When I used to teach science in high school, I always included in my health unit (sexual health) the results of a famous study back in the thirties on sexual goings on between men. By the time the men got old enough to give an informed opinion on two questions, those men said that 2/3rds had had a mutual orgasm with another male, and that a third had had a mutual orgasm with the same male more than once. There is no way that this is a measure of the number of "gays" in a society; it is a measure of the percentage of those men who are open to having sex with another guy.
Woman in a companion study did not have sex with another woman. This is guy behaviour.
So when I joined this site, I did not imagine that it would be a gay site. Guys just will have sex with anything that is warm and moist, for all they want is the pleasure of an orgasm, with no ties or emotional involvement. That can more easily be had with a guy then with a girl. So, it was no surprise to me that most admit to sucking on another male. Males the world over do this, in some societies more open than others. In Holland, it is rampant, with most males probably doing it with another male on the road home to wife and kids. In muslim societies, it is what men do with each other for everyone knows that men's sexual urges can never be controlled, and therefore they have sex with each other till the time they marry. In India which is Hindu, this also happens. In both of those last, though, the men will or rather must marry. Homosexuality in those two worlds is not defined as ours often is since in those two men having sex with men is perfectly normal. What is not normal is that a man would marry a man or continue a sexual relation without marrying a woman. That is what is anathema to them. And while at university doing research 10 years ago, our health service reported that 25% of the guys in the dorm were having anal sex with other guys, having orgasms without use of condoms. These are not gay guys, and if 25% are being unsafe, can you imagine how many are having the anal sex in total? Health services always talk in terms of "men having sex with men" sex, and not gay sex. So, for me sucking is not gay. It is just fun to do.
Before going to see Brokeback Mountain, I had read letters on one site from those who had gone to the movie, and the letters were often about their memories of the guy that they once were in love with and with whom they had had a sexual affair. Most were now married with grandchildren. When I went, I was determined to see how many single men were in the audience, and what percentage had a wedding ring. I saw it with a whole audience of single men at 1PM on a Saturday, with only one group of more than one, two young guys sitting together. The older guys all had wedding rings on when I could catch sight of their hands coming in and leaving. Men are really more complex then we want to admit, and this is not to say that this is all "gayness" that I have seen. I have also seen the biological attraction of men to a gorgeous, athletic male who began to work at our local gas station. He was 17, and his body was great and he was well dressed. He was polite, very good looking and intelligent. And in the days he worked there, I watched the reactions to him from my friends in the town, most of them long married with children. It was the same reaction to this 17 year old boy as I witnessed and felt in a businessmen's restaurant just West of Salt Lake City, as I came into the restaurant following the girl I was driving out to her summer job in Oregon. She was gorgeous, and knew it, and was a cock tease. All the men reared their heads, stopping talking and followed her with their eyes as we went to the back where there was an open table. Men I knew reacted in the same way to this boy. I do not believe this is "gay" behaviour. Predator maybe, but not gay.
Woman in a companion study did not have sex with another woman. This is guy behaviour.
So when I joined this site, I did not imagine that it would be a gay site. Guys just will have sex with anything that is warm and moist, for all they want is the pleasure of an orgasm, with no ties or emotional involvement. That can more easily be had with a guy then with a girl. So, it was no surprise to me that most admit to sucking on another male. Males the world over do this, in some societies more open than others. In Holland, it is rampant, with most males probably doing it with another male on the road home to wife and kids. In muslim societies, it is what men do with each other for everyone knows that men's sexual urges can never be controlled, and therefore they have sex with each other till the time they marry. In India which is Hindu, this also happens. In both of those last, though, the men will or rather must marry. Homosexuality in those two worlds is not defined as ours often is since in those two men having sex with men is perfectly normal. What is not normal is that a man would marry a man or continue a sexual relation without marrying a woman. That is what is anathema to them. And while at university doing research 10 years ago, our health service reported that 25% of the guys in the dorm were having anal sex with other guys, having orgasms without use of condoms. These are not gay guys, and if 25% are being unsafe, can you imagine how many are having the anal sex in total? Health services always talk in terms of "men having sex with men" sex, and not gay sex. So, for me sucking is not gay. It is just fun to do.
Before going to see Brokeback Mountain, I had read letters on one site from those who had gone to the movie, and the letters were often about their memories of the guy that they once were in love with and with whom they had had a sexual affair. Most were now married with grandchildren. When I went, I was determined to see how many single men were in the audience, and what percentage had a wedding ring. I saw it with a whole audience of single men at 1PM on a Saturday, with only one group of more than one, two young guys sitting together. The older guys all had wedding rings on when I could catch sight of their hands coming in and leaving. Men are really more complex then we want to admit, and this is not to say that this is all "gayness" that I have seen. I have also seen the biological attraction of men to a gorgeous, athletic male who began to work at our local gas station. He was 17, and his body was great and he was well dressed. He was polite, very good looking and intelligent. And in the days he worked there, I watched the reactions to him from my friends in the town, most of them long married with children. It was the same reaction to this 17 year old boy as I witnessed and felt in a businessmen's restaurant just West of Salt Lake City, as I came into the restaurant following the girl I was driving out to her summer job in Oregon. She was gorgeous, and knew it, and was a cock tease. All the men reared their heads, stopping talking and followed her with their eyes as we went to the back where there was an open table. Men I knew reacted in the same way to this boy. I do not believe this is "gay" behaviour. Predator maybe, but not gay.