MisterMark: "No. Sexual orientation is determined by sexual and emotional attraction, not by individual sex acts."
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No, I'm sorry MisterMark. If you suck 1 or 50 individual cocks, you are still engaging in homo-sex.
"Gay" is really an adjective describing sexual acts. In other words, there is gay sex, not gay people. There are only human beings who act on heterosexual and homosexual impulses.
Therefore, if I suck a cock, then, YES, I am performing a gay act (as a human being, not as a "gay man").
The ancient Greeks had gay sex. But they were men. It described the ACT not the PERSON. They were never a newly realized political class: the modern gay male.
I don't really see where the disagreement is here. Both of you are saying that doing sexual things with a member of the same sex does not equate to 'being gay'. Also - I'm not entirely sure I like the phrasing "The ancient Greeks had gay sex. But they were
men." -
I think you are trying to say that the Greeks did not distinguish between 'gay men' and 'straight men', but it could kinda look like you are saying that exclusively gay men are not 'men' - which is, of course, bullshit.
I think what you are missing about Greek society is that men who were emotionally gay (could only fall in love with, have strong attachments to, be turned on by other men) were also married and had to maintain a heterosexual, procreative relationship with a woman as well. Also, the
overt homosexual sex in Greek society was not between men - it was between a man and a boy. There were societally defined top and bottom roles and it was taboo to stray outside of them. If you are thinking of two hairy 40-something Greek 'bears' going at it then you have the wrong image. The boy was taken as an extra-marital lover because he could be used for sexual gratification without risk of pregnancy. I'm not saying that gay men did not have sex then in the way they do now, I'm sure they did, but it was not acceptable.
But I digress.
Do you think all those women in porn who eat pussy as part of their job are lesbian, or a bit lesbian, or bi. Or are they just eating pussy in a scene because they get paid more for doing that?
What about a gay man who has sex with a woman because they decide they want to have a child together? Is he less gay?
I bet I could enjoy having a woman suck my dick (if she was good at it), but I seriously doubt I would then consider myself to be any more heterosexual than the 1% hetero label that I give myself currently.
Exactly - or if you were blindfolded and had a person (gender unknown) sit their ass down on your cock - would a gay man with a woman sitting on his cock suddenly become bi? Would a straight man with a dude sitting on his cock suddenly become bi?
Of course not.
I have 90/10 in my profile - because I have had female sex partners and, although I haven't done it in a while, I still find the concept of being with a woman a turn on. However - I'm not sure I should have that 10% because I've never had an emotional relationship with a woman and I don't think I could.