SCOTUS upholds the Healthcare Act!

Your compassion for the poor is so evident . Perpetuating that stereotype doesn't help matters.

Working Poor: Almost Half Of U.S. Households Live One Crisis From The Bread Line

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When in doubt, drunk dance!

"One of the most common mistakes made by those who have a heart is to assume that the only appropriate giving is downward, i.e. to the poor . . .The most powerful giving for wealth building is upward giving. . . Money is not evil, nor does it make people evil. Money magnifies the character of an individual. It gives you more opportunity to be who you really are. [God] has nothing against money, in fact he values it" - EW Jackson, GOP Lt. Gov nominee.

Compassion yes, but its not the job of the government. Even though thru many progressive programs over the past century it has. Government has taken place of charity and self reliance. The "hand-up" program has become the hand-out program.


And yet instead of debating the point you attack my character. You have no idea just how much I donate or volunteer.

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Well, regardless of how anyone feels about the ruling, what else should we call it? Considering the CJ Supreme Court called it a tax, and it will feature tax increases, i'm inclined to side with calling it a tax

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ACA says that 80% of the money you pay your health insurance company has to be spent on your healthcare and 20% can be used at thier discression. The excess of the 80% that is not used on your care must either be paid back to you or you recieve a discount on your next premium.

The tea baggers, and conservatives in general, maybe be up in arms about this now, but as soon as the first one gets their rebate or sees their discount you will see a change in the mood. I don't care how good you are at "spin". Having extra money tends to make people not so grumpy.

The main thing that this health care bill does is to establish a bare minimum skeleton that can be built on. What is there right now is not workable and the care provided will be marginal, but it opens the door. One of the reasons that the GOP was completely nuts over this was that the structure of this bill will over time and the Supreme Court Ruling it as a "Tax" allows it to be modified directly into what some refer to as "Socialized Medicine". The powers can transfer this over to a flat payroll tax and make arrangements for those out of the loop based on age or unemployment in some form.

The legal precedent set here and the ruling calling it a "tax" opens more doors legally than I can believe. Yes it will all be challenged, but, for SCOTUS this ruling was a mindblower. I did expect it to stand, but if it had stood without the "tax" ruling there were other places where it could have been challenged. I don't even think Barak realized the gift he was given by SCOTUS on this one yet.

If absolutely everyone in the US had said identification, then the voter ID laws wouldn't mean anything to anyone but those who were not legal, but that isn't the case. Many of the poor don't drive because they can't afford a car, so do not have a lisence for that, and many of them (if they smoke or drink) simply give their money to a friend who does have said identification to pick up what they want. I know, some of my friends have had me do this for them.

The question is actually this: If some people in America are not going to have said identifications, then which groups are most likely to be affected? The poor and the young, both of which are groups that disportionately vote Democrat. On top of that, the problem they claim is "rampant" (voter fraud) is fairly nonexistent, and there are organizations in place to help combat it. It's hard to view this as anything less than an attempt to disenfranchise their political opposition's supporters.

For some reason a "third-world" country like Mexico can get their remote poor in their country ID's, so they can vote in Mexico's elections. Is Mexico racist or are they just playing class warfare?

Our country is pretty remote compared to most others in this world. And a majority of the poor that live in the country or rural areas do drive. I can understand living in an urban area and nor having a car, and hence no drivers lisence. But if you can get to the store, you can get to a government facility to get an ID. And you are right if everyone needed to show ID to vote, even same day registration voting, this would be a none issue.

Hey, why don't we just tattoo everybody with a barcode or implant a RFID chip, that way you won't have to carry an ID! This is a joke, but I wouldn't doubt this happening in the near future.

If voter fraud doesn't exist, then why won't the federal government let Florida purge their voter registration lists of people who have died or of known none citizens?

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Because that is not what Florida is doing:
The Miami Herald uncovered the fact that 58 percent of the people on the initial list sent out to supervisors to be scrubbed off the voting rolls were Hispanic, even though they represent just 13 percent of the voting population. According to the paper's analysis, in addition to Hispanics, Democratic and independent voters were more likely to be on the list.

Hispanics, NPAs more likely to face noncitizen voter purge than whites, GOP - Florida - MiamiHerald.com

Only 41 registered voters residing in 13 counties–this is out of the 2,625 names flagged by the Florida SOS as “potential noncitizens”–were removed from the rolls. In other words, 98.4% of the 2,625 people identified by the Florida SOS as “potential noncitizens” remain on the rolls because the Supervisors of Elections found insufficient evidence that they were ineligible to be registered voters.
The Failed Florida Secretary of State’s Voter Purge EXCLUSIVE

Presidents place their hand on the Bible and swear to uphold the Constitution. They don't put their hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible.

What does their race have to do with it? It doesn't matter what color their skin is, if they are non-citizens......illegal immigrants or don't take the time to immigrant into this country properly or here temporarily on a "green card"....why would you want them to vote in our elections?

So remove potential non-citizens........wouldn't having to provide an ID to prove your citizenship at the time of voting....make this whole issue null and void?

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"potential" noncitizens?

We are all potential noncitizens..........prove you are a citizen.

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Why ? If you are here and want to vote, I say vote.
the more the merrier!

Lets eradicate corps and churches political power first, then we can go after the 109 immigrants and 3 dead guys that voted illegally.

if voter id couldn't have stopped bushes coup d'état , then whats the point?

So you are ok, if a bunch of conservatives from Texas just showed up in your NorCal community the day of the vote and wanted to vote, you'd be ok with that?

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Im more ok with that than big tobbacco killing an anti smoking prop cause they have more money than god and the church spending billions to hide pedophiles.

That is sad.


The other side of your argument is the union lobbists that prevent corporations from opening factories in right to work states.