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I'll put this one in both the politics section and the womens section. it involves both. House Republicans muscle abortion restrictions to passage over passionate Democratic protests - dailypress.com Va House set to enact mandatory

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Old 02-15-2012   #1 (permalink)
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Contraceptive Issues

I'll put this one in both the politics section and the womens section. it involves both.

House Republicans muscle abortion restrictions to passage over passionate Democratic protests - dailypress.com

Va House set to enact mandatory invasive ultrasound probe for women who seek abortions - The Washington Post 

98% of women use birth control in the United states.

Every time it comes up, poll after poll goes against banning contraceptives. Yet republicans leaders always jump at it. Birth control is evil, abortion is murder, etc etc... It gets a lot of attention for a week or two and then it blows up.

In Virginia, there is a republican bill that just past the state house and is on to the state senate that says any woman seeking an abortion must undergo an internal vaginal ultrasound. To be clear, if this bill is made into law any woman who wants an abortion then she must lay on a table and have a doctor stick a "probe" inside her gentiles. There is no medical cause for the procedure. None. This is a party that says the government has no right to demand anyone buy health insurance and yet these same people are saying the government has a right to insert a vaginal probe into a woman's body for no medical reason and she has no choice about it.

Why is this not front page news? Where is the outrage for this?
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Old 02-15-2012   #2 (permalink)
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I'll put this one in both the politics section and the womens section. it involves both.


House Republicans muscle abortion restrictions to passage over passionate Democratic protests - dailypress.com


Va House set to enact mandatory invasive ultrasound probe for women who seek abortions - The Washington Post 


98% of women use birth control in the United states.


Every time it comes up, poll after poll goes against banning contraceptives. Yet republicans leaders always jump at it. Birth control is evil, abortion is murder, etc etc... It gets a lot of attention for a week or two and then it blows up.


In Virginia, there is a republican bill that just past the state house and is on to the state senate that says any woman seeking an abortion must undergo an internal vaginal ultrasound. To be clear, if this bill is made into law any woman who wants an abortion then she must lay on a table and have a doctor stick a "probe" inside her gentiles. There is no medical cause for the procedure. None. This is a party that says the government has no right to demand anyone buy health insurance and yet these same people are saying the government has a right to insert a vaginal probe into a woman's body for no medical reason and she has no choice about it.


Why is this not front page news? Where is the outrage for this?
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Old 02-15-2012   #3 (permalink)
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I'll put this one in both the politics section and the womens section. it involves both.

House Republicans muscle abortion restrictions to passage over passionate Democratic protests - dailypress.com

Va House set to enact mandatory invasive ultrasound probe for women who seek abortions - The Washington Post 

98% of women use birth control in the United states.

Every time it comes up, poll after poll goes against banning contraceptives. Yet republicans leaders always jump at it. Birth control is evil, abortion is murder, etc etc... It gets a lot of attention for a week or two and then it blows up.

In Virginia, there is a republican bill that just past the state house and is on to the state senate that says any woman seeking an abortion must undergo an internal vaginal ultrasound. To be clear, if this bill is made into law any woman who wants an abortion then she must lay on a table and have a doctor stick a "probe" inside her gentiles. There is no medical cause for the procedure. None. This is a party that says the government has no right to demand anyone buy health insurance and yet these same people are saying the government has a right to insert a vaginal probe into a woman's body for no medical reason and she has no choice about it.

Why is this not front page news? Where is the outrage for this?
The bills won't pass, and are already backfiring on those that sought to use them as political wedges.
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Old 02-15-2012   #4 (permalink)
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Sorry - I had to delete all your font tags there were annoying as all hell and the text is too small for me to read easily.
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I'll put this one in both the politics section and the womens section. it involves both.
That's frowned upon here - don't be surprised if your threads get merged.


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98% of women use birth control in the United states.
That statement is inaccurate - the actual truth is that 98% of women residing in the USA have used some method of birth control at some point in their lives. I mean even if you are only talking about women above the age of 18 - way more than 2% are not using birth control of any kind because they are post-menopause.

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Every time it comes up, poll after poll goes against banning contraceptives. Yet republicans leaders always jump at it. Birth control is evil, abortion is murder, etc etc... It gets a lot of attention for a week or two and then it blows up.
And have they managed to ban birth control yet?

These people make a lot of noise about it - part of that is to satisfy their very conservative voters, I think they make noise safe in the knowledge that personhood from the moment of conception will never win the support of the majority of voters. But the ultra-conservatives can look at these politicians and say to themselves 'at least he/she is trying'.

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In Virginia, there is a republican bill that just past the state house and is on to the state senate that says any woman seeking an abortion must undergo an internal vaginal ultrasound. To be clear, if this bill is made into law any woman who wants an abortion then she must lay on a table and have a doctor stick a "probe" inside her gentiles.
So Jewish women will have to bring a friend?

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There is no medical cause for the procedure. None. This is a party that says the government has no right to demand anyone buy health insurance and yet these same people are saying the government has a right to insert a vaginal probe into a woman's body for no medical reason and she has no choice about it.

Why is this not front page news? Where is the outrage for this?
I agree that the idea of a mandatory vaginal ultrasound is wrong - do you have a link to the actual bill itself, I'd be interested to read the reasons they have stated for this medical procedure.

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Old 02-15-2012   #5 (permalink)
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There is ample outrage; but why use it now, when it is so much more effective at the ballot box?
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Old 02-15-2012   #6 (permalink)
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if, medically, an external scan will do just as well as an internal...

this is nothing but state enforced sexual assault as a way of punishing women for seeking abortion. is this legal?

love is a lie
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Old 02-15-2012   #7 (permalink)
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if, medically, an external scan will do just as well as an internal...

this is nothing but state enforced sexual assault as a way of punishing women for seeking abortion. is this legal?
No - obviously not - or they wouldn't have to write it into law with a bill like this. Would such a bill, if passed, be unconstitutional? I don't know enough about it to answer that. Maybe someone else does.

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Old 02-15-2012   #8 (permalink)
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Why is this not front page news? Where is the outrage for this?
Rachel Maddow has been covering it very well.

War on birth control

"The meaning of life is to find your gift. The purpose of live is to give it away."

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Old 02-16-2012   #9 (permalink)
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And have they managed to ban birth control yet?
They did previously, and many would like to again. Up through the mid 1960s the State of Connecticut and several others banned the sale and use of contraception, even by married couples. In 1965 the US Supreme Court struck down those laws as they concerned husband and wife, and 7 years later expanded the right to use birth control to unmarried couples. A number of Americans believe those decisions were dead wrong -- usually the same folks who disagree with Roe v. Wade (abortion), or Loving vs. Virginia (miscegenation) or the surrender at Appomattox (War of Northern Aggression).
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Old 02-16-2012   #10 (permalink)
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Welcome to the United States. It's 2012 and we're still fighting about birth control. That's about as depressing as it gets.

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Old 02-16-2012   #11 (permalink)
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Please, please, PLEASE make contraception an issue in the upcoming presidential election. I want to see the GOP be that politically suicidal.
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Old 02-16-2012   #12 (permalink)
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Here is Rick Santorum's #1 donor and champion on MSNBC. I was watching this live and had the same reaction as Andrea Mitchell. ABSOLUTELY SPEECHLESS>

Santorum Backer Friess Suggests "Aspirin Between Their Knees" As Contraception - YouTube

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Old 02-17-2012   #13 (permalink)
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Please, please, PLEASE make contraception an issue in the upcoming presidential election. I want to see the GOP be that politically suicidal.
Does the GOP really want to go there on birth control?


Short answer. Yes they do want to go there. Abortion is so passe now. We need to really push it to the next level. Contraception is abortion.

"The meaning of life is to find your gift. The purpose of live is to give it away."

-Pablo Picasso
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Old 02-18-2012   #14 (permalink)
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Bill Maher said it best "With this bunch of nutbags life begins at erection ".
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Old 02-18-2012   #15 (permalink)
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Yeah, Maher was pretty damn funny. He said the current crop of conservatives believe that before the man can even light a cigarette, "there's now a third person in that room".
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