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Matthew said:
Hmmm. Wonder if Allah is an LPSG member. Which forum do you think would be his favorite?
Obviously, if Allah were an LPSG member, He would love all the forums equally. :rolleyes:

I think, with hindsight, that I summed up the two possibilities for where this thread might be headed with my phrase about the climate of "fear and misinformation" in the Sudan. Consequently, the poster had to be either someone trying to break free from that fear and hatred, or someone who was overwhelmed by and unable to see beyond its rhetoric of hate. In the latter case, there was no chance for a few remarks on a message board to counteract a lifetime of fear-based (rather than love-based) preaching. Many of the imams of the Sudan are rather akin to (to pluck one example from the air) those hardline Baptist preachers like the late Estus Pirkle, whose whole aim is to scare people into conformity for fear of experiencing eternal hellfire and damnation - rather than to preach any kind of message of love.

The addition of homophobic rhetoric to Islam is a relatively recent 19th Century adjunct, at any rate, and hinges on an interpretation of the word "liwat" in the Quran... a word that means simply "people of Lot". It is stated clearly enough that the people of Lot were destroyed and cast into eternal damnation, but just what they did to deserve this fate goes unmentioned. Interpretations by Islamic scholars prior to the mid-19th Century AD favor them having been lovers of epicurean delights who indulged in all pleasures of the body and the flesh without concern for God or the passage of their soul into the afterlife. However, from the 1860s onwards, there appeared sudden concensus that this word referred exclusively to homosexuality, and it is now one of the more common curse-words used against gay men (with lesbians excluded, as in Victorian rhetoric, as this would lend credence to the notion of women having sexual desires).

Of course, I might as well write this in the sand, since as one of those liwat, I am nothing more than an animal, as has been made clear.

And so, instead, I shall enjoy the pleasant irony of Dr. Rock having become an unwilling advocate for organized religion's viewpoint in african's estimation. :smile:

Since there are few online sources with regard to my argument on liwat, I am including a list of:

Further literature:

Badruddin Khan, Sex, Longing and Not Belonging: A Gay Muslim's Quest for Love and Meaning (1997)
Stephen O. Murray & J. Will Roscoe (eds.), Islamic Homosexualities: Culture, History and Literature (1997)
Arno Schmitt & J. Jehoeda Sofer, Sexuality and Eroticism among Males is Moslem Societies (1990)
 

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Matthew said:
Hmmm. Wonder if Allah is an LPSG member. Which forum do you think would be his favorite?

See, I figured that Allah would be a fan of the Young and hung section. It's always good to see the creations of the earth growing and developing at an above average rate.
Or maybe he/she is just a fan of Celebrity Endowments....no one can resist the thrustings of Ron Jeremy, or the bulge of Matthew (McConaughey):rolleyes:
 

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islam says that anal sex between man and man or man and woman is not acceptable and prohibitted for so many reason :
1- It against the humanity
2- ALLAH created vaginal for sex because it a place for having babies .
3- Anal sex cause damages to the anal and the large bowel .
4- Anal sex causes HIV and may be other diseases .
5- Even in a pleasure the fucker in anal sex will get orgasm not both parties.
For those who are not belive in god , iwould like to say for them if think by your mind for all the world you will find some body you can't imagine him not like me or you stand behind that.
God is not doing mistake because he create the whole universe with a very
organized system .

thanks to all comments
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I was going to post a reply full of condemnation. Then I realized that the God I believe in does not require me to react in any way that lessens me. African, I hope you find the answers that you seek, I cannot find a way to additionally inform you.
 

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african said:
islam says that anal sex between man and man or man and woman is not acceptable and prohibitted for so many reason :
1- It against the humanity
2- ALLAH created vaginal for sex because it a place for having babies .
3- Anal sex cause damages to the anal and the large bowel .
4- Anal sex causes HIV and may be other diseases .
5- Even in a pleasure the fucker in anal sex will get orgasm not both parties.
For those who are not belive in god , iwould like to say for them if think by your mind for all the world you will find some body you can't imagine him not like me or you stand behind that.
God is not doing mistake because he create the whole universe with a very
organized system .

thanks to all comments
african

Spoken like a true narrow minded idiot.
 
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african said:
islam says that anal sex between man and man or man and woman is not acceptable and prohibitted for so many reason :
1- It against the humanity
How? What does it do against humanity?

african said:
2- ALLAH created vaginal for sex because it a place for having babies.

If sex were only for making babies, it would not feel so good as to distract and even be addictive for some. Besides. You asked about cunnilingus when you first got herre, didn't you? Why is it okay to put your tongue into a vagina, but not your penis into an anus? Neither will lead to conception.

african said:
3- Anal sex cause damages to the anal and the large bowel .
Like we told you: No it doesn't.

african said:
4- Anal sex causes HIV and may be other diseases .
All sex can lead to HIV and other diseases. Women are especially susceptible.

african said:
5- Even in a pleasure the fucker in anal sex will get orgasm not both parties.
Let me take a strap-on to you and prove you wrong. Stimulating a man anally stimulates his prostate gland, which in turn will lead to ejaculation for most men. I have had orgasms with no other stimulation than being anally penetrated. Do you really think so many peoplle would do it if it didn't feel good? Very, very good?

african said:
For those who are not belive in god , iwould like to say for them if think by your mind for all the world you will find some body you can't imagine him not like me or you stand behind that.
God is not doing mistake because he create the whole universe with a very
organized system .

thanks to all comments
african

You are correct about one thing. God does not make mistakes. He made no mistake when he created any of us, not even homosexuals. You think about that.
 

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tallguypns said:
Spoken like a true narrow minded idiot.
Well, I'm not sure I'd go that far, but what I certainly WOULD say is... Don't ask questions that you don't want answered.

He posed a question. Some members dismissed it, but other members, most notably Alex, gave legitimate answers. He then turns around and bashes the very subject with which he baited us. The part that bothers me most is that Alex actually did stick he neck out to defend this guy, and legitimize the initial question, and this is how the act is repaid.
 

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novice_btm said:
Well, I'm not sure I'd go that far, but what I certainly WOULD say is... Don't ask questions that you don't want answered.

He posed a question. Some members dismissed it, but other members, most notably Alex, gave legitimate answers. He then turns around and bashes the very subject with which he baited us. The part that bothers me most is that Alex actually did stick he neck out to defend this guy, and legitimize the initial question, and this is how the act is repaid.

Which is why I went that far.
 

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novice_btm said:
Well, I'm not sure I'd go that far, but what I certainly WOULD say is... Don't ask questions that you don't want answered.

The part that bothers me most is that Alex actually did stick he neck out to defend this guy, and legitimize the initial question, and this is how the act is repaid.
I'm not so sure it was a question that the poster didn't want answered... rather a case of seeking affirmation and being blind to any divergent viewpoints to the one he held.

As for sticking my neck out... don't forget how many years I spent in the Middle East, so I had a fair idea what the response might be. It's more a case of ensuring that information is imparted just on the off-chance that the person asking wishes to listen. And believe you me, if just one instance in 1000 pays off, then it's worth it.

However, if you've lived your entire life in a culture of indoctrination, where all books, television programs, films, radio broadcasts, etc. are subject to government censorship prior to being approved (and this is true even in a more liberal state such as Egypt); and where you are force-fed the small-minded rants of imams from the mosques several times a day (usually by loud speaker throughout the streets, so that you will hear even when not in attendance) ... then what else can possibly shape your worldview? A few retorts from "westerners" on a website stand no chance of contradicting that lifetime of omnipresent indoctrination.

Having said that, I am sure those imams and censor-approved books have a few choice words to say about those who view pornography as well :rolleyes::
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Mr.bron when i mention anal sex is agaist humanity that means God created the pepole in 2 types male and femal it is rare you can find male with female organ or opposite , this case needs to have a treatment to be either male or female depend on medical advice.

so if a male fuck a male in anal the fucker is a male what do you call the other ........ , his sex way tells he is female because he likes to be fucked .so this what i told againist humanity .
Regarding HIV iwould like to tell anal sex is the main cause for HIV, then woman will get effect from infected male.
 

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african said:
Mr.bron when i mention anal sex is agaist humanity that means God created the pepole in 2 types male and femal it is rare you can find male with female organ or opposite , this case needs to have a treatment to be either male or female depend on medical advice.

so if a male fuck a male in anal the fucker is a male what do you call the other ........ , his sex way tells he is female because he likes to be fucked .so this what i told againist humanity .
Regarding HIV iwould like to tell anal sex is the main cause for HIV, then woman will get effect from infected male.
You are so completely misguided and lacking insight in everything you think and say that I have no idea where to begin in trying to bring clarity to you. Your mind will remain a closed vault until you search for the key with which to open it.

Maybe it's best that you just go look at the porn again:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y78/zarpafilms7/af2b.jpg

...oh, that's just what you have been doing. :rolleyes:

Mr. :biggrin1: Bronx, african is using the commonplace modernday-Islam dichotomy of human/animal to explain his thoughts... with animals deemed to be not under the governance of Allah, hence implying that homosexuals and others are not creations of God.

*canters back to the stable*
 

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african said:
Regarding HIV iwould like to tell anal sex is the main cause for HIV, then woman will get effect from infected male.
In the unlikely event that someone's paying attention to your misguided beliefs, let me say that HIV is NOT caused by anal sex. HIV is the virus which triggers AIDS, and it is spread when the blood or sexual fluids of an infected person into another person's bloodstream. This happens in a few ways:

1) Sharing injection needles with an infected person
2) Transfusion with blood that wasn't properly screened.
3) Unprotected (without a condom) vaginal or anal intercourse. While most believe transmission by oral sex is not impossible, it is considered very unlikely.

That's all.
 

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Irvy said:
It's not that uncommon a belief. My flatmate is str8, and he caught a couple of his work collegues laughing behind the back of a flamboyantly gay customer who had been in. He challenged them as to why they were making fun of the customer, and they made the dead brain reply of "Why? are you gay too?" He told that no, he wasn't, but his best friend was, and he'd hate to think that people made fun of me like that. They put two and two together and realised this was the same friend he shared a flat with, and started asking the most absurd questions.

Firstly, they asked why he wasn't afraid that I'd come into his bedroom in the middle of the night and rape him. When they heard I had a boyfriend, they were horrified that my flatmate might possibly hear us having sex through the walls.

They also said that it was a "Proven FactTM" that after a while of "being gay" that your ass breaks, and you have to wear tampons, and eventually a nappy. This always happens to all gays apparently.

Ignorance is everywhere. If you behave in the way that alex8's aquaintance does, and don't let your body recover after sex, and don't look after yourself, you may well through your negligence cause yourself problems. But they're an extreme. A friend of mine who's a doctor told me that the sphincter is a muscle, and even if it is stretched or weakened, it can be restored through simple pelvic exercises.

Not all gay men like or practice anal intercourse.
A greta many heterosexual women (and presumably their male partners) enjoy rectal sex .....