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Originally Posted by dufus A buff young guy can be an object of beauty, but in my opinion, the ones who overdo it are compensating for the small size of their penis. That's a pretty

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Old 01-15-2006   #16 (permalink)
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A buff young guy can be an object of beauty, but in my opinion, the ones who overdo it are compensating for the small size of their penis.
That's a pretty silly opinion to have, don't you think?

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Old 01-15-2006   #17 (permalink)
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yes, i had a long-term boyfriend who was both very hot and on the smaller side of average in the trouserial department.

yes, he was also an emotionally abusive, sociopathic basket-case (with hindsight, i'm also pretty sure he was straight).

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Old 01-15-2006   #18 (permalink)
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Oi vey, this could be a can of worms, but here goes. I have a friend who is currently researching social psychology and male empowerment, specifically as it pertains to black men. He's fascinating to talk to because he has backed up from the issue and is able to look at it clinically. The main problem with our perceptions is that we are confused about "equality". We hear echoes of "All men were created equal" and we think it's true, just because some guy said it! Well, it ain't. Some are fat, bald, rich, stupid, heroic, insightful, timid, hung, scared- very different, and in that sense INEQUAL. What our government documents were trying to infer was equal OPPORTUNITIES under the law, it was making no comment on our individual assets or deterrants. Are short men more likely to have ego issues? Yes. Do all short men have ego issues, no of course not! It's just that, statistically, the percentages are higher, which leads psychology to look for reasons why. A socioligist is not charged with the duty of considering an individual's worth, he is only looking at numbers, so he gets opportunities that nice guys walking down the street don't get. Do more black men commit crimes? yes. Do all black men commit crimes? No, of course not. Sociololgy only looks at what IS, psychology looks at why it is.

Answers to any of the questions that plague mankind will always be bio-psycho-social. To ignore any part of that is to have a diminished understanding of what is going on around you. We are not born tabula-rasa with no genetic influences. We are certainly not free from social stygmas attatched to our differences. It's just reality folks, nice place to visit sometimes.
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Old 01-15-2006   #19 (permalink)
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Are short men more likely to have ego issues? Yes.
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Old 01-15-2006   #20 (permalink)
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On Venus you are taller...that is ...next to the Venitians. Ya cutie pie
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Old 01-15-2006   #21 (permalink)
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Don't talk about me like I'm not here!
Sorry, I had on my old go-go boots, didn't see you there!

I hope you know that I meant that if 10% of guys have domination issues (I have no idea about actual figures here), then maybe 13% of short guys do. These kinds of things don't mean all or even most, just a higher percentage, and only then if you buy into my logic at all, which you may not.
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Old 01-16-2006   #22 (permalink)
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Oi vey, this could be a can of worms, but here goes. I have a friend who is currently researching social psychology and male empowerment, specifically as it pertains to black men. He's fascinating to talk to because he has backed up from the issue and is able to look at it clinically. The main problem with our perceptions is that we are confused about "equality". We hear echoes of "All men were created equal" and we think it's true, just because some guy said it! Well, it ain't. Some are fat, bald, rich, stupid, heroic, insightful, timid, hung, scared- very different, and in that sense INEQUAL. What our government documents were trying to infer was equal OPPORTUNITIES under the law, it was making no comment on our individual assets or deterrants. Are short men more likely to have ego issues? Yes. Do all short men have ego issues, no of course not! It's just that, statistically, the percentages are higher, which leads psychology to look for reasons why. A socioligist is not charged with the duty of considering an individual's worth, he is only looking at numbers, so he gets opportunities that nice guys walking down the street don't get. Do more black men commit crimes? yes. Do all black men commit crimes? No, of course not. Sociololgy only looks at what IS, psychology looks at why it is.

Answers to any of the questions that plague mankind will always be bio-psycho-social. To ignore any part of that is to have a diminished understanding of what is going on around you. We are not born tabula-rasa with no genetic influences. We are certainly not free from social stygmas attatched to our differences. It's just reality folks, nice place to visit sometimes.
Oi vey indeed... This sounds like something ChinemaTX would say. Have you finally succumbed to the dark side? Say it isn't so...
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Old 01-16-2006   #23 (permalink)
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Oi vey indeed... This sounds like something ChinemaTX would say. Have you finally succumbed to the dark side? Say it isn't so...
It does SOUND like something Chimera might write, but that doesn't say as much about MZ's argument as it points out that Chimera is clever enough to know that the best way to sell the big lie is to load it down with (improperly applied) truth.

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Old 01-16-2006   #24 (permalink)
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It does SOUND like something Chimera might write, but that doesn't say as much about MZ's argument as it points out that Chimera is clever enough to know that the best way to sell the big lie is to load it down with (improperly applied) truth.
Wow, neither one of you understood either Chimera's posts OR mine. He promoted biological imprinting, ala Rushton, to support racism. I couldn't be any further away without being a batshit leftist. I am saying that one must consider biology AND social influences AND personal psychological impact. That's what bio/psycho/social means. I assert that there are things that occur which are undeniable in EXISTANCE, but the reasons why they exist are complex and varied, no one method will provide a clear answer. If you think that sounds like Chimera, then I can only say I wish he were back to state his own point.
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Old 01-16-2006   #25 (permalink)
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Sorry, I had on my old go-go boots, didn't see you there!

I hope you know that I meant that if 10% of guys have domination issues (I have no idea about actual figures here), then maybe 13% of short guys do. These kinds of things don't mean all or even most, just a higher percentage, and only then if you buy into my logic at all, which you may not.
Just curious -- what do you mean by domination issues?
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Old 01-16-2006   #26 (permalink)
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I agree mainly with Madame Z.

To ask anyone to just "ignore" the weight of society is asking too much, and to say that anyone who is inferior in societies eyes is completely happy with themselves is stretching the truth to the extreme.

The sheer crushing weight and power of society on how we think and view ourselves and act, is going to leave a lasting impression on anyone who doesn't "measure up", and even if they arent running around snapping picks of big cocks and keeping them squirrelled away somewhere I'm willing to be that at the very least it hurts them when they lay awake at night that they are inadequate in societies' eyes.

Now I must confess my own inadequacy to use it as an example - I am really not very good looking. I have a huge (apart from another thing) nose, which makes me look like I don't know what - something with a rediculous nose anyhow. The point is, that no matter how broad minded I am, no matter how hard I try, I cannot ignore what is as plain as well, the nose on my face, and I cannot ignore the looks I get, and I cannot ignore the comments or the insults or the crushing brutalitity of my fellow man, yes, even you who moved away from me on the bus, I cannot ignore you! I cannot just "be happy with it", I cannot just "ignore societies judgement" I cannot do these things, because of just how deep the wound runs when society is so utterly turned against you, when people who you were quite comfortable around suddenly turn around and suggest that you "get a nose job on the NHS". Do you know just how absolutly soul destroying that is?

This doesnt mean I let it rule my life, I don't have the time of day for people who are obsessed with how I look (or how I'm supposed to look, or even how they look), and anyone who insults me is going to face my return comment (I have been described as having a tounge so sharp I could cut myself with it), but I simply cannot ignore it or be happy with how I look nor who I am when I simply do not meet societies standards, and is it so suprising when I am so harshly judged because of my looks that I am in a constant battle with depressive anxiety?

Now, thats with something as silly as an over-sized nose.

When the male ego is so hopelessly entangled in the need for a gigantic shlong, how the hell is somebody with a small one supposed to ever be "completely happy with themselves". Somewhere, deep down, I bet it hurts - it's just that some will show it more than others.

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Isn't it frightfully good to have a dong?
It's swell to have a stiffy!
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Old 01-16-2006   #27 (permalink)
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to say that anyone who is inferior in societies eyes is completely happy with themselves is stretching the truth to the extreme.
speak for yourself, boss
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Old 01-16-2006   #28 (permalink)
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I hate to poop on the party of equality that I usually support, but I think the social impact would be impossible to ignore. How could a man with an extremely small penis NOT be affected by what he knows people will think?
Also, it must be clearly noted that the actual size of the dick doesn't matter at all, it's the man's PERCEPTION of his dick that will influence his behavior.
I'd bet every dollar george bush ever stole that you could blame the vast majority of violence against women on men's insecurity about their penis.
It's amazing that the key sentence of a post is often overlooked. PERCEPTION. The word is in all caps. Some male models are extremely muscular and handsome with small dicks. They don't seem the least bit uneasy about it. The penis stands for what is male to men. It is the symbol. So if a boy is raised to have a healthy opinion of his penis then his PERCEPTION is great and there is no problem.

But we have had guys here with 8 inchers who felt they were small. Their PERCEPTION made for a less than friendly personality.

I visited a small penis site. I couldn't stand it. Some of the small dick guys there were nasty. Very nasty. They let their PERCEPTION of their penis totally destroy all they were and what they could be in life. Tragic.

No I am not hung. I have three sons. It works. Though not as well at age 54 as it did at 24.

PERCEPTION IS THE KEY.
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Old 01-17-2006   #29 (permalink)
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Ahhh, nice results opening up this can of worms. First, my ex-boyfriend wasn't a jerk. He was a nice, cute guy who was a closet cock whore/voyeur who had a tiny dick. His intimacy issues were partially due to his mother and partially due to the fact that for some reason he NEEDED to see, touch, photograph and video as many huge cocks as possible. I've met others with little dicks (fortunately not too many) and I believe many DO compensate.

I've met plenty bodybuilder guys with big dicks. That myth isn't always true but is sometimes true.

I think Chimera is a serial killer in training. I'm not joking. Hasn't anyone else gotten the feeling that he'd like to dissect you after getting to know you? He's one of the most intelligent teens I've found in years. He has sociopathic tendencies. I cannot call him a Sociopath due to his age. I think he probably is a Chimera and it's driven his obsession with genetics and genetic purity. Just my opinion.

So, a lesser-endowed male in a society so obsessed with the male member affects many (notice I didn't say all or almost all) modestly endowed males. MZ hit it on the head about perception. I was once with a guy who nearly split me in half who kept asking me if he was big enough. After a couple of weeks it got old. His cock looked like Chris Lord's.
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Old 01-17-2006   #30 (permalink)
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To ask anyone to just "ignore" the weight of society is asking too much, and to say that anyone who is inferior in societies eyes is completely happy with themselves is stretching the truth to the extreme.
you assume everyone gives a damn what society thinks of them. its probably true of most, but not all.
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