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Old 04-16-2012   #77 (permalink)
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Got to say I am pro-life, abortion should only be used when there is a danger to the life of the mother, tests show the unborn child will not make it full turm or as a result of a rape etc. if you don't want to get pregnant then don't have sex, if you consider yourself mature to engage in sex, then you should be mature enough to cope with the outcome - loads of people want to adopt, what really is the issue with carrying another life for 9 months then handing it over to be raised by a loving family? Which is more damaging to the mother? The act of abortion or giving the baby up for adoption?
If you feel mothers should be obliged by law to carry babies to full term, are you willing to pay them the financial costs of being pregnant and for any consequent costs? (getting sacked, failing exams, for example. That could be a life-long cost.)

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Never said I was pro-choice I am pro-life, and as a man who helped father the child, who is willing to look after and bring up the child don't I get a say?
oh. you mean you have a right to insist some woman who does not want to bears your children, provided you get her drunk and she just agrees to have sex with you?

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people are very quick to chase after the father for money when the child is born, it's a double standard, my body, my child my choice, but if I decide to have it then you got to help pay it, double standards,
This is not a simple problem with a simple answer. At one extreme, a couple have children, live together for years and then get divorced. I'd say both parents have rights to have time with the children and both should be paying. But even if this case maybe one or other parent is a child murderer so shouldnt get acces.

At another extreme two drunk people at a club have sex and never see each other again. The woman has a child. Someone traces the father. I do not hold he should be liable for maintenance. It is true the mother has the harder problem in deciding what to do about the pregnancy, but that is the tough break which comes with being female. The tough break with being male is that you cannot have a child if you choose. The responsible thing for the mother to do is decided whether she will have the child, decide on morning after contraception, or abortion, or giving birth. Or keeping the child and facing the cost.

[/quote]and what gives anybody the right to end an innocent life? Like I said pro life not pro choice![/QUOTE]I dont know. Ask the president who sends soldiers off to fight for nothing. 'innocent' is a loaded term used by people who want to win an argument by moral blackmail.
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