She doesn't believe in sex before marriage.

she deserves better than you.

if ya really care, and are not deluding yaself with a gloss coat of "i really could care about her" when ya only real interest is a possible ego-conquest, leave her be.

there is no glory in tearing the wings off butterflies.

eta: is not a personal dig on the OP. everyone finds a person that's just too damn good for 'em. i have one. love this women to death.. enough to not hurt her. enough to not be stumbling block in her life. i stepped aside. bowed out gracefully.

if the idea of anything bad happening to her enrages you.. don't be something bad that happens to her. ya ain't willing to do that. you don't really care. you just wanna chance to "break" her morals. so you get to feel special.

eta2: "...the right charming asshole who'll get them[her] to spread em--the panties and the morals come off."

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he was saying that they'd hold out till they found a guy that is 'charming' meaning be seduced hun

congrats on being as right as i am :)
and this.
and being seduced means him convincing her he is the right guy. hun.

love is a lie

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I sense alot of hate for charming assholes

*flees thread*

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I'm afraid I have to agree.....sad in that it "seems" so right. The quicker the better for both of you!

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Well, you should be honest with her how you feel. Don't marry THAT gurl. (AND DEFINATELY DO NOT "MAKE LOVE" TO HER because you don't LOVE her in that MARRY love way.) And you probably should get over the notion of wanting to be with her because you don't want to marry her. That is the honest thing that you can do.

I agree with mandoman, you should decide what's more important your personal reasons as to why you can't marry her, or the way she makes you feel. To me, it sounds like love and you can't help who you fall in love with.

and all the church said, "Amen!"

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leave her alone and don't F with her anymore than you probably already have....

founder of the group - straight phone/skype pussy lickers

Join!!!!

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Venting is fine. You know what you need to do. You can't make love to her -- just keep it platonic, for serious. Otherwise lines get blurred. Do you really think you can skate by?

being deeply loved by someone gives you strength
loving someone deeply gives you courage

I was in a similar situation a long long time ago. You may not be the guy she needs and wants now but there's always tomorrow.

Typical miscers…

I would agree with MickyLee--"she deserves better than you."

Twenty-eight years ago I married my wife—I was her first. At 5’8”, with a pretty face and curves like Rachael Welch, she was (and is) dazzling—but her real beauty comes from inside, exclusively from being a (conservative/practicing) Christian.

As for my wife, she deserved better than me. Before I met her I was somewhat of a girl toy, mostly for slightly older, more experienced woman. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed every minute…at least so I thought—but I wonder where I’d be today if I had not chosen to be with Her exclusively “til death”.

It looks like you have a decision to make. I don’t regret mine… will you regret yours?
Regards.

that's so frickin' sweet.

love is a lie

Whether it's sweet or not, I really don't know. What I do know is that when I was in my twenties I was fortunate enough to have a choice similar to MISCER's, and I made a choice, and I'm a better man for it.

MISCER, if you mean what you said, and I couldn't have said it better, seems like the choice will be an easy one.