How I know my sexuality.

[Brodie888]

The equivalence you posture does not exist. I'm simply citing data, not fact, not opinion. You can call into question the veracity of the responses that lead to the overwhelming conclusion that the vast majority of men are straight, but that is merely a denial of the result, which is a matter of your opinion, which is not data-based. With regard to your last statement, people (and by "people," I assume you mean "men") can claim to be straight despite having gay sex intermittently, but that doesn't make them straight. A duck is still a duck when it waddles and quacks despite claiming to be a cow.

Uhh yes.... That is my point.

Unless there is something new you wish to add perhaps we should move on.

 

[FrankieGuile]

Uhh yes.... That is my point.

Unless there is something new you wish to add perhaps we should move on.

Thank you, but I think I'll stay right here for now. No matter men might claim to be straight who are bisexual does not alter the data unless one assumes such claims as overwhelming. The self-reported studies commonly show less than 5% of men identify as bisexual. Posturing that 45% or more of the other respondents are making such fallacious claims stretches credulity. Rather, the data is so pervasive and consistent, it should just be accepted as is. The question is: why is it so difficult to accept?

 

[PsykotikTension]

For me, I never will understand why today’s generation is so hung up on labels. These days there are SO MANY different new “terms”, some are just laughable & sound completely silly.

For the label lovers, they will label me as Bisexual, which is fine, because I do enjoy having sex with both men and women. Gen it comes to sex and sex alone, I can get down with both. But I will say that I enjoy sex with women more than men (to put a ratio to it I guess I’d say 60% enjoy sex with women 40% with men). However, when it comes to having an emotional/mental connection/attraction, tho it was a journey throughout my teens and my twenties, before I finally realized who I truly AM & what I truly like (now in my mid thirties), I found myself to have “deeper” connections with men more than women the majority of the time.

But here’s my dilemma. Before I go any further, most will now label me as GAY/Homosexual with this additional revelation. But here’s the thing, I don’t know if I can/want to 100% give up having sexual encounters with women. Why? Because though I do enjoy sucking dick, I dont LOVE anal sex (receiving & giving). I have done both, & I do enjoy it, but only on my own terms. When I’m “in the mood” so-to-speak. I tend to prefer vaginal sex over anything else any day. Anal sex comes with a lot of prep work before it gets going, whereas vaginas are “MOSTLY” (but not all or always) readily and easily available for penetration with minimal prep work involved (especially for those that are “wetter” than usual).

Moving on, I am not attracted to trans women. Chicks with dicks is just not sexually or physically attractive to me. BUT, on that note, & this is a more recent self-discovery, I found myself REALLY intrigued and fascinated with TRANS MEN. & honestly? Lately? I’ve been really thinking about experimenting with a Trans Man. Because when I think about it, and based on my revelations described above, it sounds like the PERFECT scenario for me right? Dating a Trans Man would satisfy my need to establish a deeper emotional connection, which I enjoy with men more than women, and then the sexual aspect is satisfied with my desire for vaginal sex as long as the Trans Man hasn’t had and/or doesn’t want/desire to have bottom surgery!

I found myself perusing through a bunch of trans men porn recently which had my imagination running WILD! I picture myself pounding away at a nice warm wet pussy, in missionary position, while looking down at a gorgeous looking man.

Getting a little carried away here so let me get back on track lol. My point is, I am just enjoying living my life as my true authentic self. I like what I like, & since my “likes” are not black and white, I don’t believe I belong to one specific category of people when it comes to sexual attraction, sexuality, or sexual orientation. I am confident and happy with who I am & who I am attracted to and I don’t need a label to make me happy or feel like I “belong”.

And I am in NO WAY knocking anyone who disagrees with this ideation or anyone who likes or needs a label in order to feel that sense of belonging or perhaps need it in order to find themselves & know where they “fit in”. I am just simply sharing my own personal thoughts, feelings, & opinions on the topic and I enjoy hearing/reading the opinions of others especially those that think or believe differently than I do! I am EXTREMELY open minded & welcoming of all walks of life & opinions/ideations, as for me, I believe it helps me grow & become wiser being educated & learning about different things when it comes to….. let’s just say,,, when it comes to “LIFE”.

I’ve been given all sorts of labels from straight with gay tendencies, gay with straight tendencies, bisexual, sexually fluid, pansexual (even though i’m pretty sure I don’t qualify for this label as, to MY understanding, Pansexuals are equally attracted to ALL sexes/genders), duo sexual (is this even a real term??? lol), and the list goes on. I NEVER make my sexual preferences public without being asked. Meaning I don’t ever bring it up in conversation or advertise it in anyway. The only time I’ll reveal any details is if someone asks me straight up. When that happens, I’ll be honest, I always just use the term “bisexual” because with my experience, I have learned that MOST common folk, aren’t educated enough on the topic, or completely against it, or just simply don’t know about all the different preferences when it comes to the topic of sexuality. So, to avoid going into some long drawn out complicated explanation & to avoid puzzled/confused looks and expressions, I just go with a term that most people are familiar of and understand.

Because at the end of the day, my self expression and self identity is solely for MY OWN HAPPINESS & SATISFACTION with MY LIFE. I’m not here to please or cater to anyone else other than myself. So, it doesn’t matter to me what anyone else thinks about me or who I am or what I like or don’t like. Not only is it honestly, none of your business but who I choose to love and/or have sex with in no way shape or form affects YOUR life. You can either accept me for who I am, & if you like my personality and simply like me as a person, then we can be friends! If not, then kick rocks!

Society & the opinions of others, religion, governments, etc. Have shaped the way people think today. After thousands of years and generations upon generations of people, society has made the ability to publicly just be yourself something to fear, whether it’s due to the beliefs of your friends and family, religion, or the laws/governement, etc. It’s not easy to be anything other than a heterosexual in this world. So combined with societies expectations of what a MAN is supposed to be, most men are afraid to act on their “curiosities” let alone even ADMIT that they are attracted to men or may be attracted to or might be interested trying something to fear. Fear of being rejected, shunned, harassed, beaten, killed, jailed/prisoned, expelled, banned, humiliated, hated, scoffed at, etc. Which is sad to say, but we all know it is what it is. Because I KNOW for a FACT that there are WAYYYYYY more men out there who have either experimented with men or at least thought about it. But most would rather take that to their grave than let it be known to the world. Which at the end of the day is also a personal choice. And for me, there’s nothing wrong with that.

But let me shut up now! I could go all day, so let me wrap it up here! I enjoyed reading everyone’s post on this thread and it compelled me enough to want to share my story/thoughts/opinions on the topic. Looking forward to reading more of my fellow LPSG brothers’ posts on the subject! And if you made it this far, thanks for reading what I have to say!

Cheers fellas!

 

[tedmatel]

For me, I never will understand why today’s generation is so hung up on labels. These days there are SO MANY different new “terms”, some are just laughable & sound completely silly.

For the label lovers, they will label me as Bisexual, which is fine, because I do enjoy having sex with both men and women. Gen it comes to sex and sex alone, I can get down with both. But I will say that I enjoy sex with women more than men (to put a ratio to it I guess I’d say 60% enjoy sex with women 40% with men). However, when it comes to having an emotional/mental connection/attraction, tho it was a journey throughout my teens and my twenties, before I finally realized who I truly AM & what I truly like (now in my mid thirties), I found myself to have “deeper” connections with men more than women the majority of the time.

But here’s my dilemma. Before I go any further, most will now label me as GAY/Homosexual with this additional revelation. But here’s the thing, I don’t know if I can/want to 100% give up having sexual encounters with women. Why? Because though I do enjoy sucking dick, I dont LOVE anal sex (receiving & giving). I have done both, & I do enjoy it, but only on my own terms. When I’m “in the mood” so-to-speak. I tend to prefer vaginal sex over anything else any day. Anal sex comes with a lot of prep work before it gets going, whereas vaginas are “MOSTLY” (but not all or always) readily and easily available for penetration with minimal prep work involved (especially for those that are “wetter” than usual).

Moving on, I am not attracted to trans women. Chicks with dicks is just not sexually or physically attractive to me. BUT, on that note, & this is a more recent self-discovery, I found myself REALLY intrigued and fascinated with TRANS MEN. & honestly? Lately? I’ve been really thinking about experimenting with a Trans Man. Because when I think about it, and based on my revelations described above, it sounds like the PERFECT scenario for me right? Dating a Trans Man would satisfy my need to establish a deeper emotional connection, which I enjoy with men more than women, and then the sexual aspect is satisfied with my desire for vaginal sex as long as the Trans Man hasn’t had and/or doesn’t want/desire to have bottom surgery!

I found myself perusing through a bunch of trans men porn recently which had my imagination running WILD! I picture myself pounding away at a nice warm wet pussy, in missionary position, while looking down at a gorgeous looking man.

Getting a little carried away here so let me get back on track lol. My point is, I am just enjoying living my life as my true authentic self. I like what I like, & since my “likes” are not black and white, I don’t believe I belong to one specific category of people when it comes to sexual attraction, sexuality, or sexual orientation. I am confident and happy with who I am & who I am attracted to and I don’t need a label to make me happy or feel like I “belong”.

And I am in NO WAY knocking anyone who disagrees with this ideation or anyone who likes or needs a label in order to feel that sense of belonging or perhaps need it in order to find themselves & know where they “fit in”. I am just simply sharing my own personal thoughts, feelings, & opinions on the topic and I enjoy hearing/reading the opinions of others especially those that think or believe differently than I do! I am EXTREMELY open minded & welcoming of all walks of life & opinions/ideations, as for me, I believe it helps me grow & become wiser being educated & learning about different things when it comes to….. let’s just say,,, when it comes to “LIFE”.

I’ve been given all sorts of labels from straight with gay tendencies, gay with straight tendencies, bisexual, sexually fluid, pansexual (even though i’m pretty sure I don’t qualify for this label as, to MY understanding, Pansexuals are equally attracted to ALL sexes/genders), duo sexual (is this even a real term??? lol), and the list goes on. I NEVER make my sexual preferences public without being asked. Meaning I don’t ever bring it up in conversation or advertise it in anyway. The only time I’ll reveal any details is if someone asks me straight up. When that happens, I’ll be honest, I always just use the term “bisexual” because with my experience, I have learned that MOST common folk, aren’t educated enough on the topic, or completely against it, or just simply don’t know about all the different preferences when it comes to the topic of sexuality. So, to avoid going into some long drawn out complicated explanation & to avoid puzzled/confused looks and expressions, I just go with a term that most people are familiar of and understand.

Because at the end of the day, my self expression and self identity is solely for MY OWN HAPPINESS & SATISFACTION with MY LIFE. I’m not here to please or cater to anyone else other than myself. So, it doesn’t matter to me what anyone else thinks about me or who I am or what I like or don’t like. Not only is it honestly, none of your business but who I choose to love and/or have sex with in no way shape or form affects YOUR life. You can either accept me for who I am, & if you like my personality and simply like me as a person, then we can be friends! If not, then kick rocks!

Society & the opinions of others, religion, governments, etc. Have shaped the way people think today. After thousands of years and generations upon generations of people, society has made the ability to publicly just be yourself something to fear, whether it’s due to the beliefs of your friends and family, religion, or the laws/governement, etc. It’s not easy to be anything other than a heterosexual in this world. So combined with societies expectations of what a MAN is supposed to be, most men are afraid to act on their “curiosities” let alone even ADMIT that they are attracted to men or may be attracted to or might be interested trying something to fear. Fear of being rejected, shunned, harassed, beaten, killed, jailed/prisoned, expelled, banned, humiliated, hated, scoffed at, etc. Which is sad to say, but we all know it is what it is. Because I KNOW for a FACT that there are WAYYYYYY more men out there who have either experimented with men or at least thought about it. But most would rather take that to their grave than let it be known to the world. Which at the end of the day is also a personal choice. And for me, there’s nothing wrong with that.

But let me shut up now! I could go all day, so let me wrap it up here! I enjoyed reading everyone’s post on this thread and it compelled me enough to want to share my story/thoughts/opinions on the topic. Looking forward to reading more of my fellow LPSG brothers’ posts on the subject! And if you made it this far, thanks for reading what I have to say!

Cheers fellas!

oh cry baby trying to essay his way into self complacency.
It’s not about labels, it’s about what they represent.
Being gay is about men loving men—men with dick btw, loving men with dick, sexually and physically. It is what the movement was about when it first started. When folks call themselves gay, they’re standing up for their rights to love a man (with a dick) as a man (with a dick). Back in the day, that’s what being gay meant, and there’s nothing wrong with that.

And Nothing wrong with you “no label” crowd or the idea behind it. But when you start promoting or forcing or pushing the idea of sexual fluidity, do you know how uncomfortable it can make of gay men who only love and want men? It’s like forcing straight men to be gay. MANY gay men simply don’t want to try with women, nor do they want to try vagina on a trans man, yet people like you try to “push” it by claiming the “no label” victim mentality or try to spread “diversity”. It’s…. Resembling conversion therapy to say the least.

Honestly you be you, but there are men with a dick out there who ONLY want men WITH a dick. These men are gay, and proudly gay. Leave them alone, and they’ll leave you and your whatever sexuality alone.

 

[tedmatel]

For me, I never will understand why today’s generation is so hung up on labels. These days there are SO MANY different new “terms”, some are just laughable & sound completely silly.

For the label lovers, they will label me as Bisexual, which is fine, because I do enjoy having sex with both men and women. Gen it comes to sex and sex alone, I can get down with both. But I will say that I enjoy sex with women more than men (to put a ratio to it I guess I’d say 60% enjoy sex with women 40% with men). However, when it comes to having an emotional/mental connection/attraction, tho it was a journey throughout my teens and my twenties, before I finally realized who I truly AM & what I truly like (now in my mid thirties), I found myself to have “deeper” connections with men more than women the majority of the time.

But here’s my dilemma. Before I go any further, most will now label me as GAY/Homosexual with this additional revelation. But here’s the thing, I don’t know if I can/want to 100% give up having sexual encounters with women. Why? Because though I do enjoy sucking dick, I dont LOVE anal sex (receiving & giving). I have done both, & I do enjoy it, but only on my own terms. When I’m “in the mood” so-to-speak. I tend to prefer vaginal sex over anything else any day. Anal sex comes with a lot of prep work before it gets going, whereas vaginas are “MOSTLY” (but not all or always) readily and easily available for penetration with minimal prep work involved (especially for those that are “wetter” than usual).

Moving on, I am not attracted to trans women. Chicks with dicks is just not sexually or physically attractive to me. BUT, on that note, & this is a more recent self-discovery, I found myself REALLY intrigued and fascinated with TRANS MEN. & honestly? Lately? I’ve been really thinking about experimenting with a Trans Man. Because when I think about it, and based on my revelations described above, it sounds like the PERFECT scenario for me right? Dating a Trans Man would satisfy my need to establish a deeper emotional connection, which I enjoy with men more than women, and then the sexual aspect is satisfied with my desire for vaginal sex as long as the Trans Man hasn’t had and/or doesn’t want/desire to have bottom surgery!

I found myself perusing through a bunch of trans men porn recently which had my imagination running WILD! I picture myself pounding away at a nice warm wet pussy, in missionary position, while looking down at a gorgeous looking man.

Getting a little carried away here so let me get back on track lol. My point is, I am just enjoying living my life as my true authentic self. I like what I like, & since my “likes” are not black and white, I don’t believe I belong to one specific category of people when it comes to sexual attraction, sexuality, or sexual orientation. I am confident and happy with who I am & who I am attracted to and I don’t need a label to make me happy or feel like I “belong”.

And I am in NO WAY knocking anyone who disagrees with this ideation or anyone who likes or needs a label in order to feel that sense of belonging or perhaps need it in order to find themselves & know where they “fit in”. I am just simply sharing my own personal thoughts, feelings, & opinions on the topic and I enjoy hearing/reading the opinions of others especially those that think or believe differently than I do! I am EXTREMELY open minded & welcoming of all walks of life & opinions/ideations, as for me, I believe it helps me grow & become wiser being educated & learning about different things when it comes to….. let’s just say,,, when it comes to “LIFE”.

I’ve been given all sorts of labels from straight with gay tendencies, gay with straight tendencies, bisexual, sexually fluid, pansexual (even though i’m pretty sure I don’t qualify for this label as, to MY understanding, Pansexuals are equally attracted to ALL sexes/genders), duo sexual (is this even a real term??? lol), and the list goes on. I NEVER make my sexual preferences public without being asked. Meaning I don’t ever bring it up in conversation or advertise it in anyway. The only time I’ll reveal any details is if someone asks me straight up. When that happens, I’ll be honest, I always just use the term “bisexual” because with my experience, I have learned that MOST common folk, aren’t educated enough on the topic, or completely against it, or just simply don’t know about all the different preferences when it comes to the topic of sexuality. So, to avoid going into some long drawn out complicated explanation & to avoid puzzled/confused looks and expressions, I just go with a term that most people are familiar of and understand.

Because at the end of the day, my self expression and self identity is solely for MY OWN HAPPINESS & SATISFACTION with MY LIFE. I’m not here to please or cater to anyone else other than myself. So, it doesn’t matter to me what anyone else thinks about me or who I am or what I like or don’t like. Not only is it honestly, none of your business but who I choose to love and/or have sex with in no way shape or form affects YOUR life. You can either accept me for who I am, & if you like my personality and simply like me as a person, then we can be friends! If not, then kick rocks!

Society & the opinions of others, religion, governments, etc. Have shaped the way people think today. After thousands of years and generations upon generations of people, society has made the ability to publicly just be yourself something to fear, whether it’s due to the beliefs of your friends and family, religion, or the laws/governement, etc. It’s not easy to be anything other than a heterosexual in this world. So combined with societies expectations of what a MAN is supposed to be, most men are afraid to act on their “curiosities” let alone even ADMIT that they are attracted to men or may be attracted to or might be interested trying something to fear. Fear of being rejected, shunned, harassed, beaten, killed, jailed/prisoned, expelled, banned, humiliated, hated, scoffed at, etc. Which is sad to say, but we all know it is what it is. Because I KNOW for a FACT that there are WAYYYYYY more men out there who have either experimented with men or at least thought about it. But most would rather take that to their grave than let it be known to the world. Which at the end of the day is also a personal choice. And for me, there’s nothing wrong with that.

But let me shut up now! I could go all day, so let me wrap it up here! I enjoyed reading everyone’s post on this thread and it compelled me enough to want to share my story/thoughts/opinions on the topic. Looking forward to reading more of my fellow LPSG brothers’ posts on the subject! And if you made it this far, thanks for reading what I have to say!

Cheers fellas!

Not to mention, being gay a lot of times means being anti-heteronormative and not succumbing to social pressure. But then there’s you “no-label” crowds who probably only choose to not label yourselves just so you could find the reason to live a heteronormative life with the opposite sex because it’s easier, even if that means settling down with the 2nd or 3rd choice. Completely thwarting the life for gay men gay activists have fought for since the Victorian era. Not to mention how easily this no label thing can be weaponized as “being gay is a choice” by homophobes.