In order to make it clear once and for all, I decided not to get my son cut as an infant. My wife wanted him to get cut right away but I had to stomp my fist on the table and make it clear that it won't happen. Here are the reasons :
1) It's his decision to make.
2) Even in my family, with our traditions and ways of seeing things, it still frowned upon to have an infant cut (let alone pierced). Myself and several other guys of my generation have been cut (and sometimes pierced) as infants because our parents (more precisely our mothers) wanted to spare them the pain but they never talk about it because it's kind of a no-no. For me, and my dad, it's a coming of age thing. He regrets giving in to my mom.
So, in many many years, I'll ask him if he wants to get cut and pierced. My wife and I are naked at home pretty much all the time so he'll be familiar with it and chances are he'll be the one asking for it. I'm not afraid our tradition will fade for I've seen the overwhelming majority of teenagers of my generation and the one after actually be impatient, if not too impatient to get their cut and their piercing. If anything, I've seen more cases of parents giving in too early (age 12 or 13) than fathers desperate to see their sons not wanting to carry on our tradition. Actually I know of one guy who refused. Just one. And I know of five guys who, to my opinion, got done way too early. So I think I'm good. But I won't agree before he turns 15. There are four boys born in the community this years so far, all the parents (including me) agreed to leave them unclean until the age of 15 (because that's the whole point of being a kid, not an adult) and we're planning on getting them all done at the same time, in 15 years so there will be no discrepancy, no jealousy, and everyone will be master of their own bodies. I think it's both fair to the kids and the traditions.
Of course there will be no nudism whatsoever for them before they get clean. That's the most traditional way possible and it also coincides with their human rights so it's a win-win.
Note : The no nudism part won't apply when they're amongst themselves because if I'm doomed to get not daughter, I'm definitely gonna have a locker room style bathroom built in our apartment, the same way my parents have one at their home since there is no way each of them get their own private bathroom and I don't want a queue at the bathroom door every morning.
I plan on stopping at three kids, so if I get a daughter, she's gonna have her own bathroom that she will share with her sister if I get two daughters (I think I'm dreaming out loud right now, but who knows...). My dad has already said that he'll pay for the works anyways (his genes, his problem !).
1) It's his decision to make.
2) Even in my family, with our traditions and ways of seeing things, it still frowned upon to have an infant cut (let alone pierced). Myself and several other guys of my generation have been cut (and sometimes pierced) as infants because our parents (more precisely our mothers) wanted to spare them the pain but they never talk about it because it's kind of a no-no. For me, and my dad, it's a coming of age thing. He regrets giving in to my mom.
So, in many many years, I'll ask him if he wants to get cut and pierced. My wife and I are naked at home pretty much all the time so he'll be familiar with it and chances are he'll be the one asking for it. I'm not afraid our tradition will fade for I've seen the overwhelming majority of teenagers of my generation and the one after actually be impatient, if not too impatient to get their cut and their piercing. If anything, I've seen more cases of parents giving in too early (age 12 or 13) than fathers desperate to see their sons not wanting to carry on our tradition. Actually I know of one guy who refused. Just one. And I know of five guys who, to my opinion, got done way too early. So I think I'm good. But I won't agree before he turns 15. There are four boys born in the community this years so far, all the parents (including me) agreed to leave them unclean until the age of 15 (because that's the whole point of being a kid, not an adult) and we're planning on getting them all done at the same time, in 15 years so there will be no discrepancy, no jealousy, and everyone will be master of their own bodies. I think it's both fair to the kids and the traditions.
Of course there will be no nudism whatsoever for them before they get clean. That's the most traditional way possible and it also coincides with their human rights so it's a win-win.
Note : The no nudism part won't apply when they're amongst themselves because if I'm doomed to get not daughter, I'm definitely gonna have a locker room style bathroom built in our apartment, the same way my parents have one at their home since there is no way each of them get their own private bathroom and I don't want a queue at the bathroom door every morning.
I plan on stopping at three kids, so if I get a daughter, she's gonna have her own bathroom that she will share with her sister if I get two daughters (I think I'm dreaming out loud right now, but who knows...). My dad has already said that he'll pay for the works anyways (his genes, his problem !).