06-14-2012
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#871 (permalink)
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it might have been said in this whole 58 page post,
but what is there to say about gay for pay porn stars, who have to take viagra to stay hard. they'd let a guy blow them, but still return home to the wife and kids in a happy marriage. I wouldn't doubt their heterosexuality.
I think there is a detachment between being attracted to, sexually attracted to, and sexually engaged with. I've known people to have sex with people they really were attracted or sexually attracted to, for other purposes.
I think that extends to some straight men having another purpose to get blown, which doesn't make them gay.
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06-14-2012
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#872 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Endued Dude, you are missing the point so badly. There is no 'system' and no need for one, there are just words that describe things. This is how humans communicate FFS! .... |
Um, I'd say YOU are missing the point so badly. He made perfect sense!
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06-14-2012
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#873 (permalink)
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Wow, best explanation I have ever heard. Sounds like you know yourself very well, have no insecurities about your sexuality and understand the human condition.
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06-14-2012
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#874 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ginger_qboy Um, I'd say YOU are missing the point so badly. He made perfect sense! | Nope, sorry.
It's kinda sad seeing just how many people here are defending people essentially lying to themselves and others about their sexuality.
Is the concept of bisexuality really that scary to some people that they need to come up with all these nonsense justification of their 'straight' tag?
"Oh, no, I'm still straight, you see, because while I get sucked off by guys I really am just thinking about women, so it doesn't actually count as sex with a guy, so you see I'm actually straight when you think about it. I mean I absolutely love getting sucked off by men, but I also love getting head from women too, so I can still call myself straight, right? ...right? I mean, 'straight' will now have to mean two conflicting things, but I'm prepared to accept the confusion as long as I get to use the label I want. Thanks for understanding!"
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06-14-2012
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#875 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Smaccoms The bisexual is an illusory choice. There are two ends to this spectrum; gay and straight. Often, third choices are "created" to further elevate the legitimacy of the extremes. Attempting to view the binary system as legitimate does not work. In order to prevent the oppression of deviant genders, sexualities, etc, we need to construct a different system. Western Culture is filled with binaries: gay versus straight, white versus black, male versus female. It is a cultural phenomenon with extreme impacts.
Also, the very words "Gay", "Straight", and "Bisexual" reference and reinforce another binary; male versus female. Why don't we remove the middle man? I prefer men, you prefer women, my friend prefers men and women. No referencing and significantly less reinforcing. Saying "I prefer trans-men" suddenly finds much more equal footing with such phrases as "I prefer men". With the binary system, their is no term for it, as well as it gives the impression there should not be. Trust me, heterosexual, bisexual, and homosexual is a binary system. | This seems kind of incoherent. You're saying that a dynamic continuum (between 100% gay and 100% straight) is actually a binary system because it references only two possible genders. Your point of reshaping definitions of sexual preference and orientation makes sense, but your use of clearly defined terms out of logical context kind of renders the actual argument made into something meaningless.
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06-14-2012
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#876 (permalink)
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If you have sex with a sheep does that make you a farmer?
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06-14-2012
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#877 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ginger_qboy Um, I'd say YOU are missing the point so badly. He made perfect sense! | This was the last response I was expecting. Thanks!
I found his accusations the most funny. Especially when he says I'm "afraid of the bisexual". I clearly state that avoiding the labels allows deviant genders and sexualities to partake socially with everyone else. In other words, pulling those who are different into the picture. His accusation reveals he doesn't understand what I stated in the first place.
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06-14-2012
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#879 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by lemon_lime_ it might have been said in this whole 58 page post,
but what is there to say about gay for pay porn stars, who have to take viagra to stay hard. they'd let a guy blow them, but still return home to the wife and kids in a happy marriage. I wouldn't doubt their heterosexuality.
I think there is a detachment between being attracted to, sexually attracted to, and sexually engaged with. I've known people to have sex with people they really were attracted or sexually attracted to, for other purposes. I think that extends to some straight men having another purpose to get blown, which doesn't make them gay.
| Yeah. I can understand that. But anyone else that doesn't know he is straight and does gay porn...may think he is gay because of his behavior on camera.
It is about perception. (Yeah, I know some straight males don't care about other's perceptions of them...but people do perceive what they see...with the information available to them.) | |
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06-14-2012
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#880 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Kevly And what, exactly, SEXPERT, is "STRAIGHT GUY BEHAVIOR"? | If a hetero male likes another hetero female and the feeling is mutual. They may love each other. Have sex with each other. THAT is what I am talking about...straight guy behavior. His love affinity and sexual preferences are towards women. | |
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06-14-2012
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#881 (permalink)
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Probably many hetero guys just enjoy more being sucked by a warm , natural wet moving absorving and alive mouth or another person (woman or men) than put his cock inside a dead, stil, dry, unnatural, cold ruber thing. I think it is just a question of becoming smart, that is all. Nothing about becoming gay or bi, just being sucked by something nice while you think about you are inside a vagina or a female mouth. How many of us have being fucking a girl not so good looking while we were thinking she was for instance scarlett johanson? there is a smart saying that goes "beautiful ladies are only for men without imagination" so i think a hetero guy who let another guy suck him it could have a lot of imagination so that action would never make him gay or bi. Or do you think that when a guy fucks a fleshlight is because he is in love with rubers? NOOOOOOO he thinks that fleshlight is a pussy, why can't we accept or understand that a hetero can be sucked by a male mouth and the hetero can feel completely hetero? if we dont accept this, we would have to set another sexuality called rubersexual or something.
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06-14-2012
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#882 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Endued Nope, sorry. It's kinda sad seeing just how many people here are defending people essentially lying to themselves and others about their sexuality. Finally...someone understands. Is the concept of bisexuality really that scary to some people that they need to come up with all these nonsense justification of their 'straight' tag? A-MEN! |
"Oh, no, I'm still straight, you see, because while I get sucked off by guys I really am just thinking about women, so it doesn't actually count as sex with a guy, so you see I'm actually straight when you think about it. I mean I absolutely love getting sucked off by men, but I also love getting head from women too, so I can still call myself straight, right? ...right? I mean, 'straight' will now have to mean two conflicting things, but I'm prepared to accept the confusion as long as I get to use the label I want. Thanks for understanding!"--ENDUED ^^^THIS IS HOW SOME OF THESE "OPEN" NON LABEL DUDES ARE GETTING PERCEIVED. YOU CONFUSE THE FUCK OUTTA ME.^^^
THIS IS WHY I HAVE HAD TO PUT A "NO STRAIGHT OR BISEXUAL GUYS" RULE IN MY DATING AND SEXUAL LIFE. That weeds out a lot of unnecessary ish and drama. | |
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06-14-2012
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#883 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by locomiax Probably many hetero guys just enjoy more being sucked by a warm , natural wet moving absorving and alive mouth or another person (woman or men) than put his cock inside a dead, stil, dry, unnatural, cold ruber thing. I think it is just a question of becoming smart, that is all. Nothing about becoming gay or bi, just being sucked by something nice while you think about you are inside a vagina or a female mouth. How many of us have being fucking a girl not so good looking while we were thinking she was for instance scarlett johanson? there is a smart saying that goes "beautiful ladies are only for men without imagination" so i think a hetero guy who let another guy suck him it could have a lot of imagination so that action would never make him gay or bi. Or do you think that when a guy fucks a fleshlight is because he is in love with rubers? NOOOOOOO he thinks that fleshlight is a pussy, why can't we accept or understand that a hetero can be sucked by a male mouth and the hetero can feel completely hetero? if we dont accept this, we would have to set another sexuality called rubersexual or something. | You have totally derailed that train of thought. This isn't about sex toy usage and sexual fantasies and transference. THIS IS ABOUT STRAIGHT MEN GETTING A BLOWJOB FROM ANOTHER MAN. Does it make the straight man straight? He could be totally straight. But people who don't know the dude and they see him getting his dick sucked. He looks really homosexual as fuck. They both appear gay. | |
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06-14-2012
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#884 (permalink)
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i am spanish i have been living in different countries, does it makes me lose my nationality? or makes me that be less spanish? NO WAY i am 100% spanish, because even living in those countries i kept feeling like spanish and loving my country even more. I think gay or bi is more in the realm of falling in love or feel atraction to the body or the sexual organs of the same gender. I think nobody would marry a fleshlight, i insist, many man could use another male mouths as a closer replica of a pussy or a female mouth than a fleshlight. and maybe would never touch the body or cock for instance of the sucker, just because he doesnt feel atraction to it at all. For instance in my case i dont like average cocks, but i love to be sucked by a good sucker (male or female) if i have a good sucker with a small or average cock i would never touch his cock if he is a bad sucker and with small or average cock i just would leave that is all. but believe me i consider myself as a bi but when i am sucked by a guy i always thing it is a pussy and i consider myself as a bi, not because i allow another guy to suck me, but because i love huge cocks like mine, that is all.
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06-14-2012
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#885 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by locomiax i am spanish i have been living in different countries, does it makes me lose my nationality? or makes me that be less spanish? NO WAY i am 100% spanish, because even living in those countries i kept feeling like spanish and loving my country even more. believe me i consider myself as a bi but when i am sucked by a guy i always thing it is a pussy and i consider myself as a bi, not because i allow another guy to suck me, but because i love huge cocks like mine, that is all. | A Spanish bisexual male who loves his country, culture, huge cocks and pussy. No problem with that. I respect that. | |
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