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Old 04-10-2012   #1 (permalink)
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What is your opinion on this article?

Thanks To NDAA (And Other Laws), You May Now Be A Serf - Business Insider

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Old 04-10-2012   #2 (permalink)
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I would offer my opinion, but I think the Terms of Service prohibit me.
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Old 04-10-2012   #3 (permalink)
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Old 04-10-2012   #4 (permalink)
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this is a head scratcher.... lol

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Old 04-10-2012   #5 (permalink)
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I think Obama is fine as is the United States of America in his hands. I agree with much of what he has done and disgree on others. You on the other hand, I believe to be a paranoid and ignorant individual and the citizens should be on heightened alert from those who think as you do.

Without resorting to meaningless rhetoric and conservative talking points, please do tell us what rights President Obama has taken from us or how he has threatened the Constitution.

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Old 04-10-2012   #6 (permalink)
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Well it's all in the article, did you read the article? Obama signs those acts.
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Old 04-10-2012   #7 (permalink)
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Well it's all in the article, did you read the article? Obama signs those acts.
You do need help, you know.

Neither SOPA nor CISPA have been signed by President Obama. Furthermore both were sponsored by Republicans.

A Republican also sponsored the Fedeal restricted buildings and grounds act, was bipartisan and overwhelmingly passed by Congress. It also only modifies existing laws.

Finally, NDAA is a defense spending authorization act that passed congress with 93%the approval from Democrats and Republicans. As with many security laws there is always a question of limitations on citizen freeedoms but predecessors of this law have been around for some time and any variations in this incarnation didn't raise the ire of Republicans.

The long and the short of it is that all of these bill would be before a Republican President and would have been signed or would be as likely to be signed were tbat the case.

It's your personal hatred and distrust of this President that is causing your irrational fear. That's your issue and you should really look into it.

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Old 04-10-2012   #8 (permalink)
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My opinion on this bullshit business propaganda is to say "hickboy!"

“Listen to the American public and to the law enforcement community and support a ban on the further manufacture of military-style assault weapons.” -Ronald Reagan.



The NRA is simply the biggest for profit terrorist group this side of Kandahar.
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Old 04-10-2012   #9 (permalink)
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well thats interesting The UK government just proposed a law to make all internet providers hold details of all intenet communication for a year, so they can come along and demand it if they fancy. In this country the excuse is terrorism. Anyone fancy the government recording their postings here? Man from the government coming round to discuss your porn habits with your nearest and dearest?
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Old 04-10-2012   #10 (permalink)
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In the state of Maryland (go Terps!) there is something one must take (and pass) in 10th grade called the "Citizenship Test"; said test is a requirement to obtain a high school diploma in the great commonwealth of Maryland, and failing it results in multiple do-overs until a passing grade is achieved. That's right--Maryland actually forces its residents to learn about the structure and function of our state and Federal government. But, I digress...well, maybe not.

I have known how the 3 branches of our government work since I was in middle school--thus, I know that "blame the President" as a pat answer for every, single governmental issue and/or problem is not feasible--and is also false. Although some have tried to circumvent it in the past, there is a little thing called checks and balances in our system that prevents one branch of our government from having absolute power--including the POTUS. In other words: the article was full of untruths and assumptions.

Stereotypes and non sequiturs are the attempt of a fearful, uneducated and/or hateful mind to justify an unjustifiable argument. After all, why make sense when you can just make hate? Why extend an olive branch when extending a machete in a swift motion is so much for effective? Why do any actual research and edify yourself on an issue when you can just be full of noise and command--or someone else's noise and command ?

How can something that is so wrong feel so damned right...?
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Old 04-10-2012   #11 (permalink)
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well thats interesting The UK government just proposed a law to make all internet providers hold details of all intenet communication for a year, so they can come along and demand it if they fancy. In this country the excuse is terrorism. Anyone fancy the government recording their postings here? Man from the government coming round to discuss your porn habits with your nearest and dearest?
Dandelion--do you think the UK law proposal had anything to do with ol' Rupert? A trail of internet detective work helped get his tush in a sling, so perhaps they're trying to head similar incidents off at the pass?

How can something that is so wrong feel so damned right...?
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Old 04-10-2012   #12 (permalink)
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It is rather ironic that Rupert is currently in trouble for reading everyone elses messages but the government is seeking powers to expand its ability to do so. I say one rule for everyone.

I dont think the technology is quite there yet, but we are heading towards automatic recording of every message ever sent. So retrospectively the government will be able to come back at you over everything you ever said. The internet has led to considerable personal freedom but authorities are working hard to take it away again.

Saying that, it may be the way to go is full disclosure and scrap all the privacy rules. That way we all get to know what the government is keeping secret about us.
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Old 04-10-2012   #13 (permalink)
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It is rather ironic that Rupert is currently in trouble for reading everyone elses messages but the government is seeking powers to expand its ability to do so. I say one rule for everyone.

I dont think the technology is quite there yet, but we are heading towards automatic recording of every message ever sent. So retrospectively the government will be able to come back at you over everything you ever said. The internet has led to considerable personal freedom but authorities are working hard to take it away again.

Saying that, it may be the way to go is full disclosure and scrap all the privacy rules. That way we all get to know what the government is keeping secret about us.
Thanks to the patriot act we already can record every digital transmission and phone call in the US.

“Listen to the American public and to the law enforcement community and support a ban on the further manufacture of military-style assault weapons.” -Ronald Reagan.



The NRA is simply the biggest for profit terrorist group this side of Kandahar.
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Old 04-10-2012   #14 (permalink)
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Ah, but at the moment the technology does not allow literally every transmission to be recorded, only select highlights. It will. Theyre even planning to force the telecoms companies to do it for them. At an estimated cost in the Uk of £2bn for the limited service so far. Of course we will pay for the privilege of being bugged..

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Old 04-12-2012   #15 (permalink)
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My opinion on this bullshit business propaganda is to say "hickboy!"
Best fucking post!

You're all dismissed.
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