Black American Men & Penis size

[MattBrick]

Additionally, correlations can range from weak to strong. I would think that interracial mixing has weakened the overall correlation, but it is still currently within the strong range.

Yes. Good point.

 

[MattBrick]

along the lines of the post above about people not knowing statistics, it's obvious most people here aren't familiar with the fact that a very slight difference in the mean will produce much larger differences at the extremes. if blacks are slightly larger on average, then they will be over-represented in the BIG end and under-represented in the LITTLE end.

that doesn't mean there will be no blacks in the LITTLE end, or no whites in the BIG end.

my experience is that this phenomenon is true. go to gay sex sites and search for guys hung 9 or 10 and you will get way more black men than white. in big cities, you can find dozens of black guys hung 10+ and hundreds hung 9+. and believe me, they're real...

Yes. Good point. This may explain the idea that the "big guys are really big" or whatever.

As to your personal experience
uh...I'm not real familar with searching gay sex sites for big city dick
but....1) I wasn't aware you could actually index profiles by inches, lol!
brilliant, 2) be careful meeting people online always

 

[MattBrick]

Black porn stars seem to be bigger overall than their white counterparts. Unfortunately, this helps to perpetuate the notion that black men generally have bigger penises than white men.

Do black men then have bigger penises overall than their white brothers? That question can't be answered with certainty. If it were found to be true - and it's never going to be the case - the difference would be so minimal statistically, it wouldn't even be worth knowing.

By the way, black men in straight porn really go out of their way to brag about their big dicks. They seem to do it a bit more than their well-endowed white brothers. I attribute this blatant ostentatiousness to not only personal pride, but to a sort of racial pride of the supposed big-dicked race. That's maybe why so many well-hung black men seem to go into the porn industry. I'm not convinced it's just coincidence.

Finally, black men, on account of this long-held belief, seem to be more sexually objectified than white men in the heterosexual world, considering male objectification is nothing in comparison to female objectification. All you have to do is browse straight porn movies catering to the big dick fetish to see tons and tons of black men - often the same ones - showing off their superior manhoods. That's in stark contrast to their well-hung white counterparts.

What gives with this lack of big dick pride among white boys?:biggrin1:

Thanks bigbull. You've always got something good to say.

Black porn stars seem to be bigger overall than their white counterparts. Unfortunately, this helps to perpetuate the notion that black men generally have bigger penises than white men.

This may tie into what amazing was saying about about the differences at the end of the spectrum?

By the way, black men in straight porn really go out of their way to brag about their big dicks. They seem to do it a bit more than their well-endowed white brothers. I attribute this blatant ostentatiousness to not only personal pride, but to a sort of racial pride of the supposed big-dicked race. That's maybe why so many well-hung black men seem to go into the porn industry. I'm not convinced it's just coincidence

Yes. I've always heard the black stereotype. I always though it was a load of crap. (I always thought that Italian and Romanian guys were biggest, lol) When guys I trusted told me they disagreed though, I was curious to find out.
You bring up a good point though, that a stereotype affects everyone's perceptions - both those who it deals with, and those on the outside.
Black men may want to live up and be proud of it, while others capitalize on promoting it.
I haven't seen a whole lot of porn actually, but one generally agreed on point of the post I quoted was that "the "huge" black guys in porn are bigger in general than the "huge" white guys.

That's in stark contrast to their well-hung white counterparts.

What gives with this lack of big dick pride among white boys?

Hey Bigbull, you're doing a lot to turn that trend around, lol

 

[widenine]

I find all this speculation to be very tedious and cumbersome. You won't get an answer to your question on this site. You will, however, get opinions and the benefit of extremely limited personal experiences. Certainly, no one knows why or if a black man with a small dick is more hesitant then a white guy with a small dick to enter a public shower. It implies that white men are more in touch and accepting of their perceived flaws then black men. It also intimates that a small dick is a flaw worth hiding from public view. I believe that most healthy, intelligent white and black men learn to grow into strong, well adjusted adults with or without the cooperation of their dicks. The end.

 

[widenine]

How big is your friend after puberty?

 

[playainda336]

This is based on your experience, observations, accounts of others.

Scientific studies would assert that black men are a little bigger than white men. I'm wondering. Like I said, I haven't seen black guys except on here. Friends of mine (intelligent guys) have told me, yes, they are bigger. In fact much of what they said, echoed of the post I quoted.

What were not looking for so much, is anecdotes or speculations.
I have a few of those. The one black guy I've seen at the gym is pretty close to my size hard, lol. But now, I start to think what Andyo mentioned about stereotypes, and showing off may play a role.

I'm not denying it to be truth...I'm just sick and tired of all the debate over it.

 

[widenine]

Thanks for your imput. This is pretty much what one of the friends of mine I mentioned was saying. Except that he is white, grew up with black kids.
He has a long, not real thick dick from what I can tell. He realized he was bigger than most guys later on.

"I saw a few semi and erect ones as well, but after seeing them flaccid, I wasnt surprised that there cocks were still larger than mine"

^What does this mean?

I wanted to say that I wasn't surprised to see that guys with larger flaccid units, i.e. dicks larger than mine, also had an erect unit bigger than my erect unit. They were just big dicked guys. Did your friend grow to have a big dick after puberty?

 

[deleted15807]

I'm not denying it to be truth...I'm just sick and tired of all the debate over it.

Have you checked out how many circumcision threads there are on LPSG? They far outnumber this kind.

 

[MattBrick]

I wanted to say that I wasn't surprised to see that guys with larger flaccid units, i.e. dicks larger than mine, also had an erect unit bigger than my erect unit. They were just big dicked guys. Did your friend grow to have a big dick after puberty?

Thanks for the clarification. How big were these guys?
Yeah, this is true, while it seems that guys who are smaller soft gain more when they get hard, and catch up a lot on the bigger guys...
the big guys are usually still biger than the little guys, if that makes sense.

My friend? He has a very long, but not thick dick. I can't say I've seen it hard. He is generally considered, and by his own admonition to, yeah, have a big dick. He grew up among black people, and never thought he was big until later. He told me that, black guys, as far as he knew were definitely bigger than white guys - soft at least.

Another friend, I mentioned in the post, has a little dick with a big head on it. Not like tiny or anything- maybe 5.5", decent thickness - he's a short guy, and it looks fine on him. He grew up in a neighborhood with only one other white family. He said he "thought (he) was black until (they) started playing doctor... then he knew their was a difference" (He's cracking me up with dumb stories from his childhood: context) He said that the black kids were much bigger growing up. He also said that black guys were much bigger and thicker than white guys. When I mentioned the idea of "twice as big" he said, by volume, yeah. (He is good with math)
(By cylidrical volume, say 7.75x6 is twice as big as say 5.5x5.25.)

 

[Principessa]

Have you checked out how many circumcision threads there are on LPSG? They far outnumber this kind.

True, but that doesn't make this thread a good thing.

Where is the option for, "there is no substantial proof either way"?

I wish that were an option on all these idiotic polls.

OK, according to Oprah, black Africans and African American men tend to have larger penises than men of other ethnic backgrounds. Now, would Oprah lie? ROTFLMAO :rofl:

Regardless, it looks as though I'll probably vote for Obama. Had a dream about him last night.

That's funny, I had a dream I had sex with Bill Clinton . . . I wonder what that means?:wink:

The last black man I was intimate with was very rough and very large-endowed. Afterward, I think I was very prejudiced against having black lovers for a long time. I am still nervous about being with black men this way because of the humiliation, I am sorry to say. But I see many beautiful black men out here I would love to know.

You're being stupid. One bad apple doesn't spoil the whole basket. He was rough, that's why it hurt and left you with a bad feeling. I have been with small white guys who were too rough and hurt me but I haven't given up the white meat.

of all the black guys i know and went to the gym with only one of them had over 10 inches he had 13 1/2 hard and i no quite a few white guys that are in the from 10 to 14 inche range aguy i went 2 school with is hung like a damn pringles can no shit so i think tha its just a damn hoax.

:WTF2: Dude you have got to learn how to write a coherent sentence! I do not for one second believe that you know or have encountered numerous men over 10" of any race.

Thanks for your imput. The poster I quoted to start the thread seemed to echo your thoughts : It might be that we are mostly "growers" and they are mostly "showers - I've heard this was because of climate, but black guys are definitely bigger as a group soft.

How can it be because of climate when blacks and whites live all over the friggin' globe?!?

It's pretty interesting that you are bigger hard. Can you tell us more about the other guys' feeling "hard" when he is not erect? As far as I can tell, mine is rubbery. I have been with black and white men and I have never felt a penis that was hard when not erect. I think this guy is pulling your leg. :tongue:

What do you think about black guys and white guys in general? Matt that is way too vague a question for me to even consider answering.

 

[Principessa]

MattBrick, As you know I grew up only 10 minutes away from you. My advice is to get the heck out of Ocean County! Seriously dude, educated blacks know to stay out of Ocean county, especially Brick and Toms River because they were known to have active KKK into the mid-1980's. I know you will say "no way" but trust me on this it's the truth.

Anytime real estate agents tell you flat out, that although the homes in Brick are in your price range you would most likely feel safer in Monmouth County that's a sign. :redface: This is why you haven't scene much in the way of black cock in your local gyms.

 

[MattBrick]

Njqt - you've fallen into the net I cast for you!
Now you see, all my curiosity has been because I am wondering if I'll be man enough for you when we finally meet and make love.
(Glimpse into Mattbrick's fantasy life: In reality, I'm a nice boy, and you're too way wild for me beautiful.)

Thanks for adressing some of the dumber posts. When I see them on here in any thread, I just try to ignore them, so as not to draw any undue attention to their stupidity by my vehements.

quote=MattBrick;1281998]Thanks for your imput. The poster I quoted to start the thread seemed to echo your thoughts : It might be that we are mostly "growers" and they are mostly "showers - I've heard this was because of climate, but black guys are definitely bigger as a group soft. How can it be because of climate when blacks and whites live all over the friggin' globe?!?

Ok, what this means, is having to do with how the trait we are talking about developed over generations and generations where the ethnic groups orignally lived. It is colder in Europe than Africa. So, and not to be vulgar in front of a lady, if men thousands of years ago were large flaccid, it would not have done them much good in the reproductive game if they lived in Europe and their dick froze off one winter. So, in general, according to this theory, their descendents were smaller flaccid than the men in Africa.

It's pretty interesting that you are bigger hard. Can you tell us more about the other guys' feeling "hard" when he is not erect? As far as I can tell, mine is rubbery. I have been with black and white men and I have never felt a penis that was hard when not erect. I think this guy is pulling your leg. :tongue:

I think what he may mean is "meaty, or plump and not stretchy" but he didn't respond. Mine is not floppy when it is soft, but is is soft, squishable and very stretchy. I can pull it up to past belly button. I think we are trying to agree on descriptive terminologies

What do you think about black guys and white guys in general? Matt that is way too vague a question for me to even consider answering

No - tell us. You are a lady with a past - in a good way - think Doroty Parker. If you can't take on such a task, what are your comments on their penises in general. Generalizations? Differences, size or otherwise?

 

[MattBrick]

MattBrick, As you know I grew up only 10 minutes away from you. My advice is to get the heck out of Ocean County! Seriously dude, educated blacks know to stay out of Ocean county, especially Brick and Toms River because they were known to have active KKK into the mid-1980's. I know you will say "no way" but trust me on this it's the truth.

Anytime real estate agents tell you flat out, that although the homes in Brick are in your price range you would most likely feel safer in Monmouth County that's a sign. :redface: This is why you haven't scene much in the way of black cock in your local gyms.

Yeah, and don't i know it. There are some real old time red-necks in and around the pinelands. I'm really sorry this is a factor you have to deal with living your life. Now, while you and I are nothing like this, we know there are some black people who are just as racist. There are parts of Philadelphia & Camden that aren't safe for a skinny 6'1 italian guy like me to walk in, never mind settle. Unfortunatly these are some of the least safe places for anyone to live. One day, we can hope it will be better for everyone.

 

[Principessa]

Njqt - you've fallen into the net I cast for you! Now you see, all my curiosity has been because I am wondering if I'll be man enough for you when we finally meet and make love. (Glimpse into Mattbrick's fantasy life: In reality, I'm a nice boy, and you're too way wild for me beautiful.) Double drat! I should have known it was a trap; but I fell under your spell the day you posted that pic comparing your sac to a large egg. :flirt:

What do you think about black guys and white guys in general? Matt that is way too vague a question for me to even consider answering

No - tell us. You are a lady with a past - in a good way - think Dorothy Parker. If you can't take on such a task, what are your comments on their penises in general. Generalizations? Differences, size or otherwise?

To be perfectly honest I haven't been with a black man since the Reagan administration so my memory may be a little fuzzy. I was however pre-engaged to a black guy when I was 20. He had the biggest dick I had seen up to that point. He was half Jamaican & half black American. He stood about 5'10" and 165 lbs. he was pure muscle from head to toe and a walk-on player for the university baseball team (FYI - that is actually quite the accomplishment). He later had a tryout with the Braves but sadly didn't make the cut. :redface: I think he was just nervous cause he really was an excellent player. I used to tease him about being short cause the guy I was with before him was 6'7" but had a shorter thinner penis.

Fast forward a couple years my next bf is a white American guy of Irish/French descent. I was startled the first time we were together cause he appeared to be about the same size as the Jamaican guy! The difference was this guy was 6'4" and about 250 when we first met. I had heard the same rumors you heard growing up that white guys had small dicks. Now I was confused because I didn't know if I was with a big white guy or if the Jamaican guy was small for a black guy. :tongue::biggrin1:

About 4 years into our relationship, we were watching some porn and he informs me that he is 8.5" long. I say, "thats nice come back to bed." It had never ocurred to me to measure a mans penis before. So he measures and it's only 8" long and he is UPSET, I mean really distraught! It took me like an hour to get him calmed down and revved up enough to satisfy my needs. :tongue::wink:

I have since been with quite a few white guys, mostly Italian and Sicilian Americans and all but one were above average. By above average I would say at least 7+" and girthy.

There was one Sicilan guy that was about 5" and thin. He was also a lousy lover. :yuck: To be clear, I am not blaming his penis size for his lack of skill and technique. He was a lousy kisser and sucked at cunnilingus. So when I say he was a bad lover I mean bad at everything!! :tongue:

Then of course there was one Jewish guy who was 4.5x5.5 and totally screwed up the myth of Jewish guys being the chosen people because they have huge cocks. He was an excellent kisser though and gave great full body massages. Though I always thought he spent too much time on my butt. :tongue:

 

[Principessa]

Yeah, and don't i know it. There are some real old time red-necks in and around the pinelands. I'm really sorry this is a factor you have to deal with living your life. The truth is that would be a factor for us in any state. You just get used to it after a while. My parents are lucky enough to have the money to always live in the better white neighborhoods. Consequently I have always felt safe on my home turf. Now, while you and I are nothing like this, we know there are some black people who are just as racist. Sadly, this is VERY TRUE! There are parts of Philadelphia & Camden that aren't safe for a skinny 6'1 italian guy like me to walk in, never mind settle. Pfftt, those are the same parts that I wouldn't be caught dead in during broad daylight. Black on black crime is always higher than black on white crime. Unfortunatly these are some of the least safe places for anyone to live. One day, we can hope it will be better for everyone. I've given up hope that Camden or Trenton will ever be re-gentrified.:frown1:

 

[B_superlarge]

Yeah, this is true, while it seems that guys who are smaller soft gain more when they get hard, and catch up a lot on the bigger guys...
the big guys are usually still biger than the little guys, if that makes sense.

Your instincts are mostly correct, growers gain some ground but don't catch up (neither do they catch up "a lot"). It's amazing how many assume that upon erection "growers" catch up with "showers". Believing that growers catch up falls right in with their belief that black guys aren't any bigger than white guys (since many admit black guys tend to have longer flaccids). They have no choice but to assume growers catch up with showers if they are going to believe white and black guys (and Asians) are the same in penis size.

Research indicates that, generally speaking, growers do not actually catch up. LPSG can't really be used to judge what the standard ranges of growing and shower are. Here is some data from a site many months back. I don't know if more has been added since then.

Also, at Thundersplace, overall the 3" flaccids averaged out to 5.75" erect (grew 2.75") and the 5" flaccids averaged out to 7.25" erect (grew 2.25").

So the two sites' datas match up fairly well.


http://www.erectionphotos.com/softH...dGalleryP01.htm

Flaccid Length--------Averaged Erect Length----------------Amount of increase in inches
1.00-1.49---------------------4.71-------------------------------------+3.50
1.5-1.99----------------------4.89-------------------------------------+3.14
2.00-2.49---------------------4.88-------------------------------------+2.63
2.50-2.99---------------------4.92-------------------------------------+2.17
3.00-3.49---------------------6.07-------------------------------------+2.82
3.50-3.99---------------------6.08-------------------------------------+2.33
4.00-4.49---------------------6.69-------------------------------------+2.44
4.50-4.99---------------------7.00-------------------------------------+2.25
5.00-5.49---------------------7.35-------------------------------------+2.10
5.50-5.99---------------------7.80-------------------------------------+2.05
6.00-6.49---------------------na----------------------------------------na
6.50-6.99---------------------9.00-------------------------------------+2.25


The numbers are somewhat unstable, which more data in each range would likely smooth out. The average increase is 2.5 inches in the chart above. The data above clearly shows that the pc belief that shorter flaccids/growers are just as big as longer flaccids/showers when erect is just not so even though smaller flaccids tend to grow more.

 

[Principessa]

No - tell us. You are a lady with a past - in a good way - think Dorothy Parker. If you can't take on such a task, what are your comments on their penises in general. None of them (black or white) ever bottomed out in me. Generalizations? Differences, size or otherwise?

I vaguely recall that the Jamaican guy was a little longer when soft than most but not all white guys.

 

[Lex]

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Is your personal experience (besides yourself) in agreement with this?

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No, it isn't. I know many more hung white men than hung black men. I have only one close friend who is black and hung. I have several white friends who are black and hung. In fact I know several black men who are distressed that they somehow can not live up to the expectations of this stereotype. They have perfectly fine penises, but feel inadequate due to this archaic line of thinking.

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Is your personal experience (besides yourself) in agreement with this?

Oh, and one feature that correlates to a larger penis, is a bigger body though - righ?

Not true. I know big people who have small cocks and small people who have large ones.

 

[B_superlarge]

There being short guys with big dicks and tall guys with small dicks doesn't mean a general correlation can't exist.

Height - The taller the guy the better chance there is he has a big one. Many don't believe a correlation between height and penis size exists, but this has been studied indepth at Thundersplace and there is somewhat of a connection. While the overall average size between tall and short guys is only 1/4" difference, the outliners (big and small dicks) showed a significantly higher occurance in relation to height. Tall guys twice as likely to have a big one and not as likely to have a small one.

 

[Tanvir]

...Finally, black men, on account of this long-held belief, seem to be more sexually objectified than white men in the heterosexual world, considering male objectification is nothing in comparison to female objectification. All you have to do is browse straight porn movies catering to the big dick fetish to see tons and tons of black men - often the same ones - showing off their superior manhoods. That's in stark contrast to their well-hung white counterparts...:biggrin1:

You haven't been to Holland. Still sore back there, honey.