Straight men have gay fantasies.

[twoton]

Same sex fantasies common among straight men - National Sexual Health | Examiner.com

If it's on the interwebz, it must be true.

Basically, for me, if there's not a woman involved there's not a fantasy.

 

[TheNorsemen]

No, it's not the same: some very gay men have an aversion to women's bodies, and thus will never really fantasize about women. Straight men, for the most part, are not repulsed by the male body as they have are male themselves. So, men will have some degree of physical attraction to other males for this very reason (jealousy, big penis dominance, etc.)

This sounds like a load of bull. Straight Men aren't capable of being repulsed by the male body or pesonality but gays magicaly are? You're talking to one of them. I actually don't see how women put up with us sometimes. I would chose a female roommate over male any day. As a male, and having mostly male friends, i can say we're pretty fucking disgusting on average not just the things we do but say, completely unapealing. Your logic also falls flat on its face, because women share this same jealousy amongst each other perhaps even more than men, doesn't make them secret lesbians.

 

[BIGBULL29]

I have never actually heard this argument before. I am quite intrigued, and how it fits into my thinking of hegemonic masculinity. Does this simply mean that penis size can be added to that list of things that defines the "ideal" found above the entire vertical system? I'm surprised that hadn't actually occurred to me before now...

If I described something incorrectly here about the concepts I specify, please let me know. It was unintentional, as I responded her quite quickly.

It may be that Ron Jeremy's gross physicality legitimizes overt "big dick" respect from straights. If he were handsome, it'd appear too gay. It sort of shows you how much men have porn stud crushes, and how much importance men really place of penis size.

When I was in college, all I heard about was Ron Jeremy's big cock and Peter North's impressive cumshots + big dick.

Interestingly, Peter North - a legendary porn stud- has made gay and bi porn; but straights will let his big genitals and cumshots to trump his non-pussy past. It is as if a man can redeem himself from gay stains if he can somehow prove himself a major stud in T & A porn.

 

[TheNorsemen]

I doubt most straights outside the internet even knows about Peter North's gay porn past. Its not like straights look this stuff up. I think some of you have been on the internet a little too long.

Gay porn is mainstream but not exactly mainstream in the same way that straight porn is. If you ask the average straight about porn they will ofcourse list: Realitykings, Brazzers, NaughtyAmerica etc. Anything outside of these 3 the average straight outside of the net (American atleast) is unaware about.

 

[BIGBULL29]

This sounds like a load of bull. Straight Men aren't capable of being repulsed by the male body or pesonality but gays magicaly are? You're talking to one of them. I actually don't see how women put up with us sometimes. I would chose a female roommate over male any day. As a male, and having mostly male friends, i can say we're pretty fucking disgusting on average not just the things we do but say, completely unapealing. Your logic also falls flat on its face, because women share this same jealousy amongst each other perhaps even more than men, doesn't make them secret lesbians.

So how does of all of this make it that most men have an aversion to their own bodies and penises?

Women are more jealous than men? Since when?

Jealously of someone of the same gender makes you a secret gay or lesbian? When did I say this?

 

[BIGBULL29]

I doubt most straights outside the internet even knows about Peter North's gay porn past. Its not like straights look this stuff up. I think some of you have been on the internet a little too long.

Gay porn is mainstream but not exactly mainstream in the same way that straight porn is. If you ask the average straight about porn they will ofcourse list: Realitykings, Brazzers, NaughtyAmerica etc. Anything outside of these 3 the average straight outside of the net (American atleast) is unaware about.

Most straight men are clueless about Peter North's gay past? It's pretty common knowledge.

In general, straight men in the US are only aware of three different porn websites online?

trans porn movies have been ranked at times in the top 10 best sellers Gamelink.com. Someone's liking to suck dick in the straight world.:biggrin1:

The internet has made it that straight men can't lie about who they are sexually anymore. No, I am not making the claim that all men are gay/bi and secretly want husbands and boyfriends more than wives and girlfriends. But what I am saying is, is that straight men are not completely dipped in hetero ketchup.

 

[Smaccoms]

Did I say you weren't? No. That would be putting words in my mouth. You also avoided everything that I actually and perceived it as an attack on you.

I did not avoid anything you said, you simply cannot put two and two together.

Your original response was to say my entire post was false and immature, and you want to say that isn't an attack? Phrasing an insult with polite language doesn't change the fact that it's an insult. On to of that, you didn't even respond to my arguments; you simply referred to the whole thing with negativity. That tells me your goal is not to have a level discussion with me, but to refute my arguments no matter the situation.

I get the feeling you are attempting to get a rise out of me just so you can use that as an excuse to ignore my arguments. I believe the term is "troll"?

Though you haven't directed stated it, your arguments seem to agree with believing in the gender binary. It is impossible to discuss multisexuality with someone who believes the entire world is split only between two genders.

Nice try, but you do not appear to be worth the time it takes for my to fully iterate my arguments.

 

[Smaccoms]

No, it's not the same: some very gay men have an aversion to women's bodies, and thus will never really fantasize about women. Straight men, for the most part, are not repulsed by the male body as they have are male themselves. So, men will have some degree of physical attraction to other males for this very reason (jealousy, big penis dominance, etc.)

The ruling elite gives gay men a material basis to develop an aversion to the female form. It helps divide the working class even more, so I can definitely believe our social structure would want to turn it into a "thing".

Personally, I think being repulsed by the human form is developed socially and not something which we could term "natural". Humans are empathetic creatures, and so our ability to relate and understand other humans means being attracted to those humans in some form.

I find it foolish to try to categorize different kinds of attraction; nature rarely deals with clear cut dichotomies. I believe there are hundreds of different ways humans can be attracted to one another, and that these different forms of attractions interact with one another to create the relationships we develop with people in our lives. This is why no two relationships are exactly identical. This is also why I believe the majority of the human population is pansexual. If two or more people have a mutual attraction, I believe it is possible to develop that attraction into any area. This involves a sexual or romantic attraction.

The primary point here is that humans are empathetic and sexual creatures. If there is an attraction, empathy and sex is possible. The determining factor is that mutual attraction. This is what I'm exploring in my life right now. It really forces you to really explore what a relationship is and how it works. Thus far in my life, it has only led me to brilliance and revelations.

Hurrah for pansexuality!!

 

[twoton]

Most straight men are clueless about Peter North's gay past? It's pretty common knowledge.

I didn't know until now. :frown1:

 

[Amaethon]

I did not avoid anything you said, you simply cannot put two and two together.

Your original response was to say my entire post was false and immature, and you want to say that isn't an attack? Phrasing an insult with polite language doesn't change the fact that it's an insult. On to of that, you didn't even respond to my arguments; you simply referred to the whole thing with negativity. That tells me your goal is not to have a level discussion with me, but to refute my arguments no matter the situation.

I get the feeling you are attempting to get a rise out of me just so you can use that as an excuse to ignore my arguments. I believe the term is "troll"?

Though you haven't directed stated it, your arguments seem to agree with believing in the gender binary. It is impossible to discuss multisexuality with someone who believes the entire world is split only between two genders.

Nice try, but you do not appear to be worth the time it takes for my to fully iterate my arguments.

Ugh, someone presumes much. It sounds like you're mostly a drama queen, really. You clearly ignored what I said and perceived it to be a personal attack. I said it's immature because that's how I feel about you're argument.

Now for a real insult towards you: I think you're acting like a little over-dramatizing #@!!*%.

 

[Smaccoms]

Ugh, someone presumes much. It sounds like you're mostly a drama queen, really. You clearly ignored what I said and perceived it to be a personal attack. I said it's immature because that's how I feel about you're argument.

Now for a real insult towards you: I think you're acting like a little over-dramatizing #@!!*%.

You haven't properly responded to me as of yet. You kept the same argument form your last post, which I already disproved. On top of that, you added more insults.

Somehow, this formula apparently means I'm the drama queen?

...

I am finished responding to you. Have fun with your insults.

I would like to reiterate that I hope you find happiness, whatever that means to you. It's definitely better to spread love rather than hate. Yay!

 

[Amaethon]

You haven't properly responded to me as of yet. You kept the same argument form your last post, which I already disproved. On top of that, you added more insults.

Somehow, this formula apparently means I'm the drama queen?

...

I am finished responding to you. Have fun with your insults.

I would like to reiterate that I hope you find happiness, whatever that means to you. It's definitely better to spread love rather than hate. Yay!

Have fun with your delusions, dude.

 

[sbat]

Well now that that's settled, I guess I'll have to divorce my wife and start spending more time on the other side of the Bay Bridge

 

[BIGBULL29]

Well now that that's settled, I guess I'll have to divorce my wife and start spending more time on the other side of the Bay Bridge

Not sure you may qualify.:biggrin1: You need more than gay fantasies and liking penis (which you have yourself) to be gay. Sorry to burst your bubble.:biggrin1:

 

[Smaccoms]

^^^ugh, multisexuality is so much more satisfying than your silly monosexual discussions. SO over that!!

Yall look like some kids on a playground laughing about that old tire swing...to the left, or the right?

tehe tehe...

 

[BIGBULL29]

^^^ugh, multisexuality is so much more satisfying than your silly monosexual discussions. SO over that!!

Yall look like some kids on a playground laughing about that old tire swing...to the left, or the right?

tehe tehe...

Please don't include me, sir. I was just playing the 100% straight, 100% for sanity.:biggrin1: Some of our posters live solely in monosexuality - I have to come down to that world for civility's sake; otherwise I will get crucified.

 

[rbkwp]

or
firm believers in the tired old Kinsey Report
(what year did that come out again?)

 

[Smaccoms]

Please don't include me, sir. I was just playing the 100% straight, 100% for sanity.:biggrin1: Some of our posters live solely in monosexuality - I have to come down to that world for civility's sake; otherwise I will get crucified.

I guess I wasn't being completely serious. Yes, I do believe in multisexuality. I have to learn how tostand on my own though, cause no one has ver really even heard of it.

Thus, I'm chillaxin. Your cool, I'm cool, we all chill yall!!

 

[BIGBULL29]

I guess I wasn't being completely serious. Yes, I do believe in multisexuality. I have to learn how tostand on my own though, cause no one has ver really even heard of it.

Thus, I'm chillaxin. Your cool, I'm cool, we all chill yall!!

I am pansexual, too. Now suck my dick.:biggrin1:

 

[rbkwp]

confusexual here
no likee suck / be sucked cock us people
prefer HJ only ...
its just our thing!