women do not squirt.

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I have this toy...and I <3 it. njoy: pure/fun

It hasn't made me squirt (yet) ...but I might bring it with me the next time I'm with someone special so we can play with it.

The first time my wife squirted took quite a while. I was at work and she decided to have some special time with this toy. Gradually it's become easier and easier (still with this toy) and day before yesterday, in the shwer, it took her about 2 minutes to squirt.
 

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Female ejaculation as portrayed doesn&#8217;t exist, the gushing of a large amount of fluid is, and can only be, loss of bladder control during orgasm. The paraurethral gland does contain a small amount of fluid which can be ejaculated, but what we see in porn, and what most women talk about simply isn&#8217;t this.

There is a quite understandable reluctance on the part of women to admit they&#8217;re peeing themselves during orgasm, and with the popularisation of &#8216;squirting&#8217; in pornography a desire to be seen as one of the cool women who does this. However, anyone who really believes Cythera isn&#8217;t just pissing herself really needs to take another look at her videos and ask themselves where is that coming from? Apply some common sense and the basics of anatomy.

Psychiatrist Helen Singer Kaplan stated;[45]
Female ejaculation (as distinct from female urination during orgasm) has never been scientifically substantiated and is highly questionable, to say the least.
(Kaplan HS. The Evaluation of Sexual Disorders: Psychological and Medical Aspects. Routledge 1983)

The discussion entered popular culture in 1982 with the publication of the bestselling The G Spot and Other Recent Discoveries About Human Sexuality, by Ladas, Whipple, and Perry.[59] The book discussed female ejaculation and brought the issue back into discussions of women's sexuality both in the medical community and among the general public.[10][60][61] This was a popular account of three papers by the authors, the previous year, at the suggestion of Alice Khan Ladas.[40][41][42] Rebecca Chalker notes that this book was largely met with scorn, skepticism and disbelief.[10] The chapter on 'Female Ejaculation' is largely based on anecdotal testimony, and illustrates another issue in the debate, the weight placed on anecdotes and small numbers of observations rather than biomedical investigation or clinical trials. Importantly, a number of the women stated that they had been diagnosed with urinary incontinence. However, women claiming to have ejaculations who have agreed to urethral catheterization prior to intercourse expelled large volumes of urine through the catheter at orgasm. Davidson's study of 1,289 women found that the sensation of ejaculation was very similar to that of urination.[3]

Critics have maintained that ejaculation is either stress incontinence or vaginal lubrication. Research in this area has concentrated almost exclusively on attempts to prove that the ejaculate is not urine,[53][71] measuring substances such as urea, creatinine, prostatic acid phosphatase (PAP), prostate specific antigen (PSA),[6] glucose and fructose [72] levels. Early work was contradictory; the initial study on one woman by Addiego and colleagues reported in 1981,[41] could not be confirmed in a subsequent study on 11 women in 1983, [73] but was confirmed in another 7 women in 1984.[74] In 1985 a different group studied 27 women, and found only urine

A study by Gary Schubach, Ed.D. which involved only a small number of women who had said they were ejaculators yielded the result that almost all the fluid expelled from these seven women unquestionably came from their bladders. Even though their bladders had been drained, they still expelled from 50 ml to 900 ml of fluid through the tube and into the catheter bag.

In "Feminist ejaculations" by Shannon Bell she and her colleagues claim support for the existence of ejaculation. When her findings were dismissed by H Alzate in "Vaginal eroticism: a replication study" she replied that Alzate simply dismisses women's subjective experiences in favour of rigorous scientific proof, and is typical of male sexologists withholding the validity of experience from women. So basically she wants people to believe in this with no scientific proof but simply because we&#8217;re women?

An article published in the British Medical Journal entitled &#8216;Magnetic resonance imaging of male and female genitals during coitus and female sexual arousal&#8217; produced images which did not show widening of the vaginal canal, structures suggesting a Gräfenberg spot, or a separate reservoir of fluid indicating "female ejaculation."

The spot commonly referred to as our g-spot is simply an area where indirect stimulation of the bladder produces, yes you guessed it, pissing J

Another article in the British Medical journey entitled &#8216;Sex and the Bladder&#8217; Sex and the bladder -- Cardozo 296 (6622): 587 -- British Medical Journal (Clinical research ed.) has a paragraph which says this &#8211; &#8220;Nearly forty years ago Grafenberg described the expulsion of large quantities of clear transparent fluid from the urethra at the height of orgasm. He thought that this was more likely to be secretions from the intraurethral glands than urine and since then a whole book &#8216;The G Spot&#8217; has been written about the sexual significance of the anterior vaginal wall and urethra. The authors describe in great detail the loss of fluid from the female urethra during sexual activity, but they have no scientific evidence that this fluid is anything other than urine. Could it be that female ejaculation is far more socially acceptable than urinary incontinence during intercourse?&#8221;
 
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The British Board of Film Censors sought expert medical advice which assured them that female squirting was, in fact, urination, however the sites and sources that insist it does exist rely on non medical sources, anecdotal evidence or flawed trials. Like any claim it should stand up to rigorous medical proofs &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t.

Dr John Perry found &#8216;Pure' female ejaculation involves secretions of the female prostate; alternatively, 'gushing' involves a much diluted form of urine.

Time and again people fall back on the skene&#8217;s gland. The simple truth is that we have no organ which can hold an amount of fluid larger than a few mls. The actual volume of the paraurethral tissue is quite small, eleven specimens analysed by Goldberg in 1983 (Goldberg, DC; Whipple, B; Fishkin, RE; Waxman H; Fink PJ; Wiesberg M (1983) ranged from 3&#8211;15 mL (0.6&#8211;3.0 tsp). One source often quoted on the net states that Skene's glands are capable of excreting 30&#8211;50 mL (6&#8211;10 tsp) in 30&#8211;50 seconds,[63] but it is unclear how this was measured and has not been confirmed.

Men will often say well it doesn&#8217;t smell or taste like pee &#8211; fresh urine doesn&#8217;t really have any smell unless you&#8217;re dehydrated and have those men actually tasted pee?

Time and again in this forum threads on squirting have elicited responses from women along the lines of &#8216;the first time it happened I held back because I thought I was peeing myself&#8217;. Well, guess what &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.

For millennia women&#8217;s sexuality has been shrouded in mystery, it&#8217;s only recently that it&#8217;s been acceptable for &#8216;nice&#8217; women to have a strong sexuality, to accept that &#8216;nice&#8217; women can orgasm, can enjoy masturbation, and I think, in part, the studies trying to prove something that does not exist are noble in origin, they&#8217;re trying to make women feel comfortable about something that is a part of female sexuality &#8211; some of us do pee ourselves when we orgasm, it&#8217;s nothing to be ashamed of, and indeed urine plays a strong part in the sexual behaviour of many mammals. But, if we&#8217;re ever to be truly comfortable in our sexuality it can&#8217;t be by disseminating myths.

Only our bladder can hold the amount of fluid most of us are talking about, until we admit the truth about our own sexuality how can we ever be comfortable with it?

Sometimes when a guy&#8217;s eating my pussy and stimulating the area directly underneath my bladder with his fingers it makes me cum so hard I totally lose all control of my bladder, my clit&#8217;s twitching like mad, the feelings in my cunt are so intense I don&#8217;t know if I want more or want him to stop, I reach down and grab his wrist. I could hold back from pissing in his face but it feels really good to just let go and relax into that massive orgasm, if the guy&#8217;s ok with it I do &#8211; but I&#8217;m not kidding myself I&#8217;m squirting, I know I just pissed in his face &#8211; and he loved it. I&#8217;m not going to try and make it more socially acceptable by telling him I squirted, I know what I did and I&#8217;m totally at ease with my sexuality.

I came so hard I pissed myself &#8211; what&#8217;s wrong with just saying that?
 
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The British Board of Film Censors sought expert medical advice which assured them that female squirting was, in fact, urination, however the sites and sources that insist it does exist rely on non medical sources, anecdotal evidence or flawed trials. Like any claim it should stand up to rigorous medical proofs – it doesn’t.

Dr John Perry found ‘Pure' female ejaculation involves secretions of the female prostate; alternatively, 'gushing' involves a much diluted form of urine.

Time and again people fall back on the skene’s gland. The simple truth is that we have no organ which can hold an amount of fluid larger than a few mls. The actual volume of the paraurethral tissue is quite small, eleven specimens analysed by Goldberg in 1983 (Goldberg, DC; Whipple, B; Fishkin, RE; Waxman H; Fink PJ; Wiesberg M (1983) ranged from 3–15 mL (0.6–3.0 tsp). One source often quoted on the net states that Skene's glands are capable of excreting 30–50 mL (6–10 tsp) in 30–50 seconds,[63] but it is unclear how this was measured and has not been confirmed.

Men will often say well it doesn’t smell or taste like pee – fresh urine doesn’t really have any smell unless you’re dehydrated and have those men actually tasted pee?

Time and again in this forum threads on squirting have elicited responses from women along the lines of ‘the first time it happened I held back because I thought I was peeing myself’. Well, guess what ………………….

For millennia women’s sexuality has been shrouded in mystery, it’s only recently that it’s been acceptable for ‘nice’ women to have a strong sexuality, to accept that ‘nice’ women can orgasm, can enjoy masturbation, and I think, in part, the studies trying to prove something that does not exist are noble in origin, they’re trying to make women feel comfortable about something that is a part of female sexuality – some of us do pee ourselves when we orgasm, it’s nothing to be ashamed of, and indeed urine plays a strong part in the sexual behaviour of many mammals. But, if we’re ever to be truly comfortable in our sexuality it can’t be by disseminating myths.

Only our bladder can hold the amount of fluid most of us are talking about, until we admit the truth about our own sexuality how can we ever be comfortable with it?

Sometimes when a guy’s eating my pussy and stimulating the area directly underneath my bladder with his fingers it makes me cum so hard I totally lose all control of my bladder, my clit’s twitching like mad, the feelings in my cunt are so intense I don’t know if I want more or want him to stop, I reach down and grab his wrist. I could hold back from pissing in his face but it feels really good to just let go and relax into that massive orgasm, if the guy’s ok with it I do – but I’m not kidding myself I’m squirting, I know I just pissed in his face – and he loved it. I’m not going to try and make it more socially acceptable by telling him I squirted, I know what I did and I’m totally at ease with my sexuality.

I came so hard I pissed myself – what’s wrong with just saying that?

lol myth busted i guess
 

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I've never seen a male's ejaculation hit the ceiling. But I've read countless apparently earnest accounts from randy lads on this board (and elsewhere) detailing this phenomenon. Both from people who claim to do it, and people who claim to have seen it. But I really doubt it's ever happened.

A wise'un once said, "Pics (vid) or it didn't happen".

Just sayin'................
 

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and this article on vaginal control:

Pompoir: The Art of Milking the Lingam | Tantra: Gateway to Ecstasy

That article has absolutely nothing to do with ejaculating, but my wife tried the exercises and was able to isolate certain muscle groups. The key to her was being able to isolate and relax in a certain way and letting go.

You lucky old dog! I've only met 2 women who could do this at al (& they just did it naturally)l, & it is MINDBLOWING! Any man who hasn't had this is missing out, it's like being at peak intesnsity before orgasm for half an hour!

Every woman should know how to do this; it's hard to believe that with so much information about sex available, this isn't number 1, as this is what actually makes a woman good in bed.

It's staggering most women can't even clench properly. Possibly a lot of women think their men don't deserve it, or don't even believe it's real. My GF managed to make her balloon vag into a tight little hole in a week, & I'll send her your link Raw Dog, because you can't beat a well muscled vagina!
 

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That's crap. I have been with several women and for the MOST part, that's true. The girl I am seeing right now squirts actually. It's not something she does all the time. It has to be the right orgasm and she has to let herself do it.

We have talked about it and she mentioned that the first times she felt it, she thought she had to pee. When she squirts though, I guarantee it's not pee (she knows it's not pee as well). It's definitely different and she is kind of self conscious about it because it can make a bit of a mess. I think it's kinda cool though.

Now she doesn't get off from clitoral stimulation, so it's not like the videos you see sometimes of a girl rubbing her clit until she "squirts" (most of the time they are just peeing in these videos anyway) She has more of an orgasm/gush and it's during penetration, it's just a bunch of liquid that comes out. It's like shes just crazy wet and a little water balloon poped inside of her.
 

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That's crap. I have been with several women and for the MOST part, that's true. The girl I am seeing right now squirts actually. It's not something she does all the time. It has to be the right orgasm and she has to let herself do it.

We have talked about it and she mentioned that the first times she felt it, she thought she had to pee. When she squirts though, I guarantee it's not pee (she knows it's not pee as well). It's definitely different and she is kind of self conscious about it because it can make a bit of a mess. I think it's kinda cool though.

Now she doesn't get off from clitoral stimulation, so it's not like the videos you see sometimes of a girl rubbing her clit until she "squirts" (most of the time they are just peeing in these videos anyway) She has more of an orgasm/gush and it's during penetration, it's just a bunch of liquid that comes out. It's like shes just crazy wet and a little water balloon poped inside of her.

thats what its like for me too and i think if i didnt push at the time of orgasm it wouldnt come out like it does. i know its not urine and im not suggesting its a massive gush like in pornos. its probably only a couple of teaspoons worth but it can be expelled real fast so it looks like more. i know there isnt a gland or anything that saves up our female fluids , its more like we get wetter and wetter and it collects inside us until we have the strong orgasm and push it out. or thats how it seems for me anyway.
 

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Okay, refinement of terms seems appropriate here.

Is one to assume that "gushing orgasm" and "squirting" have the same meaning?
 

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women do not squirt.

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There I said it.

Don't make me kick your ass -women squirting... it just does not happen.

take that back - when your water breaks before child birth - I'll call that gush of fluid "squirting"

Though like it or not - all that "squirting" is urine. Anyone that believes otherwise and is asking you to squirt for them, deserves to get pissed on. (Maybe some cam-handed segue to ask for it).


Zoe--

G-Spot is real. Every woman has one. And when you put a jackhammer on it, women will squirt enough female ejaculate to put out a small grease fire.
 

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That's crap. I have been with several women and for the MOST part, that's true. The girl I am seeing right now squirts actually. It's not something she does all the time. It has to be the right orgasm and she has to let herself do it.

We have talked about it and she mentioned that the first times she felt it, she thought she had to pee. When she squirts though, I guarantee it's not pee (she knows it's not pee as well). It's definitely different and she is kind of self conscious about it because it can make a bit of a mess. I think it's kinda cool though.

Now she doesn't get off from clitoral stimulation, so it's not like the videos you see sometimes of a girl rubbing her clit until she "squirts" (most of the time they are just peeing in these videos anyway) She has more of an orgasm/gush and it's during penetration, it's just a bunch of liquid that comes out. It's like shes just crazy wet and a little water balloon poped inside of her.

I think I'm similar. I don't get off from a guy rubbing my clit at all. And when I jill off myself, I rarely squirt. But a guy hammering my gspot correctly opens the flood gates.
 

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You're all deluding yourself because you find it more socially acceptable to say it's female ejaculation ;-)

It isn't piss - it might be in porn films, but not elsewhere. It doesn't smell like piss, even hours later

I feel sorry for some of the female posters who said that they hold back because of negative reactions - don't it's perfectly natural & to be honest there's never any doubt that when she squirts - she's come - & very very hard at that. Negative comments just make these lucky girls feel like freaks, & that's just out of order. Enable them to feel empowered.

I remember when I was little reading about the myth of the female orgasm - how far we've come (ha ha).

There are people who still say the G spot doesn't exist, & honestly there is an absolute dearth of scientific study on the subject of all female & male anatomical sexual potential.

In fact, I read on Wiki that 70%+ of females ejaculate, but most do it internally!(which a man can also do with practice - but why?!)

I've had more experience, & more sexual relationships lasting more than 3 months than nearly all of this research - the only research that's ever been done on vagina sizes using CT scans to get accurate measurements, only used 21 women(!) & didn't bother to see how large the vagina tented out when fully aroused.

What a waste of time. Yet I've read absurd pieces from Doctors on the net claiming that a vagina is elastic, & always will mould the cock it's got going up it (& in these days of vibrators & dildos in every home).

On the basis of absolutely no scientific research whatsoever!

Back to squirting, I have had a woman try & wee on me - it took her hours coz I started laughing coz she couldn't go, & then she missed - evn tho I was restrained(boy was she pissed at me!)! It truly is not the same - squirting even tastes nice too!
 

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Okay, refinement of terms seems appropriate here.

Is one to assume that "gushing orgasm" and "squirting" have the same meaning?

:rolleyes: Yes, it seems that the majority on the thread persist in calling a female ejaculation 'squirting' even though the depictions of it in porn all involve urination because it's more showy.

SP says that coming until you wee should be included, but I'd rather it wasn't, personally. My preferred ejaculation stops short of that because I am humiliated by it. If I get that pent up I prefer to go run and relieve myself in the proper place, then come back to what we were doing. I had one partner follow me in there and keep at me as I peed once, and he's lucky I forgave him, but it's just not my thing.

And crack-off? The only way it would be 'internal' would be if I were lying on my back so it all ran that way :smile: