Sometimes a man must rise to defend another man of good character.
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Originally Posted by Italian978  Maybe you're the troll. I guess if you disagree with someone the old "troll" word appears. Do you miss that pic? My wife is fine with it and I have nothing to be ashamed of. |
Yet you took it down. Your actions betray your words.
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Originally Posted by Italian978 You seem to have a problem with people who practice safe sex and are monogamous. |
He never said that. You are drawing yet another incorrect conclusion by claiming facts not in evidence. Either you're stupid or liar.
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Originally Posted by Italian978 I checked out your post history, and it appears that you have many things to be ashamed of, but nobody really uses the word shame anymore. They should just scratch that word from the dictionary. |
They do use it. In fact I am using it now to describe you:
You are the single most shameful person I have yet to encounter in this forum and one of the most reprehensible people I have ever come in contact with and that includes a convicted murderer.
Perhaps you don't see it? Perhaps you truly are so naive and uneducated to not understand anything other than the venomous righteous indignation you so freely spew. Let me, for once, clue you in to a few things:
Let's see:
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Originally Posted by Italian978 You don't like gay culture but you're heavily involved in it. |
Those within a culture act to adapt to it and use their force of action as a vehicle for change. One can freely live within a culture yet not like it.
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Originally Posted by Italian978 You're into bi curious guys. |
There is no shame in liking bisexual men. They are, after all, bisexual. Or perhaps you think he's recruiting? Gays do that right? They all meet in secret at Barbra Streisand concerts and hand out recruitment material. I know it's true because I've been there. In fact the tobacco shop in my town recently closed and became a gay recruitment center.
You show your face on here and post stuff like this:
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Originally Posted by Italian978 You got invited to an orgy. |
So? He didn't go but even if he had, what business is it of yours?
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Originally Posted by Italian978 You're into glory holes. |
This is shameful why? Guys stick their dicks through holes and other guys suck it. Sounds like consensual adult sex to me. You don't have a problem with that, remember? You said you didn't.
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Originally Posted by Italian978 You sold yourself. |
See, this is why actually reading posts is good. Read the post.
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Originally Posted by Italian978 You're everything that's wrong about gay men, and why people don't want to accept them and give them rights and marriage. Do you think any of that looks good? |
Why do you think anyone cares if you think it looks good? You are not our self-appointed keeper, you are not our father, you are not our minister, you are not even a reasoning individual. Gays and other groups you don't approve of do not submit their behavior for your acceptance. Nobody cares if you approve or not. Get over yourself.
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Originally Posted by Italian978 Of course it doesn't. It's stereotypical 20th century crap that gays need to forget about. I was in a straight/gay forum a few years ago, and just about everything mentioned above and more is what had all these young gay guys concerned and depressed. They thought being gay was all about hooking up in parks, restrooms, glory holes, orgies, and fearing STD's and HIV. They didn't have a clue that you could be gay and actually be in a monogamous, loving relationship. You and some others on here should be ashamed of yourselves for not trying to help young gay men get out of that stereotype instead of reinforcing it. |
If they thought that then it was people like YOU who put those ideas into their heads. Those poor kids. My heart goes out to them. You likely have no clue what you did to them.
You and people like you are the ones forcing them into the parks and restrooms.
You are forcing them to fear for their lives by venting your homophobic hatred out into the world, reinforcing fear with more fear. You're a one man Ministry of Fear, out to evangelize the world by using sedition, shame, egomania, and moral opprobrium born of the vapid and uneducated who do not understand anything outside the four walls of your twisted corner of society that cares so very, very, much about what gays do when they have sex.
The cancer of your Ministry of Fear manifests itself through any outlet available. It walks the hallways of schools, preaches from the pulpits of churches, oozes from the pages of propagandist literature that dishonestly poses itself as independent or even pro-gay, walks the back alleys with thugs looking to descend on anyone who might even look gay, pontificates from the lecterns in schools, speaks through the taunting gangs of kids ostracizing and mercilessly teasing the gay kids, and wracks the minds of parents who lock their own children out of their lives leaving them on the street.
You dress your hypocrisy in the robes of care and concern about the spread of HIV, appealing to a moral point of view with the ignorant assumption that if it's good for you then it must be good for everyone else. Twisted as that is, it is not your true agenda. You have proven your own Judas. Nowhere in any of these posts did Earl promote unsafe sex or repudiate monogamy. Never, in any post, has he told anyone to have sex of any sort without a condom. Never, in any post, has he told anyone that monogamy is wrong or ungay.
The only person who said these things was YOU Italian978. So either you have libeled Earl or you are just that stupid.
And you know what? You did the first. Earl, and the other gay and bisexual men and women on this board are threat to you. They get to have what you cannot bring yourself to have and that is freedom. You have forged more chains for yourself than Marley's ghost and now those chains are chafing at your skin. The brain that sits inside your skull has been brainwashed to fear what you do not understand but find remarkably seductive. For somehow you cannot help but pretend to think you understand what being gay is about and what it feels like. You spend countless hours worrying about something people do that is none of your business and that is more than just a little strange, it's pathological. That pathology will continue to consume you bit by bit because it can never be satisfied. Eventually you will break because the weight of the guilt will be unbearable and then where will you be?
You'll be at the mercy of the very Ministry of Fear you created because you, Italian978, are gay. Ask any of the gay men on this board and you'll get the same answer. We've seen it before and we'll see it again. Self-loathing that goes so deep that it involves not only controlling your own behavior but those of everyone else. Only by denying other gays what you deny yourself can you sleep easy at night because if you can't have it then neither can they. We know where this leads too. The irony is the only people who can help you get out of it are gays themselves. Given your vitriolic history, I wouldn't expect a helping hand to reach out to you when that time of crisis comes.
Except, perhaps, and even I admit this is a remote possibility, the hand of the man who you just spent quite a lot of time unfairly maligning in your post. We here at LPSG know Earl in ways you do not. Time and again he has put himself forward to help those who ask for it or seem to need it. He speaks with respect to other people here, he takes time to consider their thoughts and feelings, he will give you the benefit of the doubt. If you have read his posts, you'd realize he has gone through much conflict to release himself of the chains he was forging for himself. He is very intelligent, far more so than he'll admit and somewhere along the line he realized, as most educated and intelligent people do, that truth matters more than the moral fascism preached by you and your cohort of closeted homosexuals and others so insecure in their own sexuality and moral choices that they feel the need to inflict theirs on everyone else. Misery does love company! Even beyond that, Earl has compassion. Once again, read his posts. If your shit hits the fan, and it will at some point, don't be surprised if in that moment when contrition finally exposes to your soul what Hell you've created for yourself and others, that might Earl just be the guy to help you out.
Earl has what you do not: moral and intellectual freedom to be the man of his own creation and you show your hatred for him in daring to call him "shameful," naming him, "a troll," decrying him for, "showing his face," claiming, "he is everything wrong with gay men," as if Earl was the root of all of the horrors you imagine in your own bitter world. The sad truth is you envy him and every other gay and lesbian out in the world who have managed to free themselves from your moral Stalinist gulag, who live bravely and free of the guilt you desperately sow with every waking moment of your life.
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Originally Posted by Italian978 So we should just ignore everything here and tell gay guys to enjoy their glory holes, orgies, and bathhouses. It appears that I care, and if you want to call that an agenda, I'm fine with it. |
I answer with more eloquent words than my own. Hereafter, Marcus Aurelius:
A noble man compares and estimates himself by an idea which is higher than himself; and a mean man, by one lower than himself. The one produces aspiration; the other ambition, which is the way in which a vulgar man aspires.
Such as are your habitual thoughts, such also will be the character of your mind; for the soul is dyed by the thoughts.
My wife is fine with it and I have nothing to be ashamed of. You seem to have a problem with people who practice safe sex and are monogamous. I checked out your post history, and it appears that you have many things to be ashamed of, but nobody really uses the word shame anymore. They should just scratch that word from the dictionary. 
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