04-27-2012
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#3556 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by SirConcis  With regards to circumcision and AIDS. The styidies have shown that circumcision makes a huge differenece when HIV is acquired by males in vaginal sex.
The studies in other countries such as australia have shows that circumcision makes little difference in homosexual sex where HIV is more often acquired by anal tissues during anal sex.
There is no difference in transmission if the male is circumcised or not. But there is a difference in acquisition via vaginal se.
It so happens that africa's epidemic is i the heterosexual community where AIDS is transmitted via vaginal sex, so circumcised males really do have reduced odds of catching it.
You should not invalidate the advantages of african circumcision just because circumcion makes little difference in north america where aids is transmitted via drug needles or homosexual sex. | Circumcision does not prevent HIV or any other disease. Safe sex and good hygiene are what make the difference. I know you want to force your body modification preferences on males across the world, but you need to give it up. Circumcision is barbaric and wrong, regardless of gender.
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04-27-2012
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Originally Posted by Matt Cohen I grew up in the UK with a foreskin but decided to get myself circumcised when I was 16. I much prefer it. My penis is cleaner, it's more hygenic, | You just sound lazy.
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7.4"(18.8cm)nbpel x 6.5" (16.51cm)MSEG. 7.1" (18cm) Base girth.
Yep a thick uncut one!
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04-27-2012
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Originally Posted by someperson You just sound lazy. | Exactly. I just don't get the "cleaner" argument. Are there actually guys who think it's a burden to pull their foreskin back for a few seconds in the shower to rinse the glans off? How can that possibly be such a big deal? If I had a foreskin, I would think pealing it back in the shower would be fun, or at the very least feel ok...but certainly not a burden.
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04-27-2012
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Originally Posted by phallic intrigue If I had a foreskin, I would think pealing it back in the shower would be fun, or at the very least feel ok...but certainly not a burden. | Sometimes it leads to jerking off too.
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7.4"(18.8cm)nbpel x 6.5" (16.51cm)MSEG. 7.1" (18cm) Base girth.
Yep a thick uncut one!
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04-27-2012
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Originally Posted by phallic intrigue Exactly. I just don't get the "cleaner" argument. Are there actually guys who think it's a burden to pull their foreskin back for a few seconds in the shower to rinse the glans off? How can that possibly be such a big deal? If I had a foreskin, I would think pealing it back in the shower would be fun, or at the very least feel ok...but certainly not a burden. | Obviously it's a big deal. A lot of guys wipe their ass and storm right out the stall, out of the bathroom to shake your hand. Do ya think they care about cleaning their dick? |
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04-27-2012
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Originally Posted by sargon20 Obviously it's a big deal. A lot of guys wipe their ass and storm right out the stall, out of the bathroom to shake your hand. Do ya think they care about cleaning their dick? | I don't wash those guys hands for them. If I worry about my hands being clean, I wash my hands. If I think someone else's hands might be dirty, I can choose to not shake hands with them, or I can carry around hand sanitizer because I'm worried about me. I wouldn't, however, condone cutting those guys' hands off so I don't have to worry about getting shit on my hands.
Circumcision for the sake of cleanliness is ridiculous, personal habits are much, much more important to hygiene than any procedure.
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04-28-2012
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Strangely, the more I read from this thread, the more I get to appreciate the look-and-feel of cut dicks...which incidentally are still overwhelmingly the norm for guys here, yes, even in their 20s, yes, even on the West Coast.
I wonder why that is...
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04-28-2012
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Why what is? The "strangely", the "appreciate" or the "norm"?
There's about to be an earthquake in the US with regard to infant circ, with changes akin to Australia in the 70s/80s or Canada in the 80s/90s. And we're long overdue to go back to the normal way we were in this country.
The term "cut dick" doesn't sound normal to everyone, nor does "cut clit".
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04-28-2012
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Originally Posted by Domisoldo Strangely, the more I read from this thread, the more I get to appreciate the look-and-feel of cut dicks...which incidentally are still overwhelmingly the norm for guys here, yes, even in their 20s, yes, even on the West Coast.
I wonder why that is...
| Los Angeles has a higher uncut rate then most places. in the US
But I was born in East LA.
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7.4"(18.8cm)nbpel x 6.5" (16.51cm)MSEG. 7.1" (18cm) Base girth.
Yep a thick uncut one!
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04-28-2012
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Originally Posted by someperson Los Angeles has a higher uncut rate then most places. in the US
But I was born in East LA. | As you can imagine, I have little interest in little babies and such...although they're cute and all. My frame of reference is mostly young adult guys I have some interest in.
I am not disputing your numbers either. The Latino population in LA is considerable.
In West Hollywood, SF & Silicon Valley, Portland and Seattle where I work and play and see dozens of dicks a day while working out at various locations, cut is indeed the norm with at least second generation US guys (including young Asian Americans born here).
Finally, I am not advocating RIC for everyone. I would do it for my sons if I had any and I personally much prefer cut dicks, but I would 100% respect your choice as a parent not to have him/them cut.
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04-28-2012
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To the OP you are not the only one who likes being circumcised. I had myself circumcised as a middle aged adult. I wish I had been lucky enough to have been circumcised at birth. I saw a circumcised penis for the first time at about age 7 or 8 and thought it looked wonderful. I decided at that young age that my penis would someday look like that young mans penis. I wish I could have accomplished it sooner than I did. I would have liked to have spent my teen years circumcised. The cost was nearly $1000.00
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04-28-2012
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Originally Posted by Domisoldo Finally, I am not advocating RIC for everyone. I would do it for my sons if I had any and I personally much prefer cut dicks, but I would 100% respect your choice as a parent not to have him/them cut. | Except you're smart enough to know this is a cop-out when it's an ethical argument that relates to a third party. The point is that you are advocating RIC for someone. Even if it's your own kid (Jesus, man, especially if it's your own kid) it should matter whether it's ethical or not. This is not just "to each your own" because the problem is you're against giving someone else his "own." And although I've asked you like five times by now, you've never engaged this argument directly. You just keep coming into this thread and asserting how you keep getting your pre-existing opinions strengthened by it, but not explaining why. That's not respectful at all, and I don't understand why you keep doing it. :\
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04-28-2012
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Originally Posted by sargon20 Obviously it's a big deal. A lot of guys wipe their ass and storm right out the stall, out of the bathroom to shake your hand. Do ya think they care about cleaning their dick? | Do you think the guy you are describing, is clean, if he is circumcised?
I can line up plenty of women who will assure you he is not.
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04-28-2012
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Originally Posted by Domisoldo Strangely, the more I read from this thread, the more I get to appreciate the look-and-feel of cut dicks...which incidentally are still overwhelmingly the norm for guys here, yes, even in their 20s, yes, even on the West Coast.
I wonder why that is...
| A circumcised dick is not the 'norm' anywhere. If they were, we would be born that way.
Besides, with the circumcision rate dropping like a rock, soon, it won't be the 'norm' anywhere. Tell it to Nevada, whose circumcision rate was 20%, and dropping.
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04-28-2012
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Originally Posted by Domisoldo Finally, I am not advocating RIC for everyone. I would do it for my sons if I had any and I personally much prefer cut dicks, but I would 100% respect your choice as a parent not to have him/them cut.
| If you truly have respect for people's choices, then why don't you let your sons decide for themselves if they want to have an intact or cut penis?
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