Originally Posted by _avg_
Any child who can see clearly and count accurately can tell you plainly that the "TWO" hands on Mandingo's dick certainly do NOT "fully
cover the entire
shaft," (emphasis added) even in the pictures you've chosen to show
. (Do you know what cherry-picking is, by the way? Oh, nevermind.)
In those shots and in these there is, unequivocally, exposed "shaft" (which is a curious choice of words, given that we're discussing full length measurements here) with room for several more fingers at least:
[edit - hmph, well I guess the links will appear at the bottom]
I'm quoting you on this now.
What, you mean like you did [in the first link, above]? No matter; the pic I posted shows 11 fingers (at least) -- or '3.75 hands' if you will -- knuckle-to-knuckle, with no overlap, covering the length of his dick from abdomen to tip. I quoted you above as saying a girls' fist is "2.8" width" (2.8" ...where do you come up with this shit?!) and I'm holding you to it: 2.8 x 3.75 = 10.5". Even if we were being ridiculously stingy and called it an even 2.5" then Mandingo is 9.375" long (and not a decimal more ) which is pretty much as we've been saying all along.
Originally Posted by _avg_
Alright, so I looked up "average human hand size" on Google and lo, Wikipedia, Knower of All Things, cited a medical journal publishing research conducted on the matter: ISPUB - Determination Of Sex By Hand Dimensions
In their methodology, they state that 'hand breadth' was measured as the "straight distance from the most laterally placed point on the hand of 2nd metacarpal to the most medially placed point located on the head of 5th metacarpal"...in other words, they did not include the thumb.
They reported that womens' hand breadth varied from 6.7cm to 8.8cm (7.48cm average), or 2.6" to 3.5" (2.94" average)...in other words, about three inches wide, on average.
Men tend to have broader palms than women, but even assuming that wasn't true, I have a broad palm that is 15% wider relative to my fingers measured at the point where the proximal and intermediate phalanges meet.
Assuming the lady in the pic I posted was average for a women and her hand is 15% broader than her fingers, 2.94 * .85 * 3.75 = 9.37" ....in other words, pretty much what we've been saying all along.
Oh and by the way, we can close the book on this "two hands covers him" bullshit:
Originally Posted by d-low1
Yeah, that pic is excellent.
Given that I know that length of an engorged penis head, from crest to tip, would be about 1.5"-2", and considering that she still has what appears to be another 2"+ inches of shaft behind the head until you get to the first hand, and adding the slight bit of length (0.5" let's say) left from the second hand to the base, and going by that standards for fist width rjf laid out here:
So we've got two female hands flush together on the shaft with little to no spacing, with a width of say 2.8". That gives us 5.6".
And that 0.5 at the end: 6.1"
Add another 1.5-2 inches for the head: 7.6"-8.1"
And then add the remainder of the shaft at let's say 2"-2.5" and I come out to a number of a low end of 9.6" and a high end of 10.6".
Even if we assume she has some freakishly small fist width of 2.5", I still end up with a low end of about 9" and a high end of 10", just going by that picture and from what I know.
All of which sounds just fine to me.
Originally Posted by d-low1
I will tell you why that pic is so important to this debate; it gives you a clear shot, with a perfect way to measure both the length of Tommy Rose's head, and the length of Mandingo's dick.
Since we know that an average female head for somebody Tommy's height is going to be between 7.5-8 inches, if we can measure the length of her head in this picture, and then figure out how much the difference is between her real length and the compressed length in this picture.
I measured her head in this pic, and at between 2.25 and 2.38 inches, let's call it 2.33 or 2 and 1/3 inches.
Alright, so much does 2.33 go into 7.5 and 8 inches, the range limits set for Tommy Rose's head?
2.33 goes into 7.5 about 3.22 times, and into 8 about 3.43 times; so we can say that her head is roughly in the range of 3.22-3.43 times larger than the length as shown in that screenshot.
Assuming that same rate of compression holds good for ALL things seen in this pic, we need to get a measure of the length of Mandingo's dick.
Measured in that screen-shot, his dick sits dead-bang on 3" long for me there.
Enter that number, and multiply it by 3.22 and 3.43, and we get a range of 9.66 to 10.29 inches, well in line with the numbers I worked out for post above based on the other pic of Lei holding his dick. Even granting a 6% rate of error on the length on the high and low ends of that range, 6% of 9.66 is 0.581 abouts, giving you a small-end of the range at about 9.1 inches, and on the high end 6% of 10.29 is going to be about 0.62, added to 10.29 for about 10.9 inches.
So with even with an intolerably high rate of error on the range, he's still between 9"-11" in length, but probably between 9 and 2/3 and 10 and 1/3 inches, going along the top and at full erection.
God damn I feel good.
Originally Posted by d-low1
My fruit-loopy friend, that has almost exactly ZERO
to do how I got to my exact figures, because I measured her head and his dick separately from each other. It's easy; put a tape measure from the bottom of her jaw-tip in that still and run it up to the top of her head, and presto, you have the length of her head. You can use a tape measure, right?
Hell why not build yourself a tiny T-square if you need help measuring?
From the top of her hairline, to the tip of her jaw, I've got 2 and 1/3's inches of length approximately. It's right between the 2 and 1/4 mark and the 2 and 3/8 mark for me, for approximately 2.33" . Got that?
Given that her heels are bringing her up to about Mandingo's height in that movie, which is 5'7" approximately, she's going to be about 5'3-4 or abouts, an average height for a woman.
A height of 5'3"-5'4" equals 63-64 inches. And as we found out from fact #2 listed here: List Lovers 101 Interesting Human body and Health Facts
"2. The human head is one-quarter of our total length at birth but only one-eighth of our total length by the time we reach adulthood.
So what is 1/8 of Tommy Rose's height (which is average), which will give us an approximation of her head length?
63-64 divided by 8 is: 7.875"-8" long, BUT
I lobbed you a soft-ball in that I I gave the range for her head as 7.5-8 inches long, not even giving the option of her head being larger than average (which would help my argument), but in fact smaller than what one would expect, just in case she happened to have the head of an average 5'0" woman (5 feet= 60" divide 60 by 8 gives 7.5")
From there, it's a matter of dividing 2.33" inches into the 7.5-8 inches of approximate length, and that will give us the rate of compression of the objects in that screen from their real length.
7.5 divided by 2.33= 3.21888412 but let's go 3.22 approximately.
8 divided by 2.33= 3.433476395 but let's go 3.43 approximately.
So the compression of the human head in the still is between 3.22-3.43 times smaller than the approximate real length. Wonderful.
Now, we measure the length of Mandingo's dick here; with a tape measure going straight along the dick in the picture (he's conveniently got some bush left on the end to mark the end of his shaft) I've got, from tip to the end of the shaft, approximately 3" inches. It's definitely between the 2.875" and the 3.125" mark on the measurement. So let's say 3", allowing for some slight variations.
We found the approximate ranges for rate of compression of objects in the screen already: 3.22-3.43 times smaller than the real length.
So to get back to Mandingo's true length, we need to plug that 3" measurement into the the figures established for rate of compression. Given that the objects in question are next to each other and at the same height, there's no issue of distorted perspective here. As CommandoPastor pointed out in post #11 here in Calboner's excellent thread here: http://www.lpsg.org/114980-17-x-10-3-4-a.html
there is the issue of perspective distortion of objects that are in the same frame but that in actuality are farther away than they appear to be, but that is not close to being issue here because Tommy Rose's head is not a yardstick laying on the floor beneath a dick that is 2.5-3 feet above it, kiddo.
Her head is flush up against that dick, and at the approximately same height my boy. I suppose if her head was laying flat on the floor like that yardstick mentioned above, you would have a case, but her head isn't, and you don't. SO anyway, Mandingo is approximately 3" long (compressed in that screenshot of course ) and his dick is occupying approximately the same three-dimensional area as the head we know to be compressed down 3.22-3.43 times smaller than it really is. So given those facts, we multiply 3" inches of compressed Mandingo dick by 3.22 and 3.43 , and hey presto, we have an approximate Mandingo dick size of 9.66 and 10.29.
Even giving myself a 6% margin of error in either direction, I've still got a range of 9.1-10.9 inches. And bare in mind that the low-end of the range incorporates the fact that I conceded the possibility that she MIGHT have an abnormally small head. If she has an abnormally LARGE head it would be even better for Mandingo's numbers, but I did not choose to extend the range that far. I wanted to give rfj a sporting chance here.
Originally Posted by Calboner
In the photo
, Kami Andrews has both hands on Mandingo's dick, the pinkie of her left almost at the base and the index finger of her right just short of the glans, with about three fingers of space in between. So the whole shaft, not counting the glans, has a length of at most three times the width of her hand. The length of the glans may be 2" by a generous estimate. If I assumed her hands to be as wide as mine (medium-sized male hands), which is to say 3" wide, I would get a figure of 11". But if I make a more realistic assumption that her hand is 2-1/2" wide, the length of Mandingo's penis comes out at 9-1/2".
I mean Jesus Christ already, we've had three different people: myself, Calboner, and avg all look over the physical evidence as best we could and all of us will tell you about the same thing: his dick is somewhere around 9.5"-10.5" long.
I'm going with a solid 10" plus or minus a 0.5" on his best or worst day, and calling on rfj to give up the ghost on this one already.