Contraceptive Issues

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  1. Bardox

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    I'll put this one in both the politics section and the womens section. it involves both.

    House Republicans muscle abortion restrictions to passage over passionate Democratic protests - dailypress.com

    Va House set to enact mandatory invasive ultrasound probe for women who seek abortions - The Washington Post 

    98% of women use birth control in the United states.

    Every time it comes up, poll after poll goes against banning contraceptives. Yet republicans leaders always jump at it. Birth control is evil, abortion is murder, etc etc... It gets a lot of attention for a week or two and then it blows up.

    In Virginia, there is a republican bill that just past the state house and is on to the state senate that says any woman seeking an abortion must undergo an internal vaginal ultrasound. To be clear, if this bill is made into law any woman who wants an abortion then she must lay on a table and have a doctor stick a "probe" inside her gentiles. There is no medical cause for the procedure. None. This is a party that says the government has no right to demand anyone buy health insurance and yet these same people are saying the government has a right to insert a vaginal probe into a woman's body for no medical reason and she has no choice about it.

    Why is this not front page news? Where is the outrage for this?
     
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    I'll put this one in both the politics section and the womens section. it involves both.


    House Republicans muscle abortion restrictions to passage over passionate Democratic protests - dailypress.com


    Va House set to enact mandatory invasive ultrasound probe for women who seek abortions - The Washington Post 


    98% of women use birth control in the United states.


    Every time it comes up, poll after poll goes against banning contraceptives. Yet republicans leaders always jump at it. Birth control is evil, abortion is murder, etc etc... It gets a lot of attention for a week or two and then it blows up.


    In Virginia, there is a republican bill that just past the state house and is on to the state senate that says any woman seeking an abortion must undergo an internal vaginal ultrasound. To be clear, if this bill is made into law any woman who wants an abortion then she must lay on a table and have a doctor stick a "probe" inside her gentiles. There is no medical cause for the procedure. None. This is a party that says the government has no right to demand anyone buy health insurance and yet these same people are saying the government has a right to insert a vaginal probe into a woman's body for no medical reason and she has no choice about it.


    Why is this not front page news? Where is the outrage for this?
     
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    The bills won't pass, and are already backfiring on those that sought to use them as political wedges.
     
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    Sorry - I had to delete all your font tags there were annoying as all hell and the text is too small for me to read easily.
    That's frowned upon here - don't be surprised if your threads get merged.


    That statement is inaccurate - the actual truth is that 98% of women residing in the USA have used some method of birth control at some point in their lives. I mean even if you are only talking about women above the age of 18 - way more than 2% are not using birth control of any kind because they are post-menopause.

    And have they managed to ban birth control yet?

    These people make a lot of noise about it - part of that is to satisfy their very conservative voters, I think they make noise safe in the knowledge that personhood from the moment of conception will never win the support of the majority of voters. But the ultra-conservatives can look at these politicians and say to themselves 'at least he/she is trying'.

    So Jewish women will have to bring a friend?

    I agree that the idea of a mandatory vaginal ultrasound is wrong - do you have a link to the actual bill itself, I'd be interested to read the reasons they have stated for this medical procedure.
     
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    There is ample outrage; but why use it now, when it is so much more effective at the ballot box?
     
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    if, medically, an external scan will do just as well as an internal...

    this is nothing but state enforced sexual assault as a way of punishing women for seeking abortion. is this legal?
     
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    No - obviously not - or they wouldn't have to write it into law with a bill like this. Would such a bill, if passed, be unconstitutional? I don't know enough about it to answer that. Maybe someone else does.
     
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    Rachel Maddow has been covering it very well.

    War on birth control
     
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    They did previously, and many would like to again. Up through the mid 1960s the State of Connecticut and several others banned the sale and use of contraception, even by married couples. In 1965 the US Supreme Court struck down those laws as they concerned husband and wife, and 7 years later expanded the right to use birth control to unmarried couples. A number of Americans believe those decisions were dead wrong -- usually the same folks who disagree with Roe v. Wade (abortion), or Loving vs. Virginia (miscegenation) or the surrender at Appomattox (War of Northern Aggression).
     
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    Welcome to the United States. It's 2012 and we're still fighting about birth control. That's about as depressing as it gets.
     
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    Please, please, PLEASE make contraception an issue in the upcoming presidential election. I want to see the GOP be that politically suicidal.
     
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    Bill Maher said it best "With this bunch of nutbags life begins at erection ".
     
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    Yeah, Maher was pretty damn funny. He said the current crop of conservatives believe that before the man can even light a cigarette, "there's now a third person in that room".
     
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    Outrageous
    What if the woman has been raped. The Doctors are just going to rape her again with this device.
    They should burn in hell (he said rationally) - stupid idea
     
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    It's the Republican's answer to smaller government!:cool::cool:
     
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    I would like to know why NO commentator I've heard has confronted any of the Republican OR Democratic politicians with the fact that when the Medicare Drug Act was passed --- Viagra was covered.

    If it is "unconstitutional" for morality to be violated by demanding institutions offer birth control as part of their coverage -- why was there NO outrage expressed by Catholic Bishops that doctors should be banned from prescribing Viagra for a 70 year old MAN, (well beyond his child bearing years by the way). If sex is only supposed to be for pro-creation and not pleasure alone -- there should have been a statement from the Bishops concerning the conscience of the single "older" Catholic gentleman who "needs" his erectile dysfunction fixed!

    Simply put, the Catholic church's position on sex (pardon the pun) is extremely archaic and heavily patriarchal to say the least.
     
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    Yet another reason to remove tax exempt status from churches with political influence.
    If they want to spew backwoods hate speech from the pulpit, at least pay some fucking taxes!