i've gotten it from one person... i don't think he really had a technique behind it... i think he just wanted to see how far down on it he could go, and he took almost all of it. i do have to say, it was kind of a turn on to hear that light gag... nothin too serious... but a light one... he was takin it like a pro tho. i'd definitely like to experience a professional tho! any takers??