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Amen brother. When did society change the rules about nudity? Better question is why? There seems to be a fear of being nude or being seen nude that has evolved in the last few years

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Old 12-02-2011   #16 (permalink)
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Amen brother.
When did society change the rules about nudity? Better question is why?
There seems to be a fear of being nude or being seen nude that has evolved in the last few years and I really have no idea how this came about. I don't think that homophobia plays into this situation since homosexuality has become more accepted by the majority of sane people in the US. I don't think that the religious right has the social clout to instlll such a change. So what has made young American men so insecure about themselves and their bodies? Maybe it is the lack of early male bonding starting with father and son and through junior high. Personally, I'm glad I had those experiences as I was growing up and it's sad and unhealthy for those men who didn't. It's okay to see or be seen naked. It's okay to see men naked and realize that there's nothing wrong or nasty or threatening going on.
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Old 12-02-2011   #17 (permalink)
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ive always wanted to swim at a pool nude or find a place to shower in open stalls but am too shy and afraid id be caught staring or get an erection. miss the days of being in the military showering with 100 other guys all naked in the shower area at once. anyone live in las vegas and know any free public places to do either?
Old 12-02-2011   #18 (permalink)
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I recall posting to a thread a long time ago about "old YMCA experiences." When I was an adolescent, my old-style small town Y was one of the very few left I think that still offered nude swimming for males, but only on certain days and times. It was discontinued, because I think they got in trouble for doing it. It was a lot of fun, though. Not only was it nice and "natural" feeling to swim nude, but as a young gay guy, I really liked hanging out at the pool with other naked males. Although still an adolescent, my body had already gone through the main changes, and I enjoyed showing off. My big dick & balls and red pubic hair received some looks and comments, and I liked the attention. I can also recall having a crush on one of the instructors who worked there, who was a really hot looking guy. I think he knew I liked him, but I was still a kid, and nothing ever happened.

A couple of years ago, I worked out at the downtown Y for a while in the city where I live. There was no nude swimming, but the locker room was reminiscent of my old hometown Y, e.g., large gang style showers, a lot of guys of all ages, although more racially mixed than what was the case at the Y in my hometown. For whatever reason, I experienced the locker room culture at the Y to be much more comfortable with nudity than most other gym locker rooms today. There are always a few shy guys, but most men acted like men used to act in locker rooms, without all the weird hang-ups that you increasingly see these days about being naked in front of other men and seeing other men naked. I liked that.
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Old 12-02-2011   #19 (permalink)
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I will never understand why men feel threatened by being naked in fromt of other men. As a gay man, I have never put the moves on any man while at the gym or locker room. Now I have had "straight" and married men come on to me. I was flattered, not threatened.
You see all body types from buff to obese, so what's the deal. Men look at men, it's just curiosity and not a signal to get sexual. I know there are men who troll the locker rooms to get their jollies and if one of these men is oggeling you, you must be nice to look at, so puff up that chest and walk proud.
Men who shower in their boxers or brief need some professional help. A swimsuit I can understand. You should get the chemicals from the pool washed out but boxers, please. Makes me wonder about what they do at home and how do you handle wet boxers when going home. I saw a young man standing at the mirror drying his boxers with a blow dryer so he could put on his jeans. Was he hideing a vagina?
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Old 12-03-2011   #20 (permalink)
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I don't think men feel threatened by nudity. Our American culture has somehow tied nudity together with sexual misconduct. I was recently at a spa in Atlantic City and was asked to put on a paper diaper while sitting in the steam room to "cover up". This spa has a men only wet room. Nothing funny was going on, yet management needed to walk into the steam room and tell a few of us to cover up. They lost a customer...and probably don't really care.

So, we now have men bringing their young sons and daughters into the mens locker room and complaining that nudity is inapropriate. It takes only one complaint from a jackass for management to react.


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I will never understand why men feel threatened by being naked in fromt of other men. As a gay man, I have never put the moves on any man while at the gym or locker room. Now I have had "straight" and married men come on to me. I was flattered, not threatened.
You see all body types from buff to obese, so what's the deal. Men look at men, it's just curiosity and not a signal to get sexual. I know there are men who troll the locker rooms to get their jollies and if one of these men is oggeling you, you must be nice to look at, so puff up that chest and walk proud.
Men who shower in their boxers or brief need some professional help. A swimsuit I can understand. You should get the chemicals from the pool washed out but boxers, please. Makes me wonder about what they do at home and how do you handle wet boxers when going home. I saw a young man standing at the mirror drying his boxers with a blow dryer so he could put on his jeans. Was he hideing a vagina?
Old 12-05-2011   #21 (permalink)
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Once you have swum nude you don't wish to swim any other way and so it is a sad loss.
Old 12-06-2011   #22 (permalink)
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Once you have swum nude you don't wish to swim any other way and so it is a sad loss.
Maybe true for some of us but not for most, or else there would be far more nude swims and naturist clubs where would could socialise naked.
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Old 12-06-2011   #23 (permalink)
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The downtown Y in Montreal was connected to a university so in the afternoon there were plenty of college guys swimming nude. I once swam nude there with a college buddy I knew in High School (we showered together in High School for two years because we were in the same gym class) and trying not to get a boner was very difficult (I got a semi). When I moved to another city I swam nude at the Y where there were many young guys. I got friendly with some guys in the weight room and we sometimes ended up in the pool. Everything was very cool; swimming naked was taken for granted. I sure saw an eyeful of hot guys, including guys I worked with. During those nights for teens if a guy wore a bathing suit (you were allowed to) he was teased by other teens and called chicken.
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Old 12-06-2011   #24 (permalink)
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Once you have swum nude you don't wish to swim any other way and so it is a sad loss.
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Maybe true for some of us but not for most, or else there would be far more nude swims and naturist clubs where would could socialise naked.
There's not nearly enough opportunties to swim naked for most people. I've only done it twice. First time was Hampstead Ponds in the 70s in a heatwave, second time was in the sea at a nudist beach in the 80s. It is amazing, the difference that lack of a scrap of cloth makes.
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Old 12-06-2011   #25 (permalink)
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Much as I'd like to, I just can't bring myself to believe the Y had nude swimming! Even tho I guess it's true; there are certainly enough stories about it. It's just inconceivable that it took place--even more so that it'll ever happen again, especially among men and teens ( thanks, Mr Sandusky; you've now made innocent nudity a crime for those of us who like it but would never do what you did to a boy!)
I agree with the above posts that nudity is crucial for the male psyche and that we've lost something valuable.
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Old 12-06-2011   #26 (permalink)
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The pool at my club here in nyc (not a YMCA) remains nude. It seems odd the first few times, but you normalize it quickly.
Are you serious?! What club is that??
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Old 12-07-2011   #27 (permalink)
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There's not nearly enough opportunties to swim naked for most people. I've only done it twice. First time was Hampstead Ponds in the 70s in a heatwave, second time was in the sea at a nudist beach in the 80s. It is amazing, the difference that lack of a scrap of cloth makes.
"not nearly enough opportunities", but there are far more opportunities, even in London, than 2 times in 40 years !

Hampstead is still open, gymnos had nude male swimming until recently there is another gay nude swimming group in south london. Eureka nudist club in kent has always been open to all (albeit recently it has become more sexual) and was my first experience of true naturism. There are other nudist clubs that allow single guys to go along. And there are nude beaches - eg Hastings and Bournemouth where you can swim naked in the sea.

If people don't take the chances there are to go naked, then there may not be these chances in the future, this is as true of swimming naked as it is of anything else !
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Old 12-08-2011   #28 (permalink)
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Amen brother.
When did society change the rules about nudity? Better question is why?
There seems to be a fear of being nude or being seen nude that has evolved in the last few years and I really have no idea how this came about.
I dont think pedophile priests has helped the issue.

When I was growing up we were all nude inside locker rooms & it was never an issue. I was at a small town recently, at the school cake stall there was also a warning about perverts WTF. I would not like to me a male teacher in today's climate.
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Old 12-08-2011   #29 (permalink)
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I think Mr. Sandusky just may have changed everything. If he's found guilty and if other schools have any other charges against them, the whole idea of nudity of any kind in any kind of public lockerroom setting may have just changed our perception and attitudes towards lockerrooms. Period.
I read one comment on another site, that legally now, any nudity in regular gyms may seriously constitute Harrassement. I don't think he was far off the mark.
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Old 12-16-2011   #30 (permalink)
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Sorry who is this Mr Sandusky ?

also has anyone here been to the hampstead ponds in London, what are they like ?
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