10,000 Absentee Ballots in Gwinnett Are Flawed

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  1. Principessa

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    Let the games begin! :frown1:The local CBS and NBC affiliates in Atlanta reported it as 19,000 flawed ballots. Either way the fact they must be corrected by hand does not bode well.

    I knew when I saw Naughty's thread yesterday that it was just the beginning. This is bad, very bad. It's gonna be like election 2000 all over again.

    10,000 absentee ballots in Gwinnett are flawed

    Votes will have to be transferred to new ballots


    By MARY LOU PICKEL, MARCUS K. GARNER
    The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
    Thursday, October 23, 2008

    Gwinnett County elections officials will have to hand-copy votes from at least 10,000 absentee ballots onto new ballots that can be read by a machine.

    The original ballots, designed to be filled out by hand, are flawed because of a printing error. The circle beside the candidate’s name is too thick and somewhat misshapen, and consequently an optical scanning machine won’t be able to read the votes on Election Day.

    The county discovered the problem last week during routine testing.

    Gwinnett had already mailed out 19,700 flawed ballots before it realized the problem.

    Of those, 10,000 have already been marked and sent back by voters, said Lynn Ledford director of Voter Registration and Elections for Gwinnett County.

    The printing mistake was not apparent to the naked eye, Ledford said.

    The elections office will now have to transfer the votes from those 10,000 ballots onto new ballots so an optical scanning machine can read them, Ledford said. If more of the flawed ballots come back, that number will increase.

    County spokesman Joe Sorenson said correcting the errors could be complicated.

    “[Election workers] are going to have to take the bad ballots, take a look at what each choice is, and mark that choice for the second ballot,” Sorenson said. “There will be two sets of eyes on each ballot.”

    From 200 to 300 election workers will be dedicated to this process, he said.

    “I’ve got to assume we’re going to have to hire more people,” said Sorenson, who didn’t know the anticipated cost for fixing the issue.

    But that’s only part of county’s concern. Security is another issue.

    “It’s going to be a sequestered process,” he said. “Those election workers will not be able to leave or have contact with other people during the process.” He said those workers won’t be able to have phones, recording equipment or access to any other media, among other things. And sheriff’s deputies will be assigned to maintain the integrity of the votes, along with party auditors.

    Sorenson said he expects the process to be completed by the time the rest of the votes are tallied at the end of Election Day.

    “It’s very unfortunate that this issue had not been caught before-hand,” said Susan Somach of Atlanta, a volunteer with Election Protection, a nonpartisan voter education and watch dog group.

    Somach said she hopes the vote transferring process is done accurately.

    Ledford assured that each ballot will be numbered sequentially and accounted for.

    Also, voter anonymity will be preserved because absentee ballots come in two envelopes — one with the person’s name and another containing the vote. The envelopes are handled by two different workers so that one person cannot determine how someone voted.

    The Secretary of State’s office and both political parties have been notified, Ledford said.

    Somach expects that political parties and candidate representatives will want to observe the vote-transferring process to ensure its “accuracy and transparency.”

    Ledford said registrars don’t have to test their absentee ballots until three days before an election. She did so several weeks in advance.

    The county started mailing out corrected absentee ballots Monday to voters who had not yet received them.
     
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    this can't be happening!
     
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    In theory, this isn't a big deal and can be easily fixed. My problem is what if this happens other places? I mean it's technically a printing error. These things happen right . . . it's just an accident, no malicious intent I'm sure. :rolleyes:
     
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    My good God!

    Ok....this is fucking rediculous! I live in the state of Alabama, and we've probably got one of the easiest ballots in the country. All you do is draw a line that connects an arrow, walk over to a little machine, feed the ballot to the machine, the vote is counted, and the ballot is stored for possible future use. If my dumbass state can figure it out and make it that damned easy, why can't every other state follow suit?
     
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    *facepalm*
     
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    How hard is it for our nation to come up with a universal voting system? If they can come up with one official 1040, W2 or whatever nationalized tax form then they can do the same thing for a Presidential ballot. No excuses.

    More and more, it's becoming apparent that leaving this up to each individual state is not working. They all try to make their own form of ballot and in the process create all sorts of problems when trying to come up with accurate tallies. To have yet another election with the potential of voting fraud is just disgusting. Shows just how incompetent our government really is when it comes to real issues.
     
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