cialis vs viagra ...your preference?

[Madison_Thick]

This is a cool thread. I appreciate everyone sharing their experience. I'm 44 and have never taken one of these drugs before. I tend to have a very sensitive system so a low dose of Cialis would probably be the better bet for me...

I tend to have a strong sex drive, but occasionally I hook up with a woman who likes/wants to be hardcore fucked for hours. My usual "fuck her for 25-30 minutes, cum, wait half an hour, then fuck her for another 45-60 minutes" is good enough for her but not ideal... it would be cool to have a shorter recovery time and a boost to what I already have going on

 

[D_Noahtall Stickytube]

I tried all of them (Viagra, Cialis, Levitra) in varying doses about a year ago while taking a BP drug that had some erectile side effects. By far I preferred the Cialis, and especially appreciated the 36 hour effective window which meant no pressure to perform. Seems that 1/4 of a 20mg tablet did a wonderful job. As others have indicated, Cialis is all very natural in how it operates, with no noticeable side effects, other than a stuffy nose on higher doses (i.e. 10mg). Loved the nice, hard, 20-year old-like hardons. Now I am off the BP medication, so, thankfully, do not need the Cialis anymore. It's nice to be able to get a major hardon once again without meds!

 

[clav2]

I have neither taken Viagra or Cialis but am very interested in giving one or the other a try very soon. I have no ED problems, but I tend to cum rather quickly. I'd prefer whichever would most likely keep me going for longer.

Can anyone give me their suggestions on which one may work better to last longer? If you have a good idea on the right milligrams as well that would be much appreciated!

Thanks!

I found ED medication made PE worse. Ask your doctor about a prescription for a small but regular dose of paroxetine; this worked wonders for me. It's an anti-depressant, but really fixes early ejaculation.

 

[clav2]

Ok, here is my experience as a GP who prescribes these things.

If your blood vessels are fucked from cardiovascular disease, there are no magic bullets except possibly injections of Alprostadil and various mixtures of phentolamine and papaverine.

Cialis has a window of some 36 hours from absorbtion until its effect tends to go and its absorbtion is not affected by fatty foods unlike viagra and its effect lasts only 4 hours maximum. With Cialis, you can be more spontaneous without having to worry if its going to loose its effect and unlike viagra, it is less likely to give you facial flushing and altered colour perception.

Partners of cialis and viagra users tend to favour cialis over viagra also. The clear winner in my experience is Cialis. Livetra is just viagra with less potency.

Thanks very much for the GP perspective, mate! I found the food impact much greater on V than C, and I've preferred the latter. I might, however, need to find a way to get my HA1C and BGL down to 7 or so to improve the effect, from what someone said earlier. (Losing 20-30 kg wouldn't hurt, either, I guess!)

 

[trance604]

anyone know where i can buy this stuff online that ships to canada?

 

[D_Jimmy Jammer]

Now I am off the BP medication, so, thankfully, do not need the Cialis anymore.

Just by the way, TallHung, It's great that you're off BP meds. How did you do that? I was prescribed them at 28 (fit, run, cycle, swim, etc.) It was discovered by accident helping a lady friend complete her gym instructor's exam. I was the guinea pig. Bingo - 'essential hypertension' (meaning the docs don't know, apart from 'genetics', what causes it.) In any case, I'd never have known. On and off the standard meds (intolerable side-effect) and now, at 35, Hyzaar, which, to date, seems OK. Did diet and exercise changes do it for you? I'm not sure what else I can do there.
All/any tips appreciated. :tongue:

 

[D_Pubert Stabbingpain]

Just by the way, TallHung, It's great that you're off BP meds. How did you do that? I was prescribed them at 28 (fit, run, cycle, swim, etc.) It was discovered by accident helping a lady friend complete her gym instructor's exam. I was the guinea pig. Bingo - 'essential hypertension' (meaning the docs don't know, apart from 'genetics', what causes it.) In any case, I'd never have known. On and off the standard meds (intolerable side-effect) and now, at 35, Hyzaar, which, to date, seems OK. Did diet and exercise changes do it for you? I'm not sure what else I can do there.
All/any tips appreciated. :tongue:

2 things I can offer as tips that applied to me (of course, they may not help but you wanted tips):

First, I was treated for high BP for years only after the AMA reduced the level for hypertension and I just barely crossed that line when I was in the doctor's office. I now take my own BP at home and it is fine. After months of dizziness and almost passing out after exercising, I finally convinced my doctor, by showing him my at-home BP readings, that I not only don't have high BP but I actually have low BP. He took me off meds 2 months ago and my BP is stable and normal. Don't trust pressure taken in the doctor's office if you suffer from "White Coat Syndrome."

Second, your BP can also raise due to your current emotional state. Stress raises BP. I know, I know, going to the gym is suppose to help but physical stress can cause emotional stress. You said you run, cycle and swim. Make sure you are not over-training. I had to drastically cut back on how many times per week I went to the gym and how long I stayed there. I now listen to my body while at the gym and try not to fall into the trap of "just 1 more rep" or "just 5 more minutes." If your body is tired, it is tired and you should stop.

Best wishes to you.
:smile:

 

[D_Ernest Porknine]

I've tried Viagra and Levitra and Cialis and like Cialis the best. I like the 36+ hour response plus I seem to have a much bigger flacid penis most of the time when I am on it which is great since I am normally a grower more than a shower but when I"m "on" I am both!

 

[D_Jimmy Jammer]

Thanks Shooter. I don't want to redirect this thread (a good topic for elsewhere) but, yep, I'm a 'white coat' sufferer. Can't stand that 'thumping' in my arm with the increasing cuff pressure. :biggrin1:
I've a good home BP unit (top Omron.) The readings are always higher on that than with a doctor's sphyg.
And I could be over-training...

 

[deleted356736]

Thanks very much for the GP perspective, mate! I found the food impact much greater on V than C, and I've preferred the latter. I might, however, need to find a way to get my HA1C and BGL down to 7 or so to improve the effect, from what someone said earlier. (Losing 20-30 kg wouldn't hurt, either, I guess!)

The HbA1c you are aiming for these days, as distinct from 10 years ago, is less than 5.5. 7 is too high! I have insulin-dependant secondary diabetes, my pancreas was damaged by illness, and my HbA1c is in the 4.9 to 5.2 range.

Peak blood sugar, 2 hour post-prandial, must be less than 8, ideally less than 7.5. This is why the HbA1c target is low (blood sugar must be in the range 4-7).

In many ways, although it is stressful, managing diabetes through insulin is the way to go. Short-acting mealtime insulin dosage depends on total carbohydrate of the meal, the glyceamic index, the amount of exercise you have done over the previous 48 hours, and the amount of exercise you will be doing over the next 6 hours: but if you can get all the computations right you can hit the 4 to 7 range better than 9 times out of 10. Although, of course, you will also go hypo from time to time, which is where the stress comes in. But, on the whole, insulin is good.

 

[WatchStr8Sex]

Thanks very much for the GP perspective, mate! I found the food impact much greater on V than C, and I've preferred the latter. I might, however, need to find a way to get my HA1C and BGL down to 7 or so to improve the effect, from what someone said earlier. (Losing 20-30 kg wouldn't hurt, either, I guess!)

Diabetes can affect the large and small vessels of the body - the inferior pudendal artery supplying blood to the penis and damage to the small blood vessels of the nerves - the sympathetic nerves responsible for erections and the parasympathetic outflow from the sacral ganglia responsible for ejaculation.

The lower the HbA1c (Target < 7.0) and BP < 130/80 can help protect the larger vessels. The mainstay of treatment is Metformin, pioglitazone, Exenatide injections and proper diet and exercise. I'd never recommend a sulfonylurea such as glibenclamide or gliclazide even though initially, they give a good response, there is a real risk of hypoglycaemic effects and their effect is unsustainable and they stop working after one to two years because ultimately, they are islet (beta) cell toxins whereas the other drugs preserve beta cell function and increase the body's sensitivity to insulin and drugs like Exenatide (Byetta) may reverse some of the metabolic effects and do not put on weight like insulin.

Exercise, under the care of an exercise physiologist with a dietitian anda good GP is all you need. Specialists do exactly what we as GPs do and I recon a lot better.

 

[WatchStr8Sex]

The HbA1c you are aiming for these days, as distinct from 10 years ago, is less than 5.5. 7 is too high! I have insulin-dependant secondary diabetes, my pancreas was damaged by illness, and my HbA1c is in the 4.9 to 5.2 range.

Peak blood sugar, 2 hour post-prandial, must be less than 8, ideally less than 7.5. This is why the HbA1c target is low (blood sugar must be in the range 4-7).

In many ways, although it is stressful, managing diabetes through insulin is the way to go. Short-acting mealtime insulin dosage depends on total carbohydrate of the meal, the glyceamic index, the amount of exercise you have done over the previous 48 hours, and the amount of exercise you will be doing over the next 6 hours: but if you can get all the computations right you can hit the 4 to 7 range better than 9 times out of 10. Although, of course, you will also go hypo from time to time, which is where the stress comes in. But, on the whole, insulin is good.

I suspect you are confusing HbA1c which is glycosylated haemoglobin and is a measure of how good glycaemic control has been over a 3 month period (due to the life of red cells) and capillary blood testing with a glucometer.

Most of the studies that managed to get HbA1c down to below 6.5 contained sulphonylureas which increased the risk of hypoglycaemia and the arm that had the lowest HbA1c (again the sulphonylureas) had a higher mortality rate.

People vary in their susceptibility to hypos and for some 4 is too low. 6 mmol/L to 8 mmol/L is good control. More important, as you say, is the 2-hour post prandial glucose (i.e., how you manage a glucose load after a meal). If that is high, then things need fixing.

 

[WatchStr8Sex]

For those without an organic cause for erectile dysfunction, the drugs can work just as well for people who have droop because of performance anxiety.

Some partners are unthinking hurtful twats when they cast disparaging remarks about sexual performance - In fact, it is generally their response that causes the problem in the first place and they actually deserve their sexual frustration. It is a pity it is at someone else's expense.

ED meds can help with erections without the constant worry about performing. In fact, I'd go as far to say that a partner who is so uncaring in their comments doesn't deserve you - go elsewhere.

 

[D_Noahtall Stickytube]

Thanks Shooter. I don't want to redirect this thread (a good topic for elsewhere) but, yep, I'm a 'white coat' sufferer. Can't stand that 'thumping' in my arm with the increasing cuff pressure. :biggrin1:
I've a good home BP unit (top Omron.) The readings are always higher on that than with a doctor's sphyg.
And I could be over-training...

Nyne -- I'm definitely a white coat hypertension person, and have found a great doc with whom I can feel comfortable and he is able to get reasonable bp readings. I've also found that how I manage stress has a lot to do with my BP. As such, I do my best to take care myself and not take on burdens/stresses that belong elsewhere. This can be challenging, because the CEO that I work for is VERY demanding.

Bottom line, what works for me is exercise, diet, prayer, and breathing deeply (when I'm stressed I tend to breathe very shallow and tense up = increased BP). Lastly, I'm not completely off the beta blocker BP meds, but can typically get by with 1/3 of the original dose.

 

[D_Pubert Stabbingpain]

Nyne -- I'm definitely a white coat hypertension person, and have found a great doc with whom I can feel comfortable and he is able to get reasonable bp readings. I've also found that how I manage stress has a lot to do with my BP. As such, I do my best to take care myself and not take on burdens/stresses that belong elsewhere. This can be challenging, because the CEO that I work for is VERY demanding.

Bottom line, what works for me is exercise, diet, prayer, and breathing deeply (when I'm stressed I tend to breathe very shallow and tense up = increased BP). Lastly, I'm not completely off the beta blocker BP meds, but can typically get by with 1/3 of the original dose.

Interesting, I have never had a doctor or nurse tell me to "breathe normally" when they take my BP. They need to do that.

I like your methods for dealing with stress.

 

[Horseback]

Cialis No doubt! Works on me for 2-5 days. I get longer fatter erections and much larger orgasms both intensity and volume. I also hang real nice makes me a bit of a shower.. Normally Im a grower.

Viagra on the other hand I like because i get a greater sense of well being. It also gives me strong erections and orgasms, but the hangover can be quite bad.

Its nice to change it up though, I even on occasion have a Levitra.

 

[RawDog]

Regarding breathing and stress control, what works for me is the 5 second triangle. Inhale for 5 seconds, hold it for 5 seconds and exhale for 5 seconds. Repeat as necessary.

 

[Phil Ayesho]

anyone have any real good sources for Cialis online?

The cost at the pharmacy is out of sight- but I am noting that despite the strong recommendations, no one is really endorsing a valid low cost source....

?

 

[B_Jordan85]

tried both brands, thought it would give me an instant erection that would stay up, i was wrong. I didnt really feel an effect until AFTER I achieved an erection, then i could slightly feel it, but it wasnt anything special. One time I actually popped two full viagra tabs and it didnt do anything but give me a headache. I wish these brands actually worked, i would have a lot of fun with them, but they just dont do anything for me.

 

[cdarro]

anyone know where i can buy this stuff online that ships to canada?

I've bought cialis and an antidepresant called dapoxetine (generic) which will be released in Canada as priligy which helps with stamina. I've got to look for the invoice as the site I ordered from no longer seems to exist. It was a Hongkong website and I had no problems ordering nor was the order held up unnecesarily in customs. Not badly priced (but not cheap) and they do ship to Canada. I`ll search my records and get back to you on the actual site; they accepted VISA/MC and shipped within 24 hrs. Good service overall.

BTW, my Canadian (legit!) pharmacist tells me there will be a generic version of cialis out sometime this fall. This will help your bank balance at least. No word on Priligy.