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Black on White Racism in my area. Media dont say shit about it.

Originally Posted by datdude It was a back stage story and its on video. Did the news show it?No they did not. The kids a nerdy little 15 year old, who gets beat up and

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Old 10-28-2007   #46 (permalink)
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It was a back stage story and its on video. Did the news show it?No they did not. The kids a nerdy little 15 year old, who gets beat up and kicked in the face by 3 black kids. THe kid himself said in the paper that they beat him up because he was white. There are no white gang bangers in this area. Only black gangs, there white skin head gangs at the beach but not across the tracks where I grew up. I know what this kid went threw, he was walking to school and got harresed, thats it. The news just kind of brushes it off as nothing. THough when ever those skin head gangs do something, its not gang realted its racist.
Now the truth comes out, this struck a nerve because you remember getting beat up because you were a nerdy white kid as well.



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Old 10-28-2007   #47 (permalink)
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the past is the PAST !!! this is the 21'st century. ALL cultures have racists, and ANYBODY that has race issues has a SERIOUS inferiority complex, and needs to "grow up"!!!
red, yellow, black, and white..., they are ALL precious in "HIS" sight...,!!!

i am white, but if i bought a bar-b-que resturant on martin luther king blvd, {any city}, i would hire blacks..., does that make me a racist ??? do i HAVE to hire a "token" white person ???

NAACP, BET {tv}, black history month {february}, united negro college funds..., where does it end ???

blacks have all these groups/associations..., WHY ???

if whites wanted NAAWP, WET, white history month, united white college funds..., we would be considered RACISTS...,!!!

i have a black friend, who is married to a white woman, that has gone through "hell", {here in the south}, but he deals with it...,. he does not whine and cry and boo-hoo, because of STUPID society's "norms" !!!

his favorite joke is:
what did abraham lincoln say after a 3 day drunk...,???

i freed WHO ???

GROW UP PEOPLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we are ALL EQUAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If we were truly equal,there wouldn't be a need, for us to have an NAACP to try and protect our rights. You need to really,really, take a look around you. Your black friend has gone thru hell, because you whites down south, are so compassionate and caring,right? He deals with it because he is smart enough to know he has to,there isn't a damn thing he can do about changing peoples attitudes, except his own. I don't believe he would confide in you, when he wants to cry,and moan, because you are not sympathetic to his problems. the notion that blacks are treated like the majority, every one being treated the same, is a big fat lie.
This will never happen in my lifetime, and not because I don't want it, it's because those in power,don't want to share for any reason,and racism serves some evil,twisted agenda.
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Old 10-28-2007   #48 (permalink)
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Now the truth comes out, this struck a nerve because you remember getting beat up because you were a nerdy white kid as well.
Actull I wanst a nerdy white kid. I won some fights and lost some fights. Sometimes I was jumped by 2 or 3 guys beacuse I was white and by myself. I stated a couple of times that I had to go threw the same shit and I knew what happpned to that kid.

Alos when I started to date black girls I would have to defend my honor and hers, because many black guys did not like a white boy dateing a black girl.

It strikes a nerve with me because as I stated before I grew up in the area and know how racist it is.

You should stop assuming so much.

This was a racist act done to a white kid. It happens all the time in my local area.
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Old 10-28-2007   #49 (permalink)
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If we were truly equal,there wouldn't be a need, for us to have an NAACP to try and protect our rights. You need to really,really, take a look around you. Your black friend has gone thru hell, because you whites down south, are so compassionate and caring,right? He deals with it because he is smart enough to know he has to,there isn't a damn thing he can do about changing peoples attitudes, except his own. I don't believe he would confide in you, when he wants to cry,and moan, because you are not sympathetic to his problems. the notion that blacks are treated like the majority, every one being treated the same, is a big fat lie.
This will never happen in my lifetime, and not because I don't want it, it's because those in power,don't want to share for any reason,and racism serves some evil,twisted agenda.
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I said on another thread that I know what its like to be a minority. Why yes in the overall US Im not, in my nieghborhood and school, I was.
So I know what its like to walk in a store and be the only white person in the room. The looks you get and everyone treats you diffrent than they do there other peers.

When I see those movies where the white guy is trying to slap the black guy five and talking to him black and the black guy is like WTF. I know how he feels because black guys would always walk up to me call me buddy. Yes they where trying to relate to me but they where changing how they acted because they thought I was a certian way because of my skin color. When you a minority in an area its hard just getting by with out getting looks or being judged on a daily bases.

Being diffrent will make it hard for you ever to be treated the same in any society.
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Old 10-28-2007   #50 (permalink)
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Actull I wanst a nerdy white kid. I won some fights and lost some fights. Sometimes I was jumped by 2 or 3 guys beacuse I was white and by myself. Like I said before they were ignorant bullys. I stated a couple of times that I had to go threw the same shit and I knew what happpned to that kid.

Alos when I started to date black girls I would have to defend my honor and hers, because many black guys did not like a white boy dateing a black girl. I meant to remark on this earlier. I wouldn't be surprised if you got the hottest black girls which really pissed them off as well. Especially if she had already turned them down. I'm not saying thats right cause it isn't. I'm just saying I've seen this happen so I have a teensy bit of a clue as to the alleged thought process behind it.

It strikes a nerve with me because as I stated before I grew up in the area and know how racist it is.

You should stop assuming so much.

This was a racist act done to a white kid. It happens all the time in my local area.
Then you need to move, it's poisoning your spirit.

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Old 10-28-2007   #51 (permalink)
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Datdude? You are aware that Cigarbabe is black, right?

Cigarbabe is probably onbe of the women I would have to say has a right to really speak to the pulse of racism, it's affects, and where it has gone in recent years. Cigarbabe being a very classy and well versed woman also has a lot of learning in the school of hard knocks. She has lived a lot more life than I have in my safe little microcosm in the suburbs.

She doesn't candy coat the truth and as such people mistake her for starting a fight.

Cigarbabe has a lot to offer on this subject and we really should not discount her knowledge.

There is a lot of underlying emotion on all sides of the debate in this thread and no matter how much it is debated, the two schools of reason on this will not see eye to eye. In this case it is better to agree to disagree based on individual points of reference.

That sounds the most reasonable course to me.

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Old 10-28-2007   #52 (permalink)
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I am black - I have never done or said anything racist to blacks, whites, yellow or red ones - lets stop all the fight (to paraphrase Dr Winston O' Boogie)

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Old 10-28-2007   #53 (permalink)
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Eewww! You have vegetarian friends! Why?? You seem so nice and normal, I had no idea you associated with those people.

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I am black - I have never done or said anything racist to blacks, whites, yellow or red ones - lets stop all the fight (to paraphrase Dr Winston O' Boogie)

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Old 10-28-2007   #55 (permalink)
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Thats what Im talking about. People like you who just say get over it, who cares. Who cares that you experianced racism. Ok but my point was that it does not get any coverage and it does go on a lot. That whites just like you dont care and look the other way.



Because Im white I just need to move on and forget about it. White people have no reason to gripe about racism because blacks had it way worse. I agree that blacks have had it worse in this country, but racism of any kind should not be tolerated. So because Im white, I have no gripe with the racism I experianced. Or that others go threw in the area like walking to school and getting your ass kicked because of your skin color.

Spare your stupid ribble on the Mafia. Sorry you dont know what your talking about at all!!!! I stated my area, not the whole US, so stop making excuses. It clear that this thread is making you uncomfortable.


This is not a thread of which race has it worse. Its sad it has to go this way. You cant complain your white. Thats the problem.
"Whites just like you" The very few valid points you had,now aren't worth
shit,to me. Let me reiterate; to me. Had you not been so busy trying to prove others wrong and criticizing them for not reading the "whole thread"
you would have gathered from my post,that I am BLACK. Not White BLACK. The mafia are only one of many well known white gangs,but
according to you there are none,where you live. You also assume that racism is the only reason that you and others, are beat up. I guess you guys are so angelic and perfect, so you would never call someone names or be a part of bullying,or dating some guys gf,right? It has to be because the blacks are so racist! Yeah, OK, sure you right!
Osiris ,Kotchanski,Lafever,frizzle, all of what you said makes perfect sense.
From Kotch, the guy was a druggie and alcoholic, she knows it wasn't because he's black he's just plain old fucked up, and is a threat to everybody black and white. I am sorry for the pain he has caused you and your family,Kotchanski.Everyone should be raising their children the way you, and Osiris have endeavored to do.
That is the way to change people's idea's about racism.That is action.
I loved Dong's post too,very valid points.
I do believe there is some underlying reason why you felt a need to post this stuff,why not tell us? Also I would like to see this story in it's entirety. Why didn't you post that first,and let us, draw our own conclusions,instead of having to accept your reasoning that it must be racism.
Thank you Osiris for straightening him out,perhaps he would do well to read these threads! rotflmao!

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[quote/dong20]
I suspect most realise a simple truth; that if they treat others with fairness, honesty and respect they will be so treated in return. The one thing that will almost certainly not help is blaming the current generation for the sins of those who have been dust for centuries. I only feel guilt for bad things I have done personally, not for the sins of others. I suspect I'm not alone in that.

This will sound cliche, but the world is how me make it. The world isn't sentient, it doesn't enforce closedmindeness, bigotry and violence we choose to act the way we do. Radical social change often comes in small steps, but consider the situation even one generation ago.[/quote]

Dong, I have to disagree. The world does enforce/promote closeminded thinking,bigotry, and even violence. We can choose not to act that way
but I have found,even when I try and treat folks like I want to be treated
many times, they don't reciprocate. Even at the nudist camp we live at
I have to listen to such BS as, why must you be black?, you don't look black,don't you want to be white? Why don't you pass as white, since your'e so light?. WTF? When I say I don't want to be white, they snicker and make snide comments. This is a place,I thought would be free, from outside assumptions about your body, in all it's totality. How wrong I was!
It was naive I admit!They now discriminate against my piercings, which I will no longer be allowed to wear.I don't really know if it's because I argue about my being black and proud,or it could be that I won't suck up to the people who are aghast if you tell the truth,about anything.
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Old 10-28-2007   #57 (permalink)
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You know how it goes cigarbabe, we get to posting and even I miss the obvious. Hell you must admit you are very fair, even I missed your being black and my uncle is your complexion.

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You know how it goes cigarbabe, we get to posting and even I miss the obvious. Hell you must admit you are very fair, even I missed your being black and my uncle is your complexion.

As did I on first glance. Heck, I have first cousins that make CB looklike Angela Bassett.

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As did I on first glance. Heck, I have first cousins that make CB looklike Angela Bassett.
Babe? She makes me look like SEAL.

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Old 10-28-2007   #60 (permalink)
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"Whites just like you" The very few valid points you had,now aren't worth
shit,to me. Let me reiterate; to me. Had you not been so busy trying to prove others wrong and criticizing them for not reading the "whole thread"
you would have gathered from my post,that I am BLACK. Not White BLACK. The mafia are only one of many well known white gangs,but
according to you there are none,where you live. You also assume that racism is the only reason that you and others, are beat up. I guess you guys are so angelic and perfect, so you would never call someone names or be a part of bullying,or dating some guys gf,right? It has to be because the blacks are so racist! Yeah, OK, sure you right!
Osiris ,Kotchanski,Lafever,frizzle, all of what you said makes perfect sense.
From Kotch, the guy was a druggie and alcoholic, she knows it wasn't because he's black he's just plain old fucked up, and is a threat to everybody black and white. I am sorry for the pain he has caused you and your family,Kotchanski.Everyone should be raising their children the way you, and Osiris have endeavored to do.
That is the way to change people's idea's about racism.That is action.
I loved Dong's post too,very valid points.
I do believe there is some underlying reason why you felt a need to post this stuff,why not tell us? Also I would like to see this story in it's entirety. Why didn't you post that first,and let us, draw our own conclusions,instead of having to accept your reasoning that it must be racism.
Thank you Osiris for straightening him out,perhaps he would do well to read these threads! rotflmao!

I said their is a skinhead gang 10 miles away. In the area this beating happned, there in no white gangs. Just the way it is!! Im not perfect but yes I did nothing to recive the racism directed at me. I just wanted to be left alone. Please stop genralizing also. Im talking about a small district in 1 state. You keep trying to bring out history and the entire US into a place where it does not play and bring in things about myslef that yu have no proff of saying. Also I said in post that all blacks are not racist, even though I experianced a lot in my youth, I have good friends and very positive relationships with many blacks. I just experianced a lot of racism in my teens in that area and yes now I got the fuck out of there and live 40 minutes away.

I guess its hard for you believe that a white guy could experiance that kind of racism, but it happens. Its a fact.

I also came out at others on this thread who said I did not deserve to feel bad about being a traget of racism and I should get over it.


To you being black, never crossed my mind. This is the internet and your avatar does not mean that your photo is you. People put up all kinds of pictures that are not themselves. I dont give a shit what color you are. What Im not going to do anymore is debate you on a topic that you cant really debate, but say I have no reasons to feel that way. Like you know the area I grew up in. You dont know shit!

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