7
798686
Guest
Bingo!Where there are vastly fewer guns, there are vastly fewer problems.
That's not to say it won't be a lot more difficult than it has been here - but surely worth trying?!
Bingo!Where there are vastly fewer guns, there are vastly fewer problems.
YES! :smile: <31. Tougher gun laws. It's more difficult to adopt a dog from a shelter than to buy a gun
2. Mental health services (and better legislation for family who can see someone's gone off the deep end but can't do anything about it)
3. When you put out games where the object is to kill as many people as possible do we REALLY wonder why young people are desensitized to violence? Its on TV and movies and video games. Violence is fun!
I don't really care to debate politics about this. There are a lot of grieving parents today who just want something to be done.
Education and training can help too. Counselors in many high schools have suicide checklists that include situational stress, suicidal thoughts and "availability of means." Means can include firearms. Here is a PDF of one such checklist.2. Mental health services (and better legislation for family who can see someone's gone off the deep end but can't do anything about it)
This is an international board. Please keep your rudeness in your heart.
You don't think they need changing? I wonder if the parents whose kids were killed yesterday would agree?You gonna tell that to Joll, who wants to change US laws?
No.You gonna tell that to Joll, who wants to change US laws?
What I posted was my opinion. Nowhere did I say that he has no right to post.No.
Posting his opinion is not rude.
Suggesting he has no right to post, as you did, is rude.
What I posted was my opinion. Nowhere did I say that he has no right to post.
If you thought he had a perfect right to post them here, why would you make that post?Please keep your ideas in the UK.
Sad to say that those suggestions may be the best options.So, in my opinion, we need at least a two front approach: mental health services enhancement/reporting and some constructive prohibitions on weapons acquisition. But even these two interventions can't protect us and our children from a defective psyche bent on murder. They may, however, be able to thwart some individuals from committing these heinous acts. And curbing just some of these psychopaths may, sadly enough, be the best we accomplish under the circumstances.
And therefore you suggest he shouldn't even raise the contrary notion?Because I believe more gun control is not right for the US.
Because I believe more gun control is not right for the US.
It's far too late to talk about truly meaningly gun control. This country is awash in firearms and there are no remedies that would meet Constitutional muster to change the status quo. All we can do now is "tamper around the edges" of the issue. A return to the assault weapons ban that expired in 1994, limitations on large-capacity magazines for both rifles and handguns, limitations on "cop killer" bullets, closing the gun show registration and background check loophole, and possibly providing mental health professionals and college administrators the same type of liability immunity we give to persons reporting possible child abuse cases, so long as you report "in good faith" a person who they believe is too unstable to acquire access to a firearm.
I am still deeply troubled that the perpetrators in the Giffords and Aurora theater shootings were both banned from their respective college/university campuses for threatening behavior, but were not reported to law enforcement or added to a firearms purchase exclusion list. Even the Virginia Tech shooter displayed obviously signs of mental illness to the extent that his creative writing teacher tutored him privately since he was unable to interact appropriately in a regular classroom setting and Nikki Giovanni expelled him from her poetry class. We know that psychosis frequently manifests in late adolescence and the early twenties. And yet we appear fearful to call "crazy" out and take affirmative steps to get these individuals connected to mental health services and reported to law enforcement.
So, in my opinion, we need at least a two front approach: mental health services enhancement/reporting and some constructive prohibitions on weapons acquisition. But even these two interventions can't protect us and our children from a defective psyche bent on murder. They may, however, be able to thwart some individuals from committing these heinous acts. And curbing just some of these psychopaths may, sadly enough, be the best we accomplish under the circumstances.
Oddly enough, I agree. Rico has a history of great posting.Excellent post and probably the most reasonable approach mentioned so far.
Fuck yes. Thank you for that. It seems to obvious to Fuzzy that gun control won't address the real issue of mental illness and subcultural acceptance of guns.I am still deeply troubled that the perpetrators in the Giffords and Aurora theater shootings were both banned from their respective college/university campuses for threatening behavior, but were not reported to law enforcement or added to a firearms purchase exclusion list. Even the Virginia Tech shooter displayed obviously signs of mental illness to the extent that his creative writing teacher tutored him privately since he was unable to interact appropriately in a regular classroom setting and Nikki Giovanni expelled him from her poetry class. We know that psychosis frequently manifests in late adolescence and the early twenties. And yet we appear fearful to call "crazy" out and take affirmative steps to get these individuals connected to mental health services and reported to law enforcement.
Loughner finally got the mental health care he needed, but only after he killed a group of people.So, in my opinion, we need at least a two front approach: mental health services enhancement/reporting and some constructive prohibitions on weapons acquisition. But even these two interventions can't protect us and our children from a defective psyche bent on murder. They may, however, be able to thwart some individuals from committing these heinous acts. And curbing just some of these psychopaths may, sadly enough, be the best we accomplish under the circumstances.
A mentally healthy young guy sitting on a mountain of guns is no more dangerous than an unbalanced young guy in a padded cell.
...
We can't arrest our way out of a crime but we can tackle the risk factors that lead to it.
i would confirm, just new gun laws wount have a big effect on the everyday crime... but it would defenetly have some effects on attacks like they happened yesterday.Criminals mock society's laws. More laws mean that they'll just break more of them.
What I posted was my opinion. Nowhere did I say that he has no right to post.