10 lies about porn stars

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  1. ClaireTalon

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    To the moderators: I think this should be posted, but I wasn't sure about the
    category, so I put it here. Feel free to move it to a suited location if you think you
    have one.

    This is a piece I found by luck on a website that calls itself "Thinking Porn", http://www.sugarbank.com
    . It shouldn't be anything breathtakingly new, but I think it might be worth some takes from you. Enjoy.


     
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    Some very interesting points to ponder. So often we hear n00bs asking why all our members aren't porn stars, this may give them something to think about.

    Of course, the bitch in me loved this part:

    "9. Art Porn. The defense of bad art is always the same. “Who are you to
    judge?” Well I’m happy to judge and so are you. Bach was a better composer
    than Yanni, and Monet was a better painter than Thomas Kincaid. If you
    disagree that’s not an opinion, it’s proof you’re an imbecile. Art porn
    has yet to scale the heights of ‘Dogs Playing Poker’ and it all sucks. :tongue:



    Porn-sucks-hahaha!
     
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    Madame, Porn won't suck no longer after you and me prowled the business with TRUELY alternative, artsy porn.

    I was most disappointed by No. 10, porn won't get you rich. I mean, I always told myself if things got really bad, I'd apply to be cast for a porn movie, and make the big bucks. Shame, i thought that'd work.

    However, I highly recommend to take a look at the rest of SugarBank. They have some very interesting takes on pornography there, mostly on the shadowy sides of the business, like staged and real violency, racism etc. I couldn't do more than a cursory glance because it's a lot of written stuff, but what I've read so far, quite sharp stuff.
     
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    I always knew the money sucked. I got paid a whopping $300 for boob shots in a low budget rag. I would have made more if I just went to work, haha.

    I'm afraid I'm far too jaded for porn these days, I don't think I could drum up the emotion to appear surprised, titilated, or even interested in the boring scenarios they usually present. Anymore, the kind of exploration I'm doing wouldn't film well, so it's just something for me to enjoy. We do have fun trading stories though, don't we?
     
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    good point ClaireTalon
    porn industry exaggrating pornstars sizes , thats a truth.
     
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    And the thing is, it's worse for men in the industry. Nobody wants (or for the most part) to see the guy. Seeing the women is what it's all about. Men get paid even less than the women.

    Of course, I'm talking about hetero-porn.
     
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    *scrounges up money to see if she can make better offer*
     
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    What makes it even worse is that the male counterparts hetero versions only contribution seems to be only size and the money shot. Aesthetics are limited to the female only.
     
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    Waaaaaaaaaaaaa. Wow, so there's at least one industry in which women are paid more than men. I guess guys will have to satisfy themselves with the 95% of the rest of career fields where women still earn less money for doing the same job. *steps off soapbox* :wink:

    Meanwhile, isn't the reason why women are the "stars" of straight porn because it's primarily targeted at straight men? I remember seeing a documentary on the porn industry on HBO (I think) where one older porn producer said his company specifically sought out less attractive men (paging Ron Jeremy) because it allowed the typical porn viewer to better imagine himself f*cking the woman on screen. If the men were too hot, it took away from the male viewer's fantasy that he, too, could nail Jenna Jameson.
     
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    Well, credit where credit's due there, surfergal. I mean, a fair % of the time you won't find a lot of hetero women admitting that adult movies is a sexual turn on, even tho a greater% of them are the actual starlettes in the films.
     
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    Well, I am not questioning it, Chuck. I'm just saying that since str8 men are the target audience it's not surprising that the women in the films are the draw, so they make the money.
     
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    Even if I film the scene with you and Claire? You guys get to be in control. Totally.

    I actually know a few men who have done gay porn. Their stories are interesting: from photo shoots to solo and sex scenes.
     
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    I think I heard somewhere that in Europe the porn men make a lot more than the women and the actresses are treated pretty shabbily compared to here.
     
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    Who knows European porn men, and women? Well, I don't. But I can't imagine production companies being so generous if the actors are widely unorganized, and have neither a lobby, nor a strong spokesman/-woman.

    Lex, since neither me nor I think Madame feel bi tendencies, I guess this could only mean the ultimate sex fight:

    Zora "Madame" LaTitte

    vs.

    Claire "Talon" BanGalore
     
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    Oh, I don't want you guys to go at each other--I want you both to devour ME.

    I'm sorry if I wasn't clear earlier.

    Please spank me now for being bad. Kthanks.
     
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    I remember a former friend of mine did a porno once. She got fucked by a family acquaintance (does anyone else think that's kind of gross) for $250. She tried to talk me into going to the shoot and "performing" with him too. I wonder if they even would have given her a finder's fee. She originally told me the shoot would pay $500. I wonder how it got cut down to half.
     
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    Ebony porn is a "fetish group". Heck, done some stuff and I'm a novelty!
     
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    Maybe they were counting on their girls to be so illiterate, they'll take five green bills as 500, while it were just 250. Or it was a full exploitation of the fact that the actors have no one to back them up, and can immediately be replaced by someone else who is more willing, or someone who thinks 500 is much.

    In fact, you'll find a lot of resembling items in the "resumés" or bios of porn actresses. Born in some hick town, abuse, a career as a run-away, bad acquaintances, experience as prostitute/stripper and then the porn industry, the crème de la crème of employment in this career. Of course, 250 or 500 is a lot of money then, especially in cash on your hand.
     
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    I think that's true. I think some women who go into porn in L.A. view it as just another aspect of "Hollywood" - kinda like the Oscars, but... not. :rolleyes: I guess if they've come from abusive homes/relationships, it might look like a fast ticket to the good life. A lot of these girls end up being paid to hang out as "extras" at parties at the Playboy mansion or at producer's house parties. It's not really known as a crossover area leading to legit film careers, though.
     
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    It may seem like a good life to them, but nothing long lasting. If they don't manage to become in-/famous for something or make a name within the first five years, they are trashed. Who will employ a former porn actress?

    I'm afraid today it might be even harder, with all the cheap internet porn around. I guess while becoming a contract girl for one of the bigger production companies might be the better of the worse options, getting into internet porn will finally doom you.
     
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