Do You Believe What Women Say?

[693987]

I encounter it on here over and over again, where some men are absolutely bound and determined that women as a whole place a priority on dick size. Those individuals believe this in spite of copious amounts of women stating otherwise, studies showing that if women were forced to pick, as far as the largest size the majority prefer, they would choose maybe just a smidgen over average length, and so on. Those individuals believe this in spite of women directly/personally telling them what they personally prioritize (not penis size).

Speaking as to my personal experiences of being with 50+ different partners with a penis and 60+ if including partners who didn't have a penis, I have never ever said anything mean to them about their genitals or the sex we had unless they were into humiliation as a kink. Out of the 60+ people who weren't into humiliation, no matter how bad the sex was, I was never mean. Ever. Not even when they may have started behaving like a jerk.

I give constructive criticism, I give praise as appropriate, I communicated for better times in the future. I am very aware that people may be self-conscious about a physical trait as well as performance during sex. I'm not going to be critical of a natural part of someone's body that they have no control over. I'm not going to be mean or critical of one less than optimal session of fucking. Life happens, stress happens, whatever. Giving compliments or praise doesn't mean it's the ideal -insert thing here- for me. It doesn't mean it's the best -insert thing here- for me. I would hazard a guess that a significant amount of women are aware that many men wouldn't react well to certain commentary about their dick. I imagine not all individuals are as specific/careful with their words as I am, so it could lead one to think that a compliment given means it's the best or the ideal. Out of the many people I've been with, that kind of logic could lead to my preference allegedly being a micropenis, a large penis, an average penis, a vulva, a mouth, an anus, or a strap on toy.......... just because I said complimentary things.

Do you believe what women say when it comes to sex and dicks?

 

[Mr Ed in Mass]

yes

 

[693987]

yes

Out of curiosity, rather than being critical, is that a "yes" in general or a "yes" but a dose of realism in that a compliment doesn't mean ya the best thing since sliced bread?

 

[stretch8888]

I think its a simple question but a complex answer with a lot of variables that depend on the situation, i always take things with a grain of salt and assume there is a level of bullshit as society says people should feel and think a certain way. I know the general consensus or politically correct thought is size doesn't matter or that's shallow thinking and so on. In my personal experience, between two people when the clothes come off I've never been with a woman who was disappointed to see a big one, I've been told countless times how they enjoyed it more than a smaller one. I've also heard certain women at times say that size doesn't matter to them in a social setting only to hear about a guy with a big dick and she goes after him.

 

[693987]

I think its a simple question but a complex answer with a lot of variables that depend on the situation, i always take things with a grain of salt and assume there is a level of bullshit as society says people should feel and think a certain way. I know the general consensus or politically correct thought is size doesn't matter or that's shallow thinking and so on. In my personal experience, between two people when the clothes come off I've never been with a woman who was disappointed to see a big one, I've been told countless times how they enjoyed it more than a smaller one. I've also heard certain women at times say that size doesn't matter to them in a social setting only to hear about a guy with a big dick and she goes after him.

Fair enough. None of the women I personally know weigh "political correctness" as a factor at all in what they say. Being careful around male ego, though? Yes, very much so. As for a woman "hearing about a guy with a big dick and going after him" is that something that you hear from men or directly from the woman? Because, y'know, I spend a lot of time talking with men. Men brag, especially about sex

Edited to add: I appreciate you responding, and hope you realize I'm mostly just being playful/amusing myself, not trying to say your experiences weren't true

 

[997384]

Going through a divorce right now and your question made me think of the decline in our sex life right up to her bailing out and me not having sex anymore. In the beginning sex was amazing and she would make comments about how big I was or how good it felt etc. At the time I had no doubts as to the validity of those statements based on the quivering mess of new wife on the bed. As time went on and the relationship started to falter so did the sex. She would say basically the same thing but the times of quivering wife were pretty rare. My ego would eat it up and I would give myself a high five and move on. Fast forward to a conversation I had with her post breakup she stated that she faked some orgasms just so I would get off of her and would complement me because she felt like that was the easiest way to get it over with. To be honest it stung pretty bad. Over time her statements put things in perspective and made me realize I was chasing a never ending stream of ego boosts based on something superficial. Perhaps me always looking for validation conditioned her to feel obligated to mention it when she could care less, I don't know.

Whenever my next relationship happens I hope that I can focus on pleasing and having fun rather than chasing validation. Seems so immature and shallow in hindsight. I think I have moved on from all of that but time will tell. If the intimacy is pure, real, without being clouded by ego then comments made would feel heartfelt and genuine. I would rather hear "that was incredible" vs "OMG your so big" at this stage in my life. It means more.

Not sure if I answered your question but thanks for posting it.

 

[693987]

Going through a divorce right now and your question made me think of the decline in our sex life right up to her bailing out and me not having sex anymore. In the beginning sex was amazing and she would make comments about how big I was or how good it felt etc. At the time I had no doubts as to the validity of those statements based on the quivering mess of new wife on the bed. As time went on and the relationship started to falter so did the sex. She would say basically the same thing but the times of quivering wife were pretty rare. My ego would eat it up and I would give myself a high five and move on. Fast forward to a conversation I had with her post breakup she stated that she faked some orgasms just so I would get off of her and would complement me because she felt like that was the easiest way to get it over with. To be honest it stung pretty bad. Over time her statements put things in perspective and made me realize I was chasing a never ending stream of ego boosts based on something superficial. Perhaps me always looking for validation conditioned her to feel obligated to mention it when she could care less, I don't know.

Whenever my next relationship happens I hope that I can focus on pleasing and having fun rather than chasing validation. Seems so immature and shallow. I think I have moved on from all of that but time will tell. If the intimacy is pure, real, without being clouded by ego then comments made would feel heartfelt and genuine. I would rather hear "that was incredible" vs "OMG your so big" at this stage in my life. It means more.

Not sure if I answered your question but thanks for posting it.

First, sorry to hear about your divorce and I hope it goes as smoothly/painlessly as it can, all things considered.

Second, fuck yes, Geralt of Rivia.

Third, it seems your soon to be ex isn't the only individual to behave in that kind of manner. Speaking only for myself (and knowing at least a few women who agree/behave the same), I only give compliments that are genuine. If I can't say something nice, I'm not going to say anything. That being said, blame societal conditioning or me trying to be kind or who knows what, but I've learned to be careful of the male ego in most cases. Especially about sex or dick size. My compliments will be truth, but they may not representational of the whole. Example, ex boyfriend of mine, he and I finally were able to have sex for the first time and it was... shall we say extremely brief and he demonstrated clearly that he was less experienced than I. I complimented the good parts, of how it was so fulfilling to actually have been connected and intimate with him in that way. It was all truth, but without focusing on the less ideal parts.

My sweetie gets the truth. Phrased nicely, but bluntly. Trend of x less than ideal trait during sex? I'm going to talk with him about it. He has earned that trust, though.

It's interesting to think about, because by contrast I've yet to be told anything negative about anything sexual that I've done. I don't think I'm the most amazing lay on the planet, but I take the compliments I've been given to be relatively truthful. It's not like men have shied away from saying extremely cruel things to me, at various points in my life. It seems to be of less concern in some (many, maybe?) cases to not be as cautious about women's egos. Perhaps that's just a very skewed observation though, with pop culture, media, etc. I see less women that talk shit about a man's dick size, compared to the amount of men I see talk about beef curtains, hotdogs down hallways, thigh gap, asymmetrical breasts, a flat ass, and on and on and on.

 

[997384]

First, sorry to hear about your divorce and I hope it goes as smoothly/painlessly as it can, all things considered.

Second, fuck yes, Geralt of Rivia.

Third, it seems your soon to be ex isn't the only individual to behave in that kind of manner. Speaking only for myself (and knowing at least a few women who agree/behave the same), I only give compliments that are genuine. If I can't say something nice, I'm not going to say anything. That being said, blame societal conditioning or me trying to be kind or who knows what, but I've learned to be careful of the male ego in most cases. Especially about sex or dick size. My compliments will be truth, but they may not representational of the whole. Example, ex boyfriend of mine, he and I finally were able to have sex for the first time and it was... shall we say extremely brief and he demonstrated clearly that he was less experienced than I. I complimented the good parts, of how it was so fulfilling to actually have been connected and intimate with him in that way. It was all truth, but without focusing on the less ideal parts.

My sweetie gets the truth. Phrased nicely, but bluntly. Trend of x less than ideal trait during sex? I'm going to talk with him about it. He has earned that trust, though.

It's interesting to think about, because by contrast I've yet to be told anything negative about anything sexual that I've done. I don't think I'm the most amazing lay on the planet, but I take the compliments I've been given to be relatively truthful. It's not like men have shied away from saying extremely cruel things to me, at various points in my life. It seems to be of less concern in some (many, maybe?) cases to not be as cautious about women's egos. Perhaps that's just a very skewed observation though, with pop culture, media, etc. I see less women that talk shit about a man's dick size, compared to the amount of men I see talk about beef curtains, hotdogs down hallways, thigh gap, asymmetrical breasts, a flat ass, and on and on and on.

Thank you for that. Its been three years, she moved on two plus years ago and I have yet to find someone to move on with. We haven't finalized due to the cost of it all. I hope to be done with the whole thing this year so hopefully it wont be too rough. Thanks again.

One of the best games I have ever played. Story sucked me in like a romance novel. Lets hope we get more Witcher in the future.

One of the best things in intimacy is honesty IMO, sometimes brutal if needed, but genuine honesty nonetheless. Its so much better than the trappings of being cordial with the fear of being honest. Just doesn't feel real. I think its a great skill to have if you can be honest with someone in a way that isn't demeaning that lets you express how you feel and end it with some positivity and nurturing. Being out of the game for so long I crave something real, truthful and honest. Fake and shallow drive me crazy.

You hit on a very important aspect to all of this, trust. Lack of trust is a big part in my marriage failure. Neither of us trusted each other and the rest just eroded away. Trust in your partner to be honest with you. Trust that the honesty wont be used as a weapon. Trust that you both can feel like you can be open and honest with each other. Props for keeping it real with your love. The world needs more of it.

 

[554279]

Do I believe women always? No

Do I believe them in general, about most things ? Yes

Do I believe women here or any other place where they have a great deal of anonymity, when they answer about dick size? In general yes.

Why do I believe them in general regarding dick size question here in forums? I believe them because they have no tangible gain for lying or not offering an honest answer with the associated anonymity.

When do I not believe them? When they sound like men catfishing. Based on my real life experiences when I hear a "woman" on the internet become dick-centric beyond reason, my fake alarm bells go off; especially when they get into worshiping or SPH, which IMHO is a male thing.

I think the most cringe worthy word I ever heard used by a woman in real life on my dick, was the word "cute". After I pulled my head out of my ass and continued listening it was because she had never seen a real dick that was not cut. The half in my head that was doing loops was my male mentality that associated the word cute with small, petite or tiny.

 

[thick_]

Yes I believe the women on this site about sex and dicks. And I feel they don’t have a reason to lie here on this site.

 

[693987]

Do I believe women always? No

Do I believe them in general, about most things ? Yes

Do I believe women here or any other place where they have a great deal of anonymity, when they answer about dick size? In general yes.

Why do I believe them in general regarding dick size question here in forums? I believe them because they have no tangible gain for lying or not offering an honest answer with the associated anonymity.

When do I not believe them? When they sound like men catfishing. Based on my real life experiences when I hear a "woman" on the internet become dick-centric beyond reason, my fake alarm bells go off; especially when they get into worshiping or SPH, which IMHO is a male thing.

I think the most cringe worthy word I ever heard used by a woman in real life on my dick, was the word "cute". After I pulled my head out of my ass and continued listening it was because she had never seen a real dick that was not cut. The half in my head that was doing loops was my male mentality that associated the word cute with small, petite or tiny.

Do you tend to believe what women you've been with about sex/your dick? I've learned not all men appreciate being called cute (even if not in reference to their dick). I can't say I entirely understand why "cute" would bother some people, especially given that I also consider large cats (like tigers, leopards, etc) and large reptiles cute.

I was a bit surprised but not in a negative way the first time I saw an uncircumcised penis. They just aren't that common for my geographic location + generation. I can kinda see how one might call one cute...

 

[soren10]

I believe that internet gives us 2 options. To be a version of ourselves that we are not in everyday life or to be seen with the most positive of lights. I mean talk about the things that we are not proud to admit to our friends or present ourselves to be " better" than we really are. With this in mind none can be sure about the honesty thing. A grain of salt is ALWAYS necessary in every online interaction. The only people that one can trust is people that have been through thick and thin together.

Edit it to add. How often does a liar admit his/her lies to be just that? ( rhetoric question ) This applies to both genders.

 

[554279]

Do you tend to believe what women you've been with about sex/your dick? I've learned not all men appreciate being called cute (even if not in reference to their dick). I can't say I entirely understand why "cute" would bother some people, especially given that I also consider large cats (like tigers, leopards, etc) and large reptiles cute.

I was a bit surprised but not in a negative way the first time I saw an uncircumcised penis. They just aren't that common for my geographic location + generation. I can kinda see how one might call one cute...

I think in real life you have to base any comments or compliments in or out of bed on the total person you're interacting with and how sincere they are in general terms, as well as how they in turn interact with other people in general.

So going back to my younger man-whore days, if I felt a woman was an air-head or drama queen and she said I had an amazing dick, I would take it with a grain of salt. If a woman that was normally sincere, relatively quiet, conservative and had an even keel about her personality and she said the magic words I would try to figure out exactly what I did and copy it times five.

Words impact people differently writ large on a variety of factors. American males become anti-cute starting before kindergarten (at least for my generation). Cute smacked of smallness, nice, non-macho, etc. By the time we are in high school if a girl calls us cute we are all ears, whole new meaning now. Being an older fucker now, when I hear "cute" I think "hmmmm outside chance I may get lucky here"

Until I joined the military, growing up uncut during my generation on the east coast was a pain in the ass. I thought my dick was somewhat deformed until I seen a Euro porn book and breathed a sigh of relief. Couple years later and I actually seen another guy in the shower from South America and he was also the same as me. Once I started becoming a globe trotter I realized I was no longer the odd man out.

Again as in the case of the "cute" comment most of my bad experiences in life were at least 50% my fault.

 

[693987]

Yes I believe the women on this site about sex and dicks. And I feel they don’t have a reason to lie here on this site.

It seems like that mind set is in the minority, and it's friggin frustrating I 1000% agree, there's no reason to lie. You have as much anonymity as you give yourself, and presumably don't know anyone on here in real life.

 

[693987]

I think in real life you have to base any comments or compliments in or out of bed on the total person you're interacting with and how sincere they are in general terms, as well as how they in turn interact with other people in general.

So going back to my younger man-whore days, if I felt a woman was an air-head or drama queen and she said I had an amazing dick, I would take it with a grain of salt. If a woman that was normally sincere, relatively quiet, conservative and had an even keel about her personality and she said the magic words I would try to figure out exactly what I did and copy it times five.

Words impact people differently writ large on a variety of factors. American males become anti-cute starting before kindergarten (at least for my generation). Cute smacked of smallness, nice, non-macho, etc. By the time we are in high school if a girl calls us cute we are all ears, whole new meaning now. Being an older fucker now, when I hear "cute" I think "hmmmm outside chance I may get lucky here"

Until I joined the military, growing up uncut during my generation on the east coast was a pain in the ass. I thought my dick was somewhat deformed until I seen a Euro porn book and breathed a sigh of relief. Couple years later and I actually seen another guy in the shower from South America and he was also the same as me. Once I started becoming a globe trotter I realized I was no longer the odd man out.

Again as in the case of the "cute" comment most of my bad experiences in life were at least 50% my fault.

Fair! Very fair. I've always been a fairly quiet person, but not exactly conservative. There was a friend with benefits of mine who was able to reach the posterior fornix fairly often, but the first time he did it resulted in quite the response. Many (I don't know how many) orgasms in a short span of time later, we did end up talking about it. I guess he hadn't hit quite that spot on anyone else before, and I hadn't had anyone do so either, at least not consistently. Pity I found out he was a cheating asshole and had a girlfriend.

Where one is in your life definitely makes sense, for how the word "cute" and others can be perceived, but I hadn't thought too hard about it. I'm so used to people being my age or older throughout my life, that it doesn't stand out too much. I read far beyond what was typical for my age and had the vocabulary to match, so I've often thrown people for a bit of a loop. Especially when I was a young'n.

I can't imagine the first man I encountered who was uncircumcised had any complaints. The novelty led to me playing with his dick. A lot.

 

[stretch8888]

Fair enough. None of the women I personally know weigh "political correctness" as a factor at all in what they say. Being careful around male ego, though? Yes, very much so. As for a woman "hearing about a guy with a big dick and going after him" is that something that you hear from men or directly from the woman? Because, y'know, I spend a lot of time talking with men. Men brag, especially about sex

Edited to add: I appreciate you responding, and hope you realize I'm mostly just being playful/amusing myself, not trying to say your experiences weren't true

Politically correct may not have been the right term.

As for the women pursuing guys based on size, I've heard it first hand from women i know and experienced it personally,
few years ago i was dating a woman in her early 20s, i knew she bragged cause it would come up in conversation at times and after i broke up with her i ended up sleeping with several women she knew and all but one had told me straight up they just wanted to fuck me because my ex had bragged about it so much. I've experienced it with other women too where there friends have known.

I know this is a topic that gets denied fiercely at times around here, yet I've seen/heard it for myself many times, my only thought on it is perhaps its a generation thing and the ones[perhaps not all] on this forum that usually get heated over it are perhaps in a different generation bracket because personally I'm 30 and i can say the 18-35ish bracket isn't shy about it male or female. Same can be said about casual sex, below 35 have no problem with nsa/fb/fwb, the few women I've tried having a casual thing with who over 35 all had to be ended because they just couldn't grasp the casual concept of it.

Personally i think most men are more full of shit when it comes to bragging in the locker room and such, grew up and still do live in a small town and i cant count how many times I've heard a guy brag about some chick he banged, but i happened to know that chick and shes like yea it was over before it started. In the real world though i barely discuss my sex life, if i did half the people i know probably wouldn't talk to me any more.

 

[thick_]

It seems like that mind set is in the minority, and it's friggin frustrating I 1000% agree, there's no reason to lie. You have as much anonymity as you give yourself, and presumably don't know anyone on here in real life.

Sorry you’re frustrated, just ignore those guys who don’t get it or refuse to believe you, they are certainly not worth your time, but know there are some like me who are listening. There are always people who believe what they think they know and there is no way anyone can prove them wrong no mater what or how much proof there is unfortunately.

 

[1151645]

Yes i belive, more od them was my GF so i suppose they didnt lie to me. What about my cock size i Think they said true too. I was lucky because most od them i was the biggest cock or the fattest one. But as i say IT was my luck

 

[693987]

Politically correct may not have been the right term.

As for the women pursuing guys based on size, I've heard it first hand from women i know and experienced it personally,
few years ago i was dating a woman in her early 20s, i knew she bragged cause it would come up in conversation at times and after i broke up with her i ended up sleeping with several women she knew and all but one had told me straight up they just wanted to fuck me because my ex had bragged about it so much. I've experienced it with other women too where there friends have known.

I know this is a topic that gets denied fiercely at times around here, yet I've seen/heard it for myself many times, my only thought on it is perhaps its a generation thing and the ones[perhaps not all] on this forum that usually get heated over it are perhaps in a different generation bracket because personally I'm 30 and i can say the 18-35ish bracket isn't shy about it male or female. Same can be said about casual sex, below 35 have no problem with nsa/fb/fwb, the few women I've tried having a casual thing with who over 35 all had to be ended because they just couldn't grasp the casual concept of it.

Personally i think most men are more full of shit when it comes to bragging in the locker room and such, grew up and still do live in a small town and i cant count how many times I've heard a guy brag about some chick he banged, but i happened to know that chick and shes like yea it was over before it started. In the real world though i barely discuss my sex life, if i did half the people i know probably wouldn't talk to me any more.

I know there are women who do prioritize dick size, just like there are men who do the same. I'm pretty fucking sure it's the minority, though, for women. I think part of why I don't run into women who prioritize size over what I consider more valuable traits, or who brag are because people who are braggadocious and/or shallow have zero appeal to me as friends. Having a preference is one thing, but to have some single physical trait be that highly prioritized/a demand? It comes across as shallow to me (and of course opinions on that vary and that's fine). It doesn't matter the gender or anything else, people who brag and are shallow aren't who I want to surround myself with. I don't think people who brag or are shallow are bad people, or lesser, but it's not the kind of attitude/personality I mesh with.

Very few women on here (none that I can recall, honestly, but I'll allow for some exceptions to be made) will say that size does not matter to any women. The extremely strong push back is because sooo many idiots on here act as though the majority or ALL women strongly prefer big dick, which simply isn't true. One would think that if the majority of women on a site like this one are proof contrary to that idea, it would be conceivable that the majority of women on the planet likely don't give a fuck. A very short list of people on LPSG have any idea of who I am outside of this site. I'm in my 30s, I had a lot of casual sex in my past, and I am most decidedly not a size queen. A fair few of my female friends offline are a similar demographic. Still not size queens.

 

[Mr Ed in Mass]

Out of curiosity, rather than being critical, is that a "yes" in general or a "yes" but a dose of realism in that a compliment doesn't mean ya the best thing since sliced bread?

My wife is brutally honest [ ask Altered Ego ].I believe what she says , why wouldn't I ? What she likes about me during sex is that she can give little hints to make things more enjoyable.I know that I'm much more than my penis.