Jerking off with other guys
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I don't think anything is weird, maybe not my cup of tea, but not weird. I don't do it and never had an urge to do it. I would jerk off for another person if the situation was hot, but not just a circle jerk scenario.
Got that right. This absurd notion of bifurcating everything when most things aren't that clear cut has caused a great deal of harm in the world.
That's my whole point: "borderline." is there any real meaning to deciding that one activity is "gay" and another that is slightly like it but different is "slightly" gay? Does it matter?
I think what we're dealing with is being "homosocial." (Google it.)
Guys have certain kinds of attractions to other guys, not necessarily sexual, of course. So it's perfectly possible to jerk off with your buddy and not have it be all that sexual in nature.
See fratpad.com
Not too late!
Go to New York Jacks and look for jack off clubs in your town.
or Come to NYC on Sun afternoons or Tues eves for jack off club action.
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Its not weird to do a lot of things haha, do what you feel comfortable doing. speaking in a technical way , wanking with other guys is a homosexual act, but doesnt necessarily make you gay or bi person if you already identify as a str8 male. If you enjoy the presence of other men being naked and stroking their cocks along with you and it sexually arouses you, then yeah technically you have a gay side to you haha, it all comes down to how you want to identify. if you like pussy and dick your bi, if you just like dick you're gay 
, sexuality is far more complex than that but you get the point.
, sexuality is far more complex than that but you get the point.Not just you! Lots of guys like the bonding of this.Understandable, in my opinion.
I've never done it but I've always wondered about it, I enjoy watching guys jerk off online so why not try it out for real. I've never had interest in sex with a man, I enjoy vagina too much to go back on her. Wouldn't mind having a spontaneous jerk session in a sauna or something.
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There is a difference between jerking off with your buds and straight up jerking off your buds but seriously, do what the fuck you wanna do.
This whole "this is gay/no this is gay" debate is redundant, ain't it? If you are, you are. If you're not, you're not. Move on
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This whole "this is gay/no this is gay" debate is redundant, ain't it? If you are, you are. If you're not, you're not. Move on
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Where the fuck do you guys get this shit?!
:thinking:Jerk off = Masturbation = the SEXUAL stimulation of one's own genitals, usually to the point of orgasm.
Gay = Homosexual = romantic attraction, SEXUAL attraction, or SEXUAL BEHAVIOR between members of the same sex or gender.
It's like you're all looking for some "straight" loophole...
White is WHITE... any amount, no matter how infinitesimal, of adulterant...and you no longer have WHITE. you may have "off" white, or eggshell, or pearl etc...but it's no longer WHITE. It's a FORM OF WHITE...but not PURE WHITE! Arguing this is just attempting to change definitions to make yourself feel better about the truth.
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"White is WHITE... any amount, no matter how infinitesimal, of adulterant...and you no longer have WHITE. you may have "off" white, or eggshell, or pearl etc...but it's no longer WHITE. It's a FORM OF WHITE...but not PURE WHITE! Arguing this is just attempting to change definitions to make yourself feel better about the truth."
so someone who says they are 99% straight is not really straight at all? That 1% that snuck in there means they have to identify as non-straight (or I guess as you say "gay")??? What's the point in having percentages at all? According to you it is very rigid... you are either straight (never once had a gay thought, fantasy, dream, it never "moved" when you had a massage from a guy, etc) or you are gay. Sorry, but I disagree.
so someone who says they are 99% straight is not really straight at all? That 1% that snuck in there means they have to identify as non-straight (or I guess as you say "gay")??? What's the point in having percentages at all? According to you it is very rigid... you are either straight (never once had a gay thought, fantasy, dream, it never "moved" when you had a massage from a guy, etc) or you are gay. Sorry, but I disagree.
Can't be mad at you for saying what you said because you may have not read any of my other posts in other threads.
But, for future references...there's a gray area... It's called bi. Bisexual is a REAL term.
Do I need to break down all the intricacies of the word BIsexual? Or do you get where I'm going?
I think the issue here is that when we come to try to define limits on things that are fluid, we run into problems. Here's an analogy. If the window is cracked half in inch, is it an open window or a closed one? One might say that "closed" means "100% closed," and therefore it's an open window, you could make an argument for that. But then one might say, "it's 99% closed"so does calling it "open" make any sense? It depends on how the word is used.
If you were to pluck out the hair of a man one at a time, at some point he would be "balding," but where that point is would be difficult to discern.
Hence, jacking off with your bud may be sexual in one sense, as you point out. It's sexual stimulation of your sexual organ, enhanced, we presume, by the presence of someone who turns you on. But you only have to ask people about jerking off with a buddy in their teens or later to find that it's not necessarily sexual the way a sexual act between self-proclaimed homosexuals is. As one friend of mine put it, "Jerking off with Bill in 8th grade doesn't make you gay."
The sexual focus could be on oneself, or the other guy(s), or both. But this difference in focus makes a difference in experience and so may deserve a different label. Of course, having said this, i find that labels are not terribly helpful or accurate; it's just that we naturally think that way.
In the end, jerk off with whomever you want to; that's the message!
I'm just gonna start fucking drawing pictures for you all....cause words don't seem to work.... SO here...
{Hairy}-------->------>-----Balding>------->------>---------{Bald}
Hairy = Lots of hair
Balding = Losing hair over time
Bald = No hair
{Straight}->---->---->----->----->---BI---->------>------->-------{Gay}
There may be a guy in the underlined area ( about 70% straight) Guess what....he's fucking bi.
And the window analogy is just stupid. If a window is CRACKED...it's just that...CRACKED. Not fully open, not fully closed. There's no term (that I know of) for a partially open window. SO someone who calls a "cracked" window open...would be right. Calling a window thats "cracked" closed....would just be flat fucking wrong.
Discerning when guy is balding isn't hard. When the hair starts to fall out...he's balding. Just because he doesn't notice...doesn't mean he's not balding...
And just because he can't come to terms with losing his hair doesn't mean he can just change the meanings of those words to mean whatever the fuck will make him feel better. Bald...is bald...period. Straight is a term men, who only have sexual contact with women, use to identify themselves. Using that term when you DON'T follow that meaning....is flat out bullshit.
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ummm, on your little illustration of the sexuality spectrum, you are wrong... the highlighted portion is somewhere between straight and BI...i.e. neither straight nor bisexual. Sexuality is a non-tangible thing that has absolutes, but not everyone can be classified as one of these absolutes (Straight, BI, Gay). Everyone is different and enjoys different things. What they choose to define themselves (if they even choose to do so) is their business, not mine, not yours, not anyone elses'. If some people are happy with labels then let them adhere to those labels. Get over it NC_BBC. I tried to tell you that you wouldn't win this argument...but instead of letting it go an accepting that not everyone shares the same views as you (and I'm not saying anyone is right, including you and I), you just keep this argument going. Move on man...
If me continuing my debate is troubling YOU so much...leave the fucking thread and avoid any other threads where you see I've posted. Period. Otherwise stop bitching about me responding to posts...and just continue the debate. THAT choice is yours.
As far as the illustration goes....I put the arrows in the wrong direction. My bad. Still haven't gotten the hang of perfection yet...
My point is/was....everything between those 2 absolutes...is bi. Period. Substantiate your claim that it isn't...and we'll talk...otherwise...be gone with you.I never said there's something wrong with that post. Read the bolded part again pl0x.
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