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Disturbing observation: intact vs circumcised ejaculations in porn

This is my first post here, and it is undoubtedly a provocative one. My intention here is not to engage in a debate on circumcision (personally I strongly believe that the removal of sexual tissue

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Old 05-26-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Disturbing observation: intact vs circumcised ejaculations in porn

This is my first post here, and it is undoubtedly a provocative one. My intention here is not to engage in a debate on circumcision (personally I strongly believe that the removal of sexual tissue from a nonconsenting human, male or female, unless absolutely medically necessary, is fundamentally horrifying).

Rather, I wish to share an observation I have made over the years.

I should also state that I am circumcised.

One of the key points made in support of the idea that genital cutting is harmful is that the removal of erogenous tissue reduces the range and complexity of available sensation.

I now strongly suspect that circumcision, especially the ones which remove the bulk of frenular tissue, reduces the strength of orgasm. There is a speculative theoretical basis for this claim, but also a pretty robust empirical one.

I have noticed that the most powerful ejaculations in porn are produced by a group of men who are largely intact. Peter North is a notable exception, but he is a rare example of a circumcised male who shoots hard. And there are many european stars who shoot with more velocity and volume than him.

I am talking about the sort of cumshots which involve a large number of high powered spurts, where the fluid is literally sprayed due to the high velocity.

The theoretical (and admittedly speculative) basis which may underlie this observation runs something as follows:

In my own experience, orgasm seems to be produced when a system of interconnected nerve endings reach a threshold of stimulation. During the seconds leading up to orgasm, I can feel all the involved nerve endings ramp up their activity until they can no longer be contained. Once threshold is reached, they seem to release all the built up energy in a pattern of activity. This pattern of activity defines the flavour and dynamic of the orgasm, and can vary from session to session. Generally, the energy seems to be released in a series of pulses, and each pulse seems to send signals to the muscles which contract and release ejaculate. The more powerful each pulse, the more powerful each contraction, and the more powerful each spurt.

It would seem to follow that with more nerve endings, one can build up a larger store of energy. Circumcision often removes significant quantities of these neural modulators. Circumcised males often have remnants of this tissue at the ventral region at the scarline (underside of shaft). Intact males have the full array of tissue which extends up to the tip of the glans (head of penis).


Yes, ejaculations differ from person to person - yes edging makes a HUGE difference, yes kegels may help, etc.

BUT

all else being equal, it really seems as if intact males have more powerful orgasms.

I have also observed that circumcised males who have been spared the bulk of their frenular tissue are able to shoot almost as hard as intact males (though it is often very hard to ascertain this, since you need a good camera angle to see this).

I trust I am not breaking any forum rules by doing this - here are some examples of some intact cumshots.

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Old 05-26-2008   #2 (permalink)
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But orgasm and ejaculation are two different processes. Both can occur without the other.
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Old 05-26-2008   #3 (permalink)
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Old 05-26-2008   #4 (permalink)
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But orgasm and ejaculation are two different processes. Both can occur without the other.
Not meaning to be rude, but I don't see how this is a relevant point (even if it's true).
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Old 05-26-2008   #5 (permalink)
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But orgasm and ejaculation are two different processes. Both can occur without the other.
Something I've done a few times before is build up my orgasm, and just before cumming, I completely stop, so I ejaculate but I don't orgasm, then I go at it again and have an extraordinary orgasm that makes me ejaculate just a bit more and feels amazing. I suggest every guy try it.
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Old 05-26-2008   #6 (permalink)
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I am talking about the sort of cumshots which involve a large number of high powered spurts, where the fluid is literally sprayed due to the high velocity.
Okay, first of all: you're falling into the trap of believing that everything you see in porn is real. STOP DOING THAT.

Explanation: Porn stars commonly take many supplements to increase their "load" size. And even then, they film for a few hours (not a few minutes), and during the course of filming they edge many rimes, both on camera and by use of the "fluffer." I can guarantee you that if you were to take the same supplements and edge for 3-6 hours, you would shoot just like they do. . .regardless of whether or not you have a foreskin.
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Old 05-26-2008   #7 (permalink)
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Okay, first of all: you're falling into the trap of believing that everything you see in porn is real. STOP DOING THAT.
Explanation: Porn stars commonly take many supplements to increase their "load" size. And even then, they film for a few hours (not a few minutes), and during the course of filming they edge many rimes, both on camera and by use of the "fluffer." I can guarantee you that if you were to take the same supplements and edge for 3-6 hours, you would shoot just like they do. . .regardless of whether or not you have a foreskin.
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Old 05-26-2008   #8 (permalink)
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Okay, first of all: you're falling into the trap of believing that everything you see in porn is real. STOP DOING THAT.

Explanation: Porn stars commonly take many supplements to increase their "load" size. And even then, they film for a few hours (not a few minutes), and during the course of filming they edge many rimes, both on camera and by use of the "fluffer." I can guarantee you that if you were to take the same supplements and edge for 3-6 hours, you would shoot just like they do. . .regardless of whether or not you have a foreskin.
This doesn't explain why intact males tend to shoot harder. In order to account for that observation, one would need to explain why intact males receive more "fluff" and "supplement" treatment. Watch the videos I posted, and try to find examples of circumcised males shooting with that amount of force.
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Old 05-26-2008   #9 (permalink)
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Old 05-26-2008   #10 (permalink)
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thanks :)
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Old 05-26-2008   #11 (permalink)
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Hmm. I always wonder about members who suddenly appeared (especially after some out-of-control threads which the "new" member feels obliged to continue in fresh threads).

But I digress.

The only person in a position to truly compare whether circumcised causes a loss or boost in anything is those who got circumcised as an adult (after they had sex multiple times uncircumcised).

Everything else is just people pontificating and shit dribbling about things they'd have no idea of knowing.

FYI, if you really are a new member here then I suggest not making these kinds of threads (of which there are a ridiculous number) a regularity as you'll be labeled a troll.

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Old 05-26-2008   #12 (permalink)
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Hmm. I always wonder about members who suddenly appeared (especially after some out-of-control threads which the "new" member feels obliged to continue in fresh threads).
You have my word that I'm not trolling under a different alias. I recently discovered this forum during a google search, and thought this might be a good forum to share the observation with.

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The only person in a position to truly compare whether circumcised causes a loss or boost in anything is those who got circumcised as an adult (after they had sex multiple times uncircumcised).
Many men who get cut as adults do not have as radical a procedure as is done on infants. This is because the tissue has fully differentiated by the time they get cut, and the surgeon can more easily spare the high quality frenular tissue (although many adults do indeed get radical cuts).

Incidentally, many women also choose to get cut as adults in cultures which consider the intact female genitalia an ugly object in need of trimming.

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Everything else is just people pontificating and shit dribbling about things they'd have no idea of knowing.
I hardly consider my post pontification. I've simply shared an observation I've made. I qualified my theoretical musings as admittedly speculative. I've also provided a fair number of "sample observations".


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FYI, if you really are a new member here then I suggest not making these kinds of threads (of which there are a ridiculous number) a regularity as you'll be labeled a troll.
Thanks for the advice. Perhaps this is the wrong forum to discuss this issue. Would you be able to point me to another forum where there are sexually experienced men capable of rational discussion?
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Old 05-26-2008   #13 (permalink)
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try to find examples of circumcised males shooting with that amount of force.

What's your point?

Peter North is circumcised. He claims that his secret to shooting big loads - in addition to his supplements - is "Lots or celery."


I forgot to tell you it's a requirement by the studio that the male porn stars go without sex or jerking off for at least 3 days before they film, preferably a full 7 days. So, let's compile what we've learned so far:

Don't jerk off for a week
Supplement with the proper vitamins and amino acids
Eat three stocks of celery the morning before you "perform"
Edge for 3 hours

I'm telling you: As long as you do this all of this safely and as directed, you will blow a HUGE load and have some of the most intense orgasms of your life.

The true answer to your question is this: Everybody is different, that's why no two men blow the same type of load. So, you've seen a few porn movies with intact men who blew giant loads? Correlation does NOT equal causation.
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Old 05-26-2008   #14 (permalink)
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My last fuckbuddy was circumcised and had, had a vasectomy 3 years before I met him. He had some of the biggest, hardest ejaculations I have ever felt. Even with a condom I could always feel him cumming. I was often amazed that he didn't burst the condom with the force of his ejaculate.


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My last fuckbuddy was circumcised and had, had a vasectomy 3 years before I met him. He had some of the biggest, hardest ejaculations I have ever felt. Even with a condom I could always feel him cumming. I was often amazed that he didn't burst the condom with the force of his ejaculate.
There's a fine line between "adding to the discussion" and "bragging and making everyone hate you." lol


(i'm being facetious).
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