‘getting Pozzed’

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hi, recently i stumbled upon a term i’m kinda horrified at (getting pozzed) where gay men seek out being exposed to HIV through repeated bareback sex with poz men.

i just wanted to know if anyone has any experiences or know of anything to do with this as i’m sure i’m not educated on the matter as much as i could be
 

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hi, recently i stumbled upon a term i’m kinda horrified at (getting pozzed) where gay men seek out being exposed to HIV through repeated bareback sex with poz men.

i just wanted to know if anyone has any experiences or know of anything to do with this as i’m sure i’m not educated on the matter as much as i could be

Been going on for decades. We call them "bug chasers". Think it's less prevalent now than it was back then, especially now that we have prep.
For a lot of them it was driven out of fear of getting it (which makes zero sense, i know...). They'd rather just infect themselves and get it over with, so they don't have to worry about it anymore. Quite fucked up, but eh, people are weird.
 

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Been going on for decades. We call them "bug chasers". Think it's less prevalent now than it was back then, especially now that we have prep.
For a lot of them it was driven out of fear of getting it (which makes zero sense, i know...). They'd rather just infect themselves and get it over with, so they don't have to worry about it anymore. Quite fucked up, but eh, people are weird.
i just cannot believe this actually happens - people purposefully putting them selves at risk. i don’t even understand it if you are on PReP as it’s a preventative medication it’s not a miracle cure
 
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i just cannot believe this actually happens - people purposefully putting them selves at risk. i don’t even understand it if you are on PReP as it’s a preventative medication it’s not a miracle cure
As @RowanB said, some people were getting fatigued over fear of infection, and the chore of prevention.

So.. it evolved into a fetish/fantasy. Because, why not. Then a whole fucked up subculture and language was born. Having it transition into the fetish realm also makes it really difficult to extinguish.

Arousal at chasing the exposure, then regret the day after seems to be the trend. PEP (post-exposure prophylaxis) and PrEP (pre-exposure prophylaxis) help mitigate it.

This is an interesting article that interviews some bug chasers.
 
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It's always been a strange fetish to me. Years ago I had a group of friends and one of them brought a new friend into the group. He was cute, but naive - bordering on stupid. His family was a religious trainwreck and he wasn't out to them. If they didn't know then I could see where the stupid came from.

He was telling us about some new guys that he met and they had invited him to a party where he would be the guest of honor. He was thrilled to make new friends and thought it was wonderful that someone would throw him a party, just because. Then one of the older guys in the group took him aside and explained exactly what was in store for him. I guess it terrified him because he left and we never saw him again.
 
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i just cannot believe this actually happens - people purposefully putting them selves at risk. i don’t even understand it if you are on PReP as it’s a preventative medication it’s not a miracle cure
It's definitely a weird phenomenon to put it lightly.

With the advent of PrEP and proper HIV treatment, it's not as big a deal. In very rare cases, PrEP has failed, but overall still very effective. Treatment for HIV is even better, the CDC even announced that if a poz guy's viral load is undetectable, there is 0% chance of transmission during unprotected anal sex, even without the negative partner on PrEP.

I have actually had bareback sex with a poz undetectable guy, though still use PrEP. Most poz guys do take treatment as it helps them physically and prevents them spreading HIV and therefore able to have sex with neg guys even devoid of condoms. The real danger is having bareback sex with someone who doesn't know their status, or with someone who claims they are neg but are in fact poz. Recent converters tend to have high viral loads before they take treatment.
 
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Yes, sadly, it is a 'thing' and has been for a long time. But I believe today it is mostly fantasy - akin perhaps to the fantasy of being bit by a vampire and being turned into one.

I was accidentally infected over 25 years ago (torn condom with my late long-term partner). The very last thing I would ever want to do would be to pass my infection onto someone else.

I have always been open about being HIV+ with potential partners, and I would only have sex with guys who were also already HIV+/"poz". My hook-up profiles have always included that I was HIV+ and only interested in other poz guys. But I had to also add that I was not interested in "bug-chasers" (or anyone who was PnP). Bug-chasers still contact me.

When I read their posts, it is really clear that they get off on the idea of being infected - it is their fetish. But, I think the vast majority of these guys are already HIV+ but they want to re-enact and get off again and again with their fantasy.

II have a hard time coping with them - their fantasy is an absolute turn off for me. I buried my late partner, have had three AIDS-defining illnesses and was forced to end an incredibly successful international career because of HIV. I am very lucky to be alive today, and have lived and continue to live an adventuresome, fulfilling life but I know the facts about HIV and it is the farthest form a fantasy as I could imagine.

Today, I am somewhat open to playing with someone who is on PrEP (I am undetectable so am already unlikely to transmit HIV). But it has only happened once, and it is a bit of a challenge after decades of the freedom of playing only with guys who were already poz.
 

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It’s horrid in idea. I think it’s a bigger legend than reality. Also, some “seeking” this situation might be fooling themselves they don’t already have it. So many have died that I can’t even think about sexualizing this in any terms.
 
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It's definitely a weird phenomenon to put it lightly.

With the advent of PrEP and proper HIV treatment, it's not as big a deal. In very rare cases, PrEP has failed, but overall still very effective. Treatment for HIV is even better, the CDC even announced that if a poz guy's viral load is undetectable, there is 0% chance of transmission during unprotected anal sex, even without the negative partner on PrEP.

I have actually had bareback sex with a poz undetectable guy, though still use PrEP. Most poz guys do take treatment as it helps them physically and prevents them spreading HIV and therefore able to have sex with neg guys even devoid of condoms. The real danger is having bareback sex with someone who doesn't know their status, or with someone who claims they are neg but are in fact poz. Recent converters tend to have high viral loads before they take treatment.

The same goes for guys who say they’re Poz undetectable or guys who say they’re on prep. and yes, I’ve heard more than enough stories of people being put at risk because their sexual partner lied about the above.

At the end of the day, it’s all down to trust and if you’re willing to risk it or not. I wouldn’t trust a random who says he’s negative or on prep as much as I wouldn’t trust a random who says he’s poz undetectable.

There are many messed up individuals out there, sadly.
 
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