a black man's cock is just refered to big cock and not big BLACK cock.

Took a whole class on this it's pretty interesting how far the stereotypes have gone.
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Old 09-02-2010   #6 (permalink)
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Heard of John persons comics?
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Old 09-02-2010   #7 (permalink)
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OK, time for a serious post. Sometimes I jest.

Let's transmogrify that question from, "Are Black men seen as sex objects," to "Are White women seen as sex objects."

One of the devices, or tools for critical analysis that we can all use is to take a proposition that seems difficult to analyze and to change terms in the proposition. Sometimes that lends clarity. For example, if someone said that it's annoying that Blacks get special treatment in college admissions, we might gain a wider perspective that might inform our annoyance if we switch a term to include legacy students who gain special treatment because one of their parents went to the college. Or that athletes get special treatment. We might see that our bias is not so much that colleges give special treatment, but that we just don't want Blacks getting that special treatment.

So in the term substitution, including White women, what would be your common sense, immediate answer?

Of course. Duh.

Some people view some folk as sex objects. HOWEVER, based on my own experience, which is certainly not something to extrapolate to characterize anything but my own experience, I'd say that:

a) Most people view Blacks with fear.
b) Often, people, especially young women, ascribe the characteristics of fictional thug hip hop Black male imagery to Black men. Example: I meet a woman whom I know to speak at least at a 9th grade English usage level and her salutation to me is "What up?"
c)

wait

one item I should include

FUCK rappers. FUCK thugs. Fuck ANYONE who uses the N-word. Fuck any audio system and the car that it resides in if any frequency it conveys is boosted more than 6 decibels above it's original level. Fuck ANY person who has spent more on a cell phone than they have on books in the past 3 years. Fuck anyone who can dance longer than they can listen to Cornell West. Fuck YOU if you know more rappers than elected officials. And if you can dance and you do that ignorant butt wiggle I hope the guy with the biggest cock on this forum dives from a 10 meter platform with a suicide steel prick directed at the crack of your dizzy ass with a circular error probability of zero.

Anyway,

the substitution probably doesn't add much clarity to the the direct answer to the question as much as it begs a larger question. What of it? Why is it that treatment of Black males viz White women, or any other segment of society, as sex objects is, well, objectionable or abhorrent?

The horny response (and I'm trying to be serious) is, "as long as we Black males get to nova (orgasm) what's the downside?"

The real response is that there has been an objectification of Blacks that is far more pernicious and destructive to our souls. One of the reasons why many of you can't drive into certain areas of your city is a product of those processes. Blacks, and especially Black males have been dehumanized and the process is alive and well. To take this question really seriously, because if it's about sexual escapades only, it's silly and frivolous question. But when we see the number of Black males who are dead and locked up in prisons, Black male unemployment, and maladjustment in society, it's not a question that any person who loves people would take lightly. Objectification in a form where it seeks to deny full citizenship and humanity kills Black men.

Black life is in crisis.

I better stop. This post is too long.

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Old 09-02-2010   #8 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peterdetruse View Post
OK, time for a serious post. Sometimes I jest.

Let's transmogrify that question from, "Are Black men seen as sex objects," to "Are White women seen as sex objects."

One of the devices, or tools for critical analysis that we can all use is to take a proposition that seems difficult to analyze and to change terms in the proposition. Sometimes that lends clarity. For example, if someone said that it's annoying that Blacks get special treatment in college admissions, we might gain a wider perspective that might inform our annoyance if we switch a term to include legacy students who gain special treatment because one of their parents went to the college. Or that athletes get special treatment. We might see that our bias is not so much that colleges give special treatment, but that we just don't want Blacks getting that special treatment.

So in the term substitution, including White women, what would be your common sense, immediate answer?

Of course. Duh.

Some people view some folk as sex objects. HOWEVER, based on my own experience, which is certainly not something to extrapolate to characterize anything but my own experience, I'd say that:

a) Most people view Blacks with fear.
b) Often, people, especially young women, ascribe the characteristics of fictional thug hip hop Black male imagery to Black men. Example: I meet a woman whom I know to speak at least at a 9th grade English usage level and her salutation to me is "What up?"
c)

wait

one item I should include

FUCK rappers. FUCK thugs. Fuck ANYONE who uses the N-word. Fuck any audio system and the car that it resides in if any frequency it conveys is boosted more than 6 decibels above it's original level. Fuck ANY person who has spent more on a cell phone than they have on books in the past 3 years. Fuck anyone who can dance longer than they can listen to Cornell West. Fuck YOU if you know more rappers than elected officials. And if you can dance and you do that ignorant butt wiggle I hope the guy with the biggest cock on this forum dives from a 10 meter platform with a suicide steel prick directed at the crack of your dizzy ass with a circular error probability of zero.

Anyway,

the substitution probably doesn't add much clarity to the the direct answer to the question as much as it begs a larger question. What of it? Why is it that treatment of Black males viz White women, or any other segment of society, as sex objects is, well, objectionable or abhorrent?

The horny response (and I'm trying to be serious) is, "as long as we Black males get to nova (orgasm) what's the downside?"

The real response is that there has been an objectification of Blacks that is far more pernicious and destructive to our souls. One of the reasons why many of you can't drive into certain areas of your city is a product of those processes. Blacks, and especially Black males have been dehumanized and the process is alive and well. To take this question really seriously, because if it's about sexual escapades only, it's silly and frivolous question. But when we see the number of Black males who are dead and locked up in prisons, Black male unemployment, and maladjustment in society, it's not a question that any person who loves people would take lightly. Objectification in a form where it seeks to deny full citizenship and humanity kills Black men.

Black life is in crisis.

I better stop. This post is too long.
Basically it's all this that makes me want to opt out of the US some days... not that there aren't mainfestations of this in other countries but it's less pervasive, and sometimes it's pointed at someone else...

It's amazing how tiresome it is to be stuck in someone else's imaginations this way. Some days I wouldn't mind being the guy who gets to nova (hadn't heard that term before, rather like it) but not if that's what it costs. Had a (pretty hot) coworker ask me out a couple of years ago, saying "my first boyfriend was black, we were really happy together, I'm just coming out of a relationship, I think what I really need is another black guy" more or less... She knew not much about me at that point, besides me being "the black guy she works with who couldn't help ogling her in meetings". It makes me kinda mad to think that if I hadn't already been in a couple I might have taken her up on it. I understood how some Asian women must feel...

I think it took her months, at least, to figure out a) who I was as a human being b) that she really didn't like me that much after all, 'cuz I was kind of a jerk :)
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Old 09-02-2010   #9 (permalink)
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We are soooo much more than that. Same with black women. We are more than just SEX, and HIP HOP and any other stereotype. We are people who love, people who care, people with families and good jobs. The media has done an injustice when it comes to African Americans! It saddens me that some people use blacks to live their lives on the edge. If you want to live on the edge then go sky diving. But as someone posted earlier Asians a being treated the same way, as are white women. Lets try this world, lets just like someone for who they are and not just so you can piss off daddy or live life on the edge.
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Old 09-02-2010   #10 (permalink)
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you don't have to be black to be a sex object. word gets out and you get attention from people you want nothing to do with.
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Old 09-02-2010   #11 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peterdetruse View Post
OK, time for a serious post. Sometimes I jest.

Let's transmogrify that question from, "Are Black men seen as sex objects," to "Are White women seen as sex objects."

One of the devices, or tools for critical analysis that we can all use is to take a proposition that seems difficult to analyze and to change terms in the proposition. Sometimes that lends clarity. For example, if someone said that it's annoying that Blacks get special treatment in college admissions, we might gain a wider perspective that might inform our annoyance if we switch a term to include legacy students who gain special treatment because one of their parents went to the college. Or that athletes get special treatment. We might see that our bias is not so much that colleges give special treatment, but that we just don't want Blacks getting that special treatment.

So in the term substitution, including White women, what would be your common sense, immediate answer?

Of course. Duh.

Some people view some folk as sex objects. HOWEVER, based on my own experience, which is certainly not something to extrapolate to characterize anything but my own experience, I'd say that:

a) Most people view Blacks with fear.
b) Often, people, especially young women, ascribe the characteristics of fictional thug hip hop Black male imagery to Black men. Example: I meet a woman whom I know to speak at least at a 9th grade English usage level and her salutation to me is "What up?"
c)

wait

one item I should include

FUCK rappers. FUCK thugs. Fuck ANYONE who uses the N-word. Fuck any audio system and the car that it resides in if any frequency it conveys is boosted more than 6 decibels above it's original level. Fuck ANY person who has spent more on a cell phone than they have on books in the past 3 years. Fuck anyone who can dance longer than they can listen to Cornell West. Fuck YOU if you know more rappers than elected officials. And if you can dance and you do that ignorant butt wiggle I hope the guy with the biggest cock on this forum dives from a 10 meter platform with a suicide steel prick directed at the crack of your dizzy ass with a circular error probability of zero.

Anyway,

the substitution probably doesn't add much clarity to the the direct answer to the question as much as it begs a larger question. What of it? Why is it that treatment of Black males viz White women, or any other segment of society, as sex objects is, well, objectionable or abhorrent?

The horny response (and I'm trying to be serious) is, "as long as we Black males get to nova (orgasm) what's the downside?"

The real response is that there has been an objectification of Blacks that is far more pernicious and destructive to our souls. One of the reasons why many of you can't drive into certain areas of your city is a product of those processes. Blacks, and especially Black males have been dehumanized and the process is alive and well. To take this question really seriously, because if it's about sexual escapades only, it's silly and frivolous question. But when we see the number of Black males who are dead and locked up in prisons, Black male unemployment, and maladjustment in society, it's not a question that any person who loves people would take lightly. Objectification in a form where it seeks to deny full citizenship and humanity kills Black men.

Black life is in crisis.

I better stop. This post is too long.

i agree with you my man..but don't hate hip-hop,it's lots of great artists out there..don't try eat what the mainstream always tries to feed you on the radio.
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Old 09-02-2010   #12 (permalink)
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Yep.



The STRUGGLE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS (on MANY fronts) is not over. It's only JUST BEGUN.
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Old 09-02-2010   #13 (permalink)
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Just the same; my wife likes Shemar Moore on 'Criminal Minds' just because he's hot-looking to her, and I noticed, the writers on that show don't give him much material; they use him the very same way beautiful starlets are cast in many shows.
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Old 09-03-2010   #14 (permalink)
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I work HARD. I love this site.

Which means all of you.

I get home pour a glass and decompress in dialogue. Let me tighten up some loose points and respond to you all.

I'm not in hate of hip hop. I'm in some ways a conflicted Black man, meaning normal.

I just typed, but then deleted a list of hip hop artists whom I went to brick and mortar stores and paid to own their music. That list includes groups that I paid to see in concert. I deleted it because it was getting long, and there were some purchases that I enjoyed but am embarrassed to state now.

The inheritance from Africa that produced Sarah Vaughn and Cannonball Adderley also produced the Ghetto Boys and Busta Rhymes. I recognize that. As a Black man with at least some of the sense that my mother imbued me with, I also understand that my responsibility is not just to complain about the state of a tree whose roots go to the continent of Africa, my responsibility is to nurture that tree. My rant was wrong.

Black men and women that promote the imagery that makes White women clutch their purses in elevators and for hiring managers to feel justification in destroying careers are killing us -- but only in the sense that a gun can kill us.

We've all failed to produce the successors to Gill Scott Heron and The Last Poets. At so many levels.

I rant against the bullet instead of the hand that directed its flight toward one of the tools that we need to build a future as equal Earth citizens.


Next one: Thinking about quiting the United States.

Read Randall Robinson's book about quiting America. This man is a hero. An American hero. A man who, as Sista Soulja said of Martin Luther King: Taught White People the meaning of civilization.

I feel like quiting America when I hear people talk about the strength of America is our constitution, then speak as though the so called founding fathers could comprehend the notion of an Asian or Black owning land, much less owning their freedom.

But you do not quit because of the sexual attitudes of some women.

To do that, you are like a Jew experiencing the dehumanization of the Night of Brown Shirts explaining that you want to leave Germany because you're being objectified sexually.

While your sexual interactions are broken, there's a far deeper process that is destroying your race. Where I live, people can't name a 65 year old Black man.

We need you here to fight!
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Old 09-03-2010   #15 (permalink)
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My understanding is that fetishes involving people of other races are common. I don't think it's just black men who some people see as sex objects. It's true of any race-sex combination you choose.
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