07-11-2012
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So basically anyone who downloads or shares whether its from Vuze Utorrent etc is held accountable for that and their ips are traced and kept in a safe place until they call you to court?
I am trying to better understand this so please bare with me.I know its not legal persay but nowadays its hard to afford much of anything and these sheisters are just basically ripping people off intentionally nowadays.
Most people download free because they can not afford it its very difficult to obtain and lastly but most importantly why put money into businesses that intentionally rip their customers off to begin with? Plenty of these sites do that especially nowadays its all about the all might dollar.Nothing comes free in this world even what we download has a price at times whether that be trojans viruses malware spyware hackers etc...
I was just about ready to download one single torrent of Tyler from Corbin Fisher but having to pay a 1,000$ when I and my family are not rich and have been through enough after my father died last year is truly not worth it.
Its ridiculous that they can spy on people like that too and wrong. So if they think torrenting is wrong then it amazes me that they dont see that what they are doing is actually no better in that regard.
Its also appalling that they have even gone so far to plant random people on sites like this in order to coax people to download FREE corbin fisher videos just so they can catch people and have them go to court.
Maybe just maybe if they did not expect so much money actually give a damn about their customers and not rip them off people would not do this as often as they do.Ive torrented many things but ive always been careful but in this regard there is no possible way for me to do hiding an IP address is illegal so thats out of the question and if I do download this one just 1 single torrent of Tyler... they will trap me down and I will have to pay the price for that action.Quite frankly shady underhanded greedy businesses like Corbin Fisher are truly not worth the time to begin with.If thats how they run a business and treat their fans ( why do you think people torrent from your site because they like the videos enjoy them cant afford them unfortunately and are fans of the site to begin with duh) then to hell with them and businesses like them period.
I understand if people do not agree with my sentiment please feel free to disagree thats what a civil discourse is where people can still agree with one another in a civil equally respectful way. |
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07-11-2012
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Am I the only person who's not a fan of downloading?
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07-11-2012
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Originally Posted by kennethmarkzamora Am I the only person who's not a fan of downloading? |
You dont have to be but in the same right people shouldnt act self righteous in that regard either. 30 bucks a month for a porn site where any other site can do it better then they can is basically highway robbery.
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07-11-2012
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So, if I understand the OP's correctly the question is: can I have use of a company's product without paying for it by using a torrent even though I know it is illegal?
Your reply indicates that you know the answer... the valid owner of the property does not want to have its property stolen/used without receiving compensation for his efforts in producing it. There may be ways to steal it without detection, as there ways to illegally acquire nearly anything in this world.
That said, I am perplexed by your ranting. With all of the free porn available, why do you want this particular work by Corbin Fisher? Is it because of the quality of the product? Because of the exclusivity of the models? Whatever your reason, clearly you place a value on this specific item, enough of a value to risk detection and possible prosecution. So, you don't want to pay for it... but you want it badly enough to ask how to get it without paying money or getting caught. Doesn't that in itself indicate it has value?
As to your allegations that it is "ridiculous" and "appalling" that they are using methods to protect their intellectual property- do you not understand that this is a business? If I make shoes with my business and you acquire them through theft, how is that different than what Corbin Fisher is doing? They are creating a product that you value. You can choose to buy it or not. If you don't value it, then you don't buy it. It is that simple. If you steal it, then the owner has the ability to seek legal remedy. If you don't like the value then don't buy, or get another product that you think is a better value.
With all of the free porn out there, companies like Corbin Fisher would disappear if they weren't producing something that people value enough to purchase. Without knowing for sure, I'm sure that what they do is not inexpensive... they employ people and have equipment and facilities, etc.
"Quite frankly shady underhanded greedy businesses like Corbin Fisher are truly not worth the time to begin with.If thats how they run a business and treat their fans ( why do you think people torrent from your site because they like the videos enjoy them cant afford them unfortunately and are fans of the site to begin with duh) then to hell with them and businesses like them period."
Why are they underhanded? shady? Why do people do business with them if they are mistreat their fans? If they are "not worth the time to begin with" why are you trying to acquire their product?
Your allegations simply do not square with the facts.
A disclaimer: I have no affiliation with Corbin Fisher or any other video site: I don't subscribe to any site and have not seen anything produced by Corbin Fisher: I just know they have a good reputation and seem to have a quality product and more than a few fans.
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07-11-2012
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Originally Posted by kepper So, if I understand the OP's correctly the question is: can I have use of a company's product without paying for it by using a torrent even though I know it is illegal?
Your reply indicates that you know the answer... the valid owner of the property does not want to have its property stolen/used without receiving compensation for his efforts in producing it. There may be ways to steal it without detection, as there ways to illegally acquire nearly anything in this world.
That said, I am perplexed by your ranting. With all of the free porn available, why do you want this particular work by Corbin Fisher? Is it because of the quality of the product? Because of the exclusivity of the models? Whatever your reason, clearly you place a value on this specific item, enough of a value to risk detection and possible prosecution. So, you don't want to pay for it... but you want it badly enough to ask how to get it without paying money or getting caught. Doesn't that in itself indicate it has value?
As to your allegations that it is "ridiculous" and "appalling" that they are using methods to protect their intellectual property- do you not understand that this is a business? If I make shoes with my business and you acquire them through theft, how is that different than what Corbin Fisher is doing? They are creating a product that you value. You can choose to buy it or not. If you don't value it, then you don't buy it. It is that simple. If you steal it, then the owner has the ability to seek legal remedy. If you don't like the value then don't buy, or get another product that you think is a better value.
With all of the free porn out there, companies like Corbin Fisher would disappear if they weren't producing something that people value enough to purchase. Without knowing for sure, I'm sure that what they do is not inexpensive... they employ people and have equipment and facilities, etc.
"Quite frankly shady underhanded greedy businesses like Corbin Fisher are truly not worth the time to begin with.If thats how they run a business and treat their fans ( why do you think people torrent from your site because they like the videos enjoy them cant afford them unfortunately and are fans of the site to begin with duh) then to hell with them and businesses like them period."
Why are they underhanded? shady? Why do people do business with them if they are mistreat their fans? If they are "not worth the time to begin with" why are you trying to acquire their product?
Your allegations simply do not square with the facts.
A disclaimer: I have no affiliation with Corbin Fisher or any other video site: I don't subscribe to any site and have not seen anything produced by Corbin Fisher: I just know they have a good reputation and seem to have a quality product and more than a few fans. |
Your arrogance and rudeness is appalling but I will unfortunately address your self righteous commentary.
You are trying to snub your nose up to me because I am not rich nor can afford much yet you can so you say hey its as easy as 1 2 3?
WRONG ever heard of credit card fraud? Ever heard of people being tricked and ripped off even by sites like Corbin Fisher? I bet you havent.Whilst I understand your point people like you do not help your arguments by flooding over to a post claiming someone is RANTING talk about childish and juvenile on your part period.
I was merely being honest with how I feel about the situation not ranting just being honest and direct and if thats a problem for you then there is a very simple solution do not read this thread and do not respond.Honestly the lack of civility and ability to respect differing points of view of some people nowadays is truly disgraceful.
Forgive me for having a different opinion then you have I didnt realize I was supposed to think the same way you do my bad.
Its also easy for you to say they have a good reputation yet over the years even before this torrent issue many people have complained about how they treat their customers. Your comment is what is called biased period. But I ty for your response as haughty and uncalled for as it was.Apparently you do not grasp the simple concept of a civil disagreement unless you call claiming someone is ranting when they are simply expressing their own opinion CIVIL. |
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07-11-2012
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I'm loathe to weigh in here, given the lengthy intercourse the OP and I had in another thread. It does reassure me, however, that his reaction to me wasn't just because of me. Here, he uses the same sort of passive aggressive rhetoric.
Now, to the point you/OP raised: no one forces you to subscribe to CF. They own their content. If you "steal" it by downloading it without permission, you run a legal risk. You seem to get all of that. So what is your question?
Your personal situation is compelling, But how does it lead you to think, as your post suggests, that it entitles you to download stuff without paying for it? I don't get that. It seems to me, if you don't want to pay for it, just do without.
You seem to understand the risks here. So act accordingly.
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07-11-2012
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Originally Posted by tarheel6 I'm loathe to weigh in here, given the lengthy intercourse the OP and I had in another thread. It does reassure me, however, that his reaction to me wasn't just because of me. Quote: |
Here, he uses the same sort of passive aggressive rhetoric
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Now, to the point you/OP raised: no one forces you to subscribe to CF. They own their content. If you "steal" it by downloading it without permission, you run a legal risk. You seem to get all of that. So what is your question?
Your personal situation is compelling, Quote: |
But how does it lead you to think, as your post suggests, that it entitles you to download stuff without paying for it? I don't get that. It seems to me, if you don't want to pay for it, just do without.
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Some random stranger I met days ago thinks he has me pegged? I think not and quite frankly the arrogance around this site and the inability to respect differing opinions is trite and infantile to say the least.Whatever I am done with this thread I regret even posting this now Ill probably delete it soon.
I never said it was right and as I said I am done with this conversation I asked a question last year on amazon and the same thing happened either arrogant people responding belittling what I had to say or lashing out at me or putting me down due to my differing opinion on the subject.If people were raised better in this day and age they would be capable of not only humility but also compassion understanding and CLASS.
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07-12-2012
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Originally Posted by avalonlovelove Some random stranger I met days ago thinks he has me pegged? I think not and quite frankly the arrogance around this site and the inability to respect differing opinions is trite and infantile to say the least.Whatever I am done with this thread I regret even posting this now Ill probably delete it soon.
I never said it was right and as I said I am done with this conversation I asked a question last year on amazon and the same thing happened either arrogant people responding belittling what I had to say or lashing out at me or putting me down due to my differing opinion on the subject.If people were raised better in this day and age they would be capable of not only humility but also compassion understanding and CLASS. |
You get the same/similar reactions here and on other sites, yet you blame the "arrogance" of other posters and take no responsibility for the tone of your own comments. You deploy words well, but cast blame and aspersions so easily. It may be trite, but it's also true, that you can't control other people, but you can control your attitude and your reactions. In the long run, if you'd train some of your analytical skills on yourself you will make some hay. You are correct that I don't "know" you. I just read what you write. It suggests you are clever, entitled in your own mind, and young. I hope that last part is correct, because it offers the possibility that you will mature over time.
I mean you no ill will. But you should ask yourself why you keep getting the "arrogant" reactions you cite. You can grow and benefit from that sort of self-reflection.
None of this is all that serious, however. So why lash out the way that you do?
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07-12-2012
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Originally Posted by tarheel6 You get the same/similar reactions here and on other sites, yet you blame the "arrogance" of other posters and take no responsibility for the tone of your own comments. You deploy words well, but cast blame and aspersions so easily. It may be trite, but it's also true, that you can't control other people, but you can control your attitude and your reactions. In the long run, if you'd train some of your analytical skills on yourself you will make some hay. You are correct that I don't "know" you. I just read what you write. It suggests you are clever, entitled in your own mind, and young. I hope that last part is correct, because it offers the possibility that you will mature over time.
I mean you no ill will. But you should ask yourself why you keep getting the "arrogant" reactions you cite. You can grow and benefit from that sort of self-reflection.
None of this is all that serious, however. So why lash out the way that you do? |
Unbelievable so I am not supposed to react and respond to negativity WITH negativity? So someone can come into this thread snub their nose up as if they are above it all and I am beneath them because I torrent at times and they can claim I am RANTING when I am merely expressing my opinion?I think not and I have no reason to ask myself anything of the such considering this has happened many times and most of the time I am nothing but civil polite and patient.When someone intentionally comes over to some random thread throw and childishly claims someone is ranting for simply expressing their honest feelings that is rude uncalled for and ridiculous.
Sorry thats just how I was raised my parents taught me the value of respect I just have no patience for rudeness arrogance or haughtiness period. I wish you no ill will either I just do not appreciate this kind of behavior or attitude I have never in my life acted entitled either no idea where you got that from. But I am loathe to thank half of you at least for being able to at least half way have a civil discourse regarding this subject.God knows ( said as an atheist) this subject is indeed controversial and does get heated between people ive seen it happen many times and not just involving myself either.
I respect your opinion tarheel I just do not agree with the way in which many come across here especially those who point the finger at someone else and are not capable of taking responsibility for THEIR actions as human beings. No one is PERFECT.We're all faulty in some way or another so if I have a problem with keeping my cool or patience there are plenty more out there just like myself in that regard.
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07-12-2012
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Let me try this once more. Take a deep breath, train some or your brain power on yourself rather than outward.
Please don't react too quickly or too strongly, but re-read what you wrote. You come across as a prick, and you say it's because of how your parents raised you? Okay, you are clever and play with words well, but this lashing out is nasty. Don't drag your parents, your status in life, etc, into that. Learn to behave. Grow up.
Okay. Enough. I hope your life is more rewarding than these posts suggest. I really do see a smart/gifted mind in some of what you say. I just find it difficult to wade through the seemingly reflexive venom that you spew. As I said, I assume and hope it's a function of youth and that you will outgrow. And that's what I'm trying to encourage you to do.
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07-12-2012
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Oh, and by the way, you perceive rudeness and disrespect way too easily. If you react with a bit more respect and restraint, you'll receive that in kind.
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07-12-2012
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Originally Posted by tarheel6 Oh, and by the way, you perceive rudeness and disrespect way too easily. If you react with a bit more respect and restraint, you'll receive that in kind. |
Funny how hypocritical your comment is considering you just referred to me as a prick.I am not the one who needs to grow up fyi I am 30 years old trust me I am plenty grown up.Please save your psychoanalyzing for someone who needs it I truly do not but ty for the effort nonetheless.
Have a nice day and once again I have no reason to focus on anything here you are claiming I am trying to twist stuff lie and try to make everything look all nicey nicey through my bullshit and yes thats exactly how you perceive my actions behavior and the way in which I respond to rudeness.
But that is YOUR perception of things people see things differently so if thats what you perceive about me then that is not my problem that is quite frankly yours.It takes a lot of nerve for someone to not only come in here acting like some pathetic 2 year old calling my post RANTING but then for someone to refer to me as a prick for being honest and direct and not taking other peoples hypocrisy and bullshit is even more ridiculous and hypocritical.
Concentrate on your own flaws I have many... at least im one of few who can admit to them though unlike some people especially within the gay community.
My father also died last year granted you did not know that but do not disrespect my parents in that way I have no tolerance for that kind of idiocy or infantile behavior period. I certainly did not show any disrespect towards yours so show me the same respect if you are capable of that that is. Quote: |
I understand if people do not agree with my sentiment please feel free to disagree thats what a is where people can still agree with one another in a civil equally respectful way
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Some people truly need to learn how to read hint hint above. ^^^
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07-12-2012
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Are you saying that stealing is justified because you can't afford the product?
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07-12-2012
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Originally Posted by Rob_E Are you saying that stealing is justified because you can't afford the product? |
Another one trying to put words into my mouth who is ultimately failing miserably.
Did I once say I justified it? No I think not I simply said some people torrent because part of it is half this country is not rich people intentionally keep forgetting about the economy also and my family has struggled through that along with many others.My entire point that was COMPLETELY LOST ON EVERYONE WHO POSTED HERE (  ) was its ridiculous that these sites charge people an arm and a leg and its also funny and priceless to me that so many self righteous people have posted here trying to belittle me for torrenting.
Yet watching FREE porn online or videos from other sites like corbin fisher on sites like itsallgay myvidster xvideos is also not LEGAL so I would love for anyone to explain the difference there? Plenty of people download videos from other sites and the companies are nonethewiser for the most part.
So how exactly is that NOT ripping the companies off yet torrenting IS? You cant have things one way it works both ways in that regard so no one here has any right to act self righteous or above it all in that area.Even if you dont torrent you are still watching porn on other sites that the companies do not know about.... thats no different no matter how you want to create this innocent pristine hypocritical bubble in that area.
I give proof of how shady companies like Corbin Fisher are .
If anyone thinks this is a decent thing to do please say so.I do not see how anyone could possibly find any justification for actions like this especially when it is not your fault to begin with . http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...RbmvV3hibTWQKw
So basically if your account is hacked unknowingly you are the one punished and held accountable.If this is fair ethical business practices then Im the queen of england period.
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07-12-2012
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So your point is that stealing is justified because the site charges too much money?
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