If The Majority of Women Can't Cum From Vaginal Sex

bluebassett · 10-07-2011

Wow Manly, I must have hit quite a nerve. To clarify: I liked femmes comment on, "If it's not going to happen, I just tap out, call a time out for water and a snack. I'm more than eager to give him a 'happy ending' if he wants a finish and I can't. Otherwise I can do it myself - he can watch if he likes." That, to me, is a woman who can enjoy herself and doesn't always need the fucking to get her off, but is still having fun. Also, she is more than happy to get the guy off and maybe finish herself as well. Women may not need to get off, Men are ussually going to want to. Sounds like men and women to me.

Oh, and part B: I said most women need SOME kind of connection. That might be as simple as being turned on and attracted to someone, horny and looking to get laid, or maybe just drunk and fell into bed with someone. I never said there must be love involved.

dolfette · 10-07-2011

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Originally Posted by bluebassett

Oh, and part B: I said most women need SOME kind of connection. That might be as simple as being turned on and attracted to someone, horny and looking to get laid, or maybe just drunk and fell into bed with someone. I never said there must be love involved.

point of fact: no, you did not.
what you actually said was this:

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Originally Posted by bluebassett

Women certainly need to feel SOME kind of connection to get there. Guys just seem to need hydraulics. LOL

there's a world of diffreence between ''some women'' and ''women certainly''. you hit a nerve because you said we're all the same. we're not.

bluebassett · 10-07-2011

Thanks for the correction, dolfette. I'll work on my grammer.

My thinking was/is women certainly seem to need some kind of connection... In my experience. There is no way I believe women are all the same.

dolfette · 10-07-2011

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Originally Posted by bluebassett

Thanks for the correction, dolfette. I'll work on my grammer.

My thinking was/is women certainly seem to need some kind of connection... In my experience. There is no way I believe women are all the same.

i know plenty of women who don't and a hell of a lot of men who do. i'll grant that it's more common in women than in men, but still...

bluebassett · 10-07-2011

Thanks for being so diplomatic... with that big shiny knife.

dolfette · 10-07-2011

diplomacy works best when you have a big knife in your hand.

MelbourneGirl · 10-07-2011

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Originally Posted by VernalTiger

I love sex. I love oral, anal, squirting, deep fucking, DP, hands, tongues and cocks, but I've never cum. It's not his fault any more than it's my fault. My goal is not to cum. My goal is to have awesome sex and have a great time with a friend. That bit, you'd think, would be easy.

I know exactly what you mean, VernalTiger. I've only cum a handful of times from sex, but it doesn't matter an iota to me. I have amazing sex with my partners and while I know they are sometimes disappointed at my lack of orgasm, they learn to deal wtih it.

helgaleena · 10-07-2011

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Originally Posted by dolfette

utter rot.

utter patronising rot at that. the assumption that not a single one of these vast numbers of women has the sexual maturity and open mind that you have?

the arrogance of that is astounding!

I didn't mention myself at all, dolfette. And if you don't choose to share your orgasm with another person, that is your choice. But I'll bet some of the toys you mention are meant to be inserted! So you are coming from vaginal penetration with them, at least now and then.

And also, I agree with you that it is wrong to judge a vaginal component to an orgasm as somehow superior to an orgasm that doesn't involve the vaginal.

helgaleena · 10-07-2011

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Originally Posted by ManlyBanisters

I agree about not neglecting mindset, but otherwise I'm completely with dolfette here. You talk about "other more important priorities" and the need for "the correct partner and an open mind" - that really is very condescending to those that don't have vaginal orgasms. Not to mention it upholds what I thought was mainly a man myth, i.e. 'you just haven't been fucked right yet'. But it seems some women believe this myth too.
Yeah - it kinda shocked me coming from helg, too.

Manly, you and dolfette are both reading into my post something which is not there, which is a belief that vaginal orgasm is some sort of holy grail of orgasms superior to all other sexual enjoyment, orgasmic or not.

Dolfette fakes because she wants to keep her real orgasms private. At least that is how I am understanding what she writes.
And as a wee thing I understood only clitoral orgasm and the rest of my body was pretty foreign to me. It has taken me decades to truly enjoy being touched, and a lifetime to learn to orgasm from other stimuli than clit, including vaginal. I do not presume to dictate how any other woman should feel in her own lovely body. Everyone is unique.

What I object to most strenuously is a mindset about any stimulus that includes 'can't'. Anything can conceivably be construed as pleasure in the right setting by someone, as long as they are not yet dead. Don't rule anything out; it's living in a box.

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Originally Posted by ManlyBanisters

And that's why many women fake. To try and avert those hurt feelings and possible tantrumming some guys get all caught up in when they think they have 'failed'. The expectation of mind-blowing orgasmic sex from the outset is totally unfair on both men and women.

Complete agreement from moi.

dolfette · 10-07-2011

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Originally Posted by helgaleena

I didn't mention myself at all, dolfette. And if you don't choose to share your orgasm with another person, that is your choice. But I'll bet some of the toys you mention are meant to be inserted! So you are coming from vaginal penetration with them, at least now and then.

no, i am not.

i quite clearly stated that i don't, and how dare you tell me otherwise! that's just seriously fucking rude. insulting my intelligence by claiming to know more about how i'm wanking than i do?

i am orgasming from clitoral stimulation.

if i happen to brush my teeth while i'm rubbing my clit, that doesn't mean i'm cumming from gum stimulation. it's incidental.
as it happens, i find penetration makes orgasm more difficult. when i orgasm it's from the clit.

just plain fucking rude.

helgaleena · 10-07-2011

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Originally Posted by dolfette

no, i am not.

i quite clearly stated that i don't, and how dare you tell me otherwise! that's just seriously fucking rude. insulting my intelligence by claiming to know more about how i'm wanking than i do?

i am orgasming from clitoral stimulation.

if i happen to brush my teeth while i'm rubbing my clit, that doesn't mean i'm cumming from gum stimulation. it's incidental.
as it happens, i find penetration makes orgasm more difficult. when i orgasm it's from the clit.

just plain fucking rude.

Then I didn't understand you and I apologize.

dolfette · 10-07-2011

i hate it when people are reasonable when i'm angry.

Phil Ayesho · 10-07-2011

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Originally Posted by Intrigue

I noticed I used to be, still am sometimes, very concerned with the orgasm of my partner because it brought me so much "validation". Once I figured out that was just silly it became much more about fun and enjoyment than about reaching a finish line. It is easy to get caught up in it, atleast it was how I was raised. The "disease" to please. ugh.

...concerned about your partner's pleasure... you rat bastard, you.

Phil Ayesho · 10-07-2011

I have only known one woman who could come from vaginal stimulation, alone.
Out of... 9?
And even that I suspect is just the fortuitous mix of her physiology with mine ( she says it seldom happened with other men )

for a long time I was a doubter that women had vaginal orgasm... or that it differed in any respect to clitoral orgasm, but it definitely exists and lots of women definitely can't regardless of size...

from my experience it seems a rare capability... but that just might be the luck of my particular draw.

Catchoftheday · 10-07-2011

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Originally Posted by cocktaste

so does that mean that unless your partner plays with her clit during penetration, she's probably faking an orgasm?

Stupid question
I'm gay, so I have no clue about the mechanics of this.

I thought maybe some actual ladies on here could provide some info.

Why