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I'm only 7.0" L x 5.5" girth, nowhere near the really large girth of some of the guys mentioned in this thread that are 6.5" girth, but my GF has also gotten small hairline tears outside of her vaginal opening (where bottom of labia majora meet) right between her vagina and anus.

1) She is very wet (one of the wettest girls I've had) and I get her fully aroused with oral/foreplay, so that is not the issue.
2) She has an average to larger than avg size vagina, so that is not the issue. I've gotten 4 fingers & inside with the help of lube, and there has been no tearing.
3) Neither is lack of lube, as we've tried good amounts of that as well.
4) And neither is being rough - as it can happen sometimes when not being rough.

The tears are very small, almost like a papercut that just cuts the top layer of the skin. It hurts her like hell though, and we have to stop sometimes.

Do a search on vaginal tears, and you'll see it's an issue for plenty of women of all ages, sizes, shapes, etc. - and quite often even after medical advice and care it still happens. As Mademoiselle Rouge mentioned, it can happen to some women just from everyday activities like wiping. Some women are just more prone to it.

though your length and girth are just above average , your head has a kinda challenging width, maybe that could explain the tears... but my opionion is she was having a yeast infection when it happend. Such infection are likely to predispose the vulva to bleeding
 

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I had two partners many years ago who experienced small, superficial, painful tears near the vaginal introitus at the posterior fourchette. At the time my base girth was probably around 5.75".

These tended to follow vigorous intercourse. The women did not experience pain during sex, only after, and they frequently had some spotting till these healed which usually took 3-5 days. I don't believe these women had experienced this problem with other men but I don't recall for sure whether they told me that or not. There was no association with yeast infections nor do I remember either of these women having vaginitis while I was with them.
 

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I don't know what to tell you, but none of this makes sense.

Actually it's very normal for a percentage of women on the planet.

You might consider a different, more compassionate, informed gynecologist .

I've seen about 15 of them.

The area you're talking about is the perineum, the area where the episiotomy is preformed. This can tear with any childbirth.
Episiotomy just insures more even tear, which is easier to repair. Usually one or 2 sutures.

You know very little about childbirth. I have helped deliver many babies and was pre-med student to be a Gynecological surgeon and many women require far more than 1 or 2 stitches with an episiotomy. An episiotomy is easier to repair but not all women need it because they won't tear at all. It was used in days past to ensure the pushing phase happened more quickly so the physician didn't have to wait for the babies head to knead the perineal tissues to help prevent tearing.

Why you had a c section, I don't know. It is the pelvis that we are concerned about when giving birth, and if baby's head can pass through that, then mom has a natural vaginal delivery. (excluding multiples) Not the vagina.

You really need to do your research. I was in labor 33 hours with a 6 pound baby that was STUCK in my pelvis and needed help getting back out from the c-section opening.

Bleeding that you discribe is not normal. I'd imagine you'd experience a lot of infections.

No I don't experience infections from it. It's a hairline tear like when you split your lips when they are chapped and it bleeds a little but hurts like hell.

The fourchette is at the bottom of the vagina,the perineal area. It is also an area the some women have piercing done. It can be delicate,especially with a piercing.

Very few genital piercings are done in the fourchette area because most women don't have a large enough piece of skin to pierce. But I would and it doesn't stretch easily. Is that difficult to understand? I've also had two genital piercings so I'm quite familiar with my anatomy.

You may have a fourchette fissure. Some times treated with hormonal creams or surgery. Try to find a vulvar specialist .
You could also contact the national vulvodynia association to see if they have any docs in your area.

I don't have vulvodynia.

You need to be in contact with a doctor who knows about these bleeding episodes so that if you did develop an infection, it could be treated before it goes to other areas of your body.

I don't have bleeding episodes.

All in all, this could happen to any woman. It is the nature of the female body, we do seem to have more medical problems.

I'm quite in touch with all areas of my body. I've had 9 surgeries and 5 in the last year on various body parts and I'm 7 weeks post total abdominal hysterectomy.

In cases where the fourchette tears very easily, it is not the fault of the male, or his size. No guilt there. Anything could cause pain or bleeding, including tampons or vaginal exams. I would pursue this though.

Actually it is the fault of having a tight vaginal opening and he is very girthy. I had no issues with this until 1998 when we met and when I have sex with other people who aren't as girthy I don't tear.

I would suggest you pursue another hobby because you sound completely clueless. You go into crap like systemic infections, how all pelvises are built to give birth, bleeding episodes (really now?) as if I have something major going on with my vagina when I don't.

It's these kinds of responses that make women afraid to go to their doctors about it when I've been quite open with mine since I was a teenager. You probably instill a lot of unnecessary fear in women all the time. Not to mention placing little concern on how a penis can affect the vagina in a traumatic way. Tisk Tisk!

In the end you say it can be very normal with vaginal exams and what not, so how do you know my vagina doesn't tear easily with vaginal exams and with sex? Sex is far more traumatic to the vaginal tissues than sliding a small speculum in the vagina for a quick view.

I also might throw in there that I had my urethra surgically dilated when I was 17 because it is too small. Like everything else between my legs. But no doctor has been shocked by my experience with sex and in the genito-urinary region because they've seen it before and realize a percentage of the female population is naturally smaller than average.
 
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Also I'd like to add that for a nurse midwife/ob gyn nurse if you aren't aware that some women are built a lot smaller than others and can/do tear and some require smaller tools and cocks can hurt the vagina tissues and bruise the urethra (the list goes on and on) then I'm sorely disappointed. No pun intended.

Not all vaginas are built for birth. Not all vaginas are built for larger cock comfortably without presenting with some indication of pain, swelling or bleeding. Yes, this means every time for many many years. There is no surgery to fix a smaller than average vagina on an otherwise normal woman.

I found LPSG because of these issues and I stay here because more men and women need to be told these things because unless someone speaks up no one believes it happens all over bedrooms across the planet.
 

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not enough women in the world know what ^ knows when it comes to their anatomy. makes me wish school education was more into what really mattered and less about trying to prep the population to be blind to the world outside and inside
 

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Actually it is the fault of having a tight vaginal opening and he is very girthy. I had no issues with this until 1998 when we met and when I have sex with other people who aren't as girthy I don't tear.

I would suggest you pursue another hobby because you sound completely clueless. You go into crap like systemic infections, how all pelvises are built to give birth, bleeding episodes (really now?) as if I have something major going on with my vagina when I don't.

It's these kinds of responses that make women afraid to go to their doctors about it when I've been quite open with mine since I was a teenager. You probably instill a lot of unnecessary fear in women all the time. Not to mention placing little concern on how a penis can affect the vagina in a traumatic way. Tisk Tisk!

In the end you say it can be very normal with vaginal exams and what not, so how do you know my vagina doesn't tear easily with vaginal exams and with sex? Sex is far more traumatic to the vaginal tissues than sliding a small speculum in the vagina for a quick view.

I also might throw in there that I had my urethra surgically dilated when I was 17 because it is too small. Like everything else between my legs. But no doctor has been shocked by my experience with sex and in the genito-urinary region because they've seen it before and realize a percentage of the female population is naturally smaller than average.

do you usually have sex with other people besides your hubby ?
 

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not enough women in the world know what ^ knows when it comes to their anatomy. makes me wish school education was more into what really mattered and less about trying to prep the population to be blind to the world outside and inside
It is odd how uneducated people are regarding some relatively important topics like this, so it makes me wonder why it's not taught when a small amount of stuff that is taught is utter garbage and/or useless.
 

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though your length and girth are just above average , your head has a kinda challenging width, maybe that could explain the tears... but my opionion is she was having a yeast infection when it happend. Such infection are likely to predispose the vulva to bleeding

It was not a yeast infection. She & I are educated and experienced enought to know if she had a yeast infection. There was no bleeding, just a very small laceration.

What I was describing was a very small laceration (maybe < 1/4" long) to the epidermis (superficial layer of skin) of the frenulum labiorum pudendi (aka the fourchette), where the labia meet posteriorly.

She has an average to above average/larger vagina, including the introitus (opening/entrance) - it's never wrapped/pulled tightly around my shaft, as it has with some other women.

The small laceration hasn't always happened, nor does it always happen. The first time was maybe ~ 1.5 yrs ago after vigorous/rough sex, which she's into. Since then, I've purposely been very careful and aware of the force and angle of my thrusts. Subsequent laceerations to the epidermis haven't been due to rough sex, so I'm guessing as Mademoiselle Rouge mentioned the area is probably now more prone to tearing due to the formation of scar tissue in that area.

- Laceration = jagged wound or cut; a wound produced by the tearing of body tissue, as distinguished from a cut or incision
- frenulum labiorum pudendi (fourchette) = where the labia meet posteriorly
 

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Yeah, you are describing precisely what I experienced with a couple of women and reported earlier in this thread, and in others. In my case, however, the two women were definitely on the "snugger" side although not so much so that we had any problem with penetration whatsoever, but they were what I think most guys would have described as "tight" (in a pleasant way). The bleeding was never prominent but they did tend to have a bit of spotting for a day or so.

And after I became aware of the problem I did everything I could to avoid it, because every time it happened it meant no nookie for about 5 days. It was often the women who became a bit too frisky during sex rather than me.

Neither of them had ever given birth but I suspect that any woman who had undergone an episiotomy might well have more friable epidermis overlying the scar that would be more prone to laceration.
 

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do you usually have sex with other people besides your hubby ?

I've had plenty of sexual partners before my husband to know when and where the problems started as far as girth. I have had sex since getting married with another guy that was smaller and it didn't hurt. Now I'm addicted to smaller cock because I physically enjoy it so much more.