Watching porn and respecting women

[RansfordRowe]

Can you enjoy porn and still respect women.Seeing them as equals.I believe you can but what do you all think.

 

[TexanStar]

Can you enjoy porn and still respect women.Seeing them as equals.I believe you can but what do you all think.

Sure. I don't think finding people or scenarios sexually arousing is inherently disrespectful.

I do think there are genres of porn that cater to men who disrespect women, but that's a subset, not all of porn in general.

 

[Guy-jin]

Of course you can. The problem with porn is that a lot of people objectify women they meet in real life just like they do the ones they see in porn. As long as you recognize that porn is fake and that there's an actual human being behind the tits and ass you meet in real life, you're fine.

That said, I've met women who feel strongly that men who watch porn are inherently objectifying women at all times. I guess my response to that is... Yeah, they probably are internally, but as long as it doesn't affect how they treat women externally, what's the problem?

In other words, if I see a gorgeous woman, I might think, "man, I'd like to fuck her," but I wouldn't treat her like an object in real life because I recognize she's a human being and deserves the same respect we all do.

 

[Serial Kisser]

How is this a women's issue ? If you - a male - are having issues respecting women - isn't that YOUR male issue?

 

[AlteredEgo]

This is totally a women's issue. It is about whether or not women are treated differently because men view porn. It is about whether or not porn is inherently harmful to women .

 

[Guy-jin]

How is this a women's issue ? If you - a male - are having issues respecting women - isn't that YOUR male issue?

Seriously?

 

[Brisler]

Remember that NOTHING is a women's issue.

 

[Serial Kisser]

Whether or not a male can do something has nothing to do with a woman.

 

[Brisler]

So if a man discriminates against a woman, that has nothing to do with a woman?

The attempts at shutting down half the threads in this section is getting extremely tiresome, especially when the subject is obviously relevant and placed in the right section... It's totally fine that the subject isn't something that interests you, but that certainly doesn't mean that it isn't relevant.

 

[1g5463]

I think porn could be seen as too much of an umbrella term that emcompasses many different genres.

The more vanilla types outwardly don't seem to have an issue with objectifying women so much. But than again its primary purpose is to convey meaningful and loving sex within a somewhat realistic framework. Hence, for most people, this would not entail portrayals of women are submissive and merely objects of our own whims and desires.

Whereas, genres such as gonzo and to an extent BDSM seemingly take a much more objectifying view of women that deems them disposable and lesser to men. I know this isn't absolute but generally speaking it is like that. Rocco Siffredi is often criticised for degrading women. His (in)famous scene being flushing Sydney Lamours head down the toilet. Of course consent was probably given but for many who watch it and base their view of sex merely on that then it is expected that a more objectify view of women would be used.

Luckily, many if not most male viewers know porn is not real life and does not reflect gender relations at all . So compartmentalisation is possible. So in response, I'm sure many who watch porn I'm everyday life treat women as their equals but use porn as a source of fantasy.

 

[temptotalk]

Of course but i have to ask. Who was this directed to? Cause it would seem you've caused a little confusion with your wording OP.

 

[Guy-jin]

Remember that NOTHING is a women's issue.

The objectification of women by men clearly isn't something that concerns women. Men should discuss among themselves how and when to objectify women and then tell the women what they've decided! Obviously!

 

[cuthroat_8.5X6.5]

if im watching porn and stroking my cock then its a sign of my respect for that woman, that she is able to have such an effect on my mind and body without even being there. its a massive thing

 

[TexanStar]

"Can you enjoy porn and still respect women?" was the question asked, and taken literally, I can see how that could be said to not be a woman's issue any more than "Can you stick out your tongue and touch your nose?"

But I think that question implies a broader set of questions, such as "Are there types of porn that, when consumed regularly, lead to a loss of respect or of respectful treatment of women? How popular is this kind of porn? In what circumstances does it become problematic? Etc." And I think there are discussions that could be had around those secondary questions that are women's issues.

Of course, you'll also still get replies that read "I respect women by strokin mah dick", but on this site, what're you gonna do

 

[Guy-jin]

The topic is whether or not people can maintain respect for women despite watching porn. It's about as on-the-nose a women's issue as I've seen on this forum, especially considering this site's large pornography focus.

 

[TexanStar]

The topic is whether or not people can maintain respect for women despite watching porn. It's about as on-the-nose a women's issue as I've seen on this forum, especially considering this site's large pornography focus.

I'm just saying that I can see where SK is coming from if one takes a very literal approach to the question asked, and spending the whole thread arguing about the validity of this as a women's issue is the less interesting discussion to have

 

[EllieP]

I hate even discussing porn because it is such a deep issue, and if you see a double-entendre in that phrase then it's already affected you. Porn becomes so internalized in some people that it's hard for them to sometimes distinguish fantasy from reality.

Now that it's so pervasive and easily attainable true sex education has never before been so necessary. Learning intimacy from porn is like expecting your Big Mac to look like the one in the ad.

 

[Betty_Cocker]

Can you enjoy porn and still respect women.Seeing them as equals.I believe you can but what do you all think.

I agree with Ellie on the need to vamp up sex education and I personally think that internet access to sexuality should be a discussed topic.

To answer the OP, there are too many variables, but the primary one is depending on the person watching the porn and his initial view of women in the first place.

1~ How often is it watched (an obsession or addiction might indicate a lack of REAL female interaction, and this could really impact the guy's thoughts about women in general
2~ What types of porn are watched (there are actually some very sensual flicks, but hard to find. Much of the current porn trend is degrading to women.)
3~ Is porn the man's primary source of sexual satisfaction (same comment as #1.)
4~All women are not porn stars (in fact very few are)
5~Porn does not reflect real life ... it is a snippet that probably took many hours to produce with cameras, a director and lighting involved... Do you really wanna have sex that way?

If porn is a shared activity between the man and his female partner as part of foreplay, I see nothing wrong with it. As long as it is consensual and entertaining for both partied.

If it is something that consumes the guy's time (and even an addict will deny that it does) I can see how it could really harm a relationship and in fact, cause the guy to disrespect women, in general. (Like looking at a woman and when you see her, all you see is T&A)

My dollar's worth~

 

[ronin001]

Watching Porn and Respecting women.
I think a man can watch porn either alone or with a female and not be negatively affected in his view of what is reality and what is fantasy. Some Porn sexual activities are just for entertainment purposes. However if a man watches XXX Hardcore ( triple penetration ) then wants to try that with he is viewing with his Girl Friend I would say that he has stepped over the line of respect

Porn is not real, It is only when a person starts to think of it as being real, that his value of women as persons and his level of respect will decline.

The original poster did not indicate if it was a man or a woman doing the viewing. Yes women do view porn alone and with their partners.

PS: Lesbians also watch female porn

 

[Betty_Cocker]

You said it much better than I did , Ronin.