Straight men, gay sex disclaimer

Can we sticky a disclaimer in the Relationships thread that states, "No matter how you word it and what you preface your statement with, a man that willingly has sex with another man (as in non-torture or force) is not 'straight'?"

It seems that people want to find any way they can possibly make a situation equal out to a man retaining his %100 straight title with being able to dabble in man/man sexual relations.

The point is, if you weren't raped or in such a level of destitution that your only way of being freed was to allow a rich, gay man to have his way with you...then you are not straight.

It's not the end of the world. You won't die, get AIDS or cooties...you just keep on living.

Despite what your community tells you, your sexuality doesn't make up who you are. Because you are sexually attracted to men, at any level, doesn't mean that you are a pedophile, pervert or anything else that is vile or disgusting.

Please, for the sake of all things beautiful, can we stop with the "If a guy's drunk and maybe a little high and he only looks for, like, three seconds at his friend's dick before he even thinks of jacking off...is he still straight?" threads?

Thank you. I'll return my soapbox to the LPSG rental station now.

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Amen!

Why is it so hard ( sorry, no pun intended ) for some guys to admit they like a little cock once in a while? The answer: organized religion, the root of most conflicts, mental and physical, in this world. Such a crock of shit!
 
"Despite what your community tells you, your sexuality doesn't make up who you are. Because you are sexually attracted to men, at any level, doesn't mean that you are a pedophile, pervert or anything else that is vile or disgusting." --yngjock20

Yeah, I am not into alternative fetishes and the sort. But it seems that the media likes to paint gay people into these genres. Just like the media paints images of black people. Asians. Hispanics.
 
so if I have sucked a dick and liked it, but 90% of guys don't turn me on, And I can't have a relationship with a guy but can have sex with him, prefer the company of women and love a women
what is the % of gay/str8 am I ?? Just wondering, its so confusing the %'s here
 
I don't think sexuality affects whether or not you're a good person but I don't agree that someone who has had sex with a man has to be gay, people change and I don't see why there's a need to label oneself as gay because for two months last year you had sex with a man, I have sex with women sometimes, but I don't label myself as straight or gay (I did on my profile but that was only because I was getting a fair number of pm's from women and I'm on a large cock site to talk to guys not women). My sexuality is whatever it is at this minute.
 
i feel that many guys are attracted to other guys but there's not a good way for them to express it. girls can touch each other & be more affectionate in natural ways so there's more sublimating sexual stuff. for guys to touch each other that way would be considered gay which i think is a shame.
 
As far as I'm concerned people are whatever they say they are because I really don't have any reason to care more than that. If a guy rides cock every night and still calls himself straight more power to him, I don't see how it's hurting anybody. If you try to hard to stick to the labels then probably 90% of people are bi.
 
I personally dont think you need to label yourself,, i do think its important to mention it, if you are in a serious relationship with someone,,
Personally,, i can not STAND a man who does it on the DL

I think you just need to be who you are, but dont need to spread it around to everyone, because there are a lot of Homophobes out there
 
I agree!

Situational homosexuality. Think prisons, ships at sea for 6mos w/o the opposite sex, single sex schools, fraternities/sororities (kidding), even bootcamp in an all same sex environment. If a person goes with another because there are no other outlets a person really can be str8 and have "gaysex" (I'll be cursed for saying that I know) However when there is ample opportunity to have sex with the opposite sex and they choose someone of the same sex, they should be real to themself and say they are a least a tintsy-weentsy bit bisexual.

Can't we all just be like bonobos and screw or rub everything/everybody with wild abandon? :p
 
I'd say that possibly barring once for experimentation and twice to be sure, if a guy is having sex with other guys, he's at least bi. Maybe the indicator should be changed to something like 10% straight 80% bi and 10% gay for example.
I'm more gay than straight but I enjoy sex with both genders. I'm in a gay relatinonship now, but I can't say with any certainty that I won't end up with a woman again at some point in the future. I've been in heterosexual relationships in the past, and don't regret it, but I'm glad that I never married because that would have complicated matters immensely.
I'm not sure where I stand on guys scewing around with other guys behind their wives' backs. Is it any different to screwing around with other women? Either way, the wife is being cheated on and the guy is "getting something he doesn't get at home". The thing is that most of those guys would identify themselves as straight because they have a wife and kids, despite bending over to take it in saunas and cruising grounds.
 
While I do understand where you are coming from, I have a few issues with what you say. Perhaps I'm nitpicky or overreacting, but I have a few points of contention.

First, one's sexual orientation is not based on who one fucks. It is about who we are. A man is not gay because he fucks other men. He is gay because he has a sexual desire only for men. As a result, the married man who lives a lie with his wife, because he really only is attracted to men, but never has had sex with a man, is not straight. He's gay. If one bases sexuality on who we fuck, then he's straight. But he's not. The straight guy who does gay for pay porn, but is really only attracted to women, is not gay, or bi. He is straight.

Second, only he/she can say what his/her sexuality really is. Since it is an internal matter no other person can really say what another person's sexuality really is. You are absolutely right in that many people, unfortunately, live in denial about it, but you and I do not have "windows into their souls".

Lastly, and I ask you to try not to take offense at this, but why do you (and a lot of other people) care? I read a lot of people getting very upset when people don't self identify how others think they should. To me, that seems very controlling, and borderline oppressive. What kind of sexual freedom can we have if others are allowed to determine our sexual labels. The greatest freedoms out there are the freedoms to be stupid and wrong. Without them none of the others matter a damn.
 
I agree, what people do behind closed doors is there business, unless it involves children or animals. i dont think we need to go around labeling every little thing in life. some people are sex addicts, and will fuck anything, no boundaries!
But, I did have a boyfriend when I was in my teens who was bi-sexual i suspected, we had a lot of fun together,, and years later when i was married, I ran in to him, and he was living with a man! So i guess he figured things out. He was young when we dated, so maybe he was confused, who knows. So, since then, i do seem to have a Gaydar about men, and dated a man who again, suspected was Bi,, i never said anything to him, and we did have great sex,, and got along very well. I just feel if you are married, I dont think it's right to live a lie!
 
Well, let me say this...I for the longest agreed that your sexuality had more to do with who you have a emotional connection to and not so much as to who you stick it to, but there are a great deal of people going around who are causing very serious problems by carrying out DL relationships and calling themselves straight. For that I say you need to call a spade a spade and do the right thing. The 21st century is birthing too many setbacks as it is.

This blog was strictly meant for the plethora of threads created on here that contend that a "unequivicably straight" man can do any and everything with another man and still consider himself 100% in love with the ladies. It's not true.

All of you who consciously know that you have feelings for both sexes...to whatever degree, this wasn't meant for you. I think I make that very clear in my OP.
 
"Well, let me say this...I for the longest agreed that your sexuality had more to do with who you have a emotional connection to and not so much as to who you stick it to, but there are a great deal of people going around who are causing very serious problems by carrying out DL relationships and calling themselves straight. For that I say you need to call a spade a spade and do the right thing. The 21st century is birthing too many setbacks as it is.

This blog was strictly meant for the plethora of threads created on here that contend that a "unequivicably straight" man can do any and everything with another man and still consider himself 100% in love with the ladies. It's not true.

All of you who consciously know that you have feelings for both sexes...to whatever degree, this wasn't meant for you. I think I make that very clear in my OP."--yngjock20

Yeah. We both agree on that. But you know that those guys are of the "having the cake and eating it too" kind.

I don't do it with "down lows". They are known to get abusive. I don't let the "down lows" get me down. If everyone is going to believe that a guy is straight even when they sleep with men more than women. I let them believe that.

People are going to believe what they want. But you don't have to take the abuse from them. Live your life as honest as you can. They have to live theirs albeit honest or dishonest.
 
Straight men, gay sex disclaimer

Posted by yngjock20
Can we sticky a disclaimer in the Relationships thread that states, "No matter how you word it and what you preface your statement with, a man that willingly has sex with another man (as in non-torture or force) is not 'straight'?"
*SNIP*
Thank you so much for saying this! I used to think it was due to societal stigmas; but the truth is this site attracts men who are sexually aroused by other men. :confused::rolleyes:
 
"the truth is this site attracts men who are sexually aroused by other men."--NJQT

You are wrong...I guess. :rolleyes:
 
Invisibleman hit a really good point about the DL men that is very serious. My favorite social pundit, Alexyss K. Tylor once spoke about the dangers of DL men, and it's very true that their inner guilt and secrecy leads them to be abusive and teritorial about their "hookups."

Like I said, Stop with the lies because you're hurting more people than you think.
 
What you are arguing seems reasonable at first glance, but I don't think many people have thought through the consequences. Once you (and others) claim the right to determine other people's sexuality then you have opened a Pandora's Box that leads to sexual repression. No human being has the right to control another person's sexual identity. They may be wrong, but that is beside the point. Sexual liberation includes not only the right to control one's body, but the right to control one's identity as well. Once one opens that box, one has wedged open the door for the Fred Phelps' of the world. If you have the right to determine another person's sexual identity, no matter how seemingly clearly wrong it is, then so do the people who want to deny the existence of homosexuality and simply declare it a mental illness. It goes hand in hand. If you declare that you have dominion over other people's sexual identities, then so do they. And that is something I can never accept.

(I still don't understand why people want to define other people's sexual identities in the first place. As I mentioned earlier, I find it rather controlling. Don't get me wrong I have my personal issues just like everyone else. I just find that sexual matters are like politics and religion. The world would be a far better place if we all just let people determine these things for themselves.)
 
It is those who I am talking about who initially want to define their sexuality. I don't wish to define it for them, but I wish that people would stop with the "Am I gay if I..." or "Straight men will let you fuck them if..."

They want to keep being straight, but do gay stuff.

Whatever they want to be, they should commit to it. If you can't commit to being straight, then you aren't straight. It's just the way it goes. You don't have to become a stereotype like something you saw on tv once; but you do have to be honest about yourself. To yourself and to those who you engage with on those (relationship) levels.

No well specified situation...unless it's the two mentioned in the OP will ever equal out to 100% straight if you can physically become arroused by the sight of another man knowing he has a penis. (see, I said that because I knew someone would try to argue with transgenderism)
 

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