10 lies about porn stars

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To the moderators: I think this should be posted, but I wasn't sure about the
category, so I put it here. Feel free to move it to a suited location if you think you
have one.

This is a piece I found by luck on a website that calls itself "Thinking Porn", http://www.sugarbank.com
. It shouldn't be anything breathtakingly new, but I think it might be worth some takes from you. Enjoy.


SugarBank.com said:
1. Porn stars are breaking into the mainstream. You’re not cast as the stripper who dances naked at the bachelor party and then has a coat hook put through the back of her head hile she’s fucking the star because you have potential as a character actress. You’ll get offered ‘Third junkie hooker’ because junkie hookers one and two get to keep their clothes on and there’s a line of real actresses out the door fighting to do those parts, and getting a five episode story arc on CSI doesn’t count when they’re using your notoriety for free publicity. The mainstream’s happy to inject a little pornster sex-appeal when they need it, and know most are so desperate for mainstream recognition they’ll take $250 for a twelve hour day as long as they don’t have to screw anyone.

2. Teens. Women are only teenage and legal for two years. Tiffany Teen’s been online since 2003 and if you think that she was eighteen when she
started… wanna buy a bridge? You can’t really fault women who exploit the borderline-pedophile market but seriously, when was the last time you
saw a real teenager in a pink mini-skirt and pigtails?

3. Sluts. Despite what it says on the box, if you call a woman – even a porn performer - a nasty cum-drinking bitch when your not having sex
with her, she’s probably going to knee you in the nuts. The tubby mommies-boys and misogynists who market porn want you to think the way they view women is how women in porn see themselves. Try calling a performer a ‘dirty
cock-socket’ at a trade-show if you think it is, in fact, true. Watch your head.

4. Reality Porn. You go for a drive with a few friends. Seeing a cute girl on the street you stop to offer her a ride. She sees four guys in a van, one of whom has a video camera, and gets in. You ask to see her tits and she says no, so you offer her a hundred bucks to fuck you and your
buddy. She thinks about it, realizes she’s always wanted to be a prostitute, asks for two hundred, and jumps on your dick. You’re not wearing a rubber and she’s a total stranger but neither of you are worried because, like, what are the odds? You stop the van and persuade her to get out. Then ‘for a joke’ you drive off without paying her and sell the video on the internet. She obviously doesn’t tell anyone because you manage to do this three times a week in the same neighborhood without any difficulty for then next five years. If that seems real too you - man you have to see this bridge…

5. Cock length and bust size. New rule. Any guy claiming to pack over nine inches has to photograph their junk beside an ice-pick like an
explorer who’s found a strange footprint; and guys, the number in a bra-size is a chest measurement. 54C? That’s Barbra Bush. Enjoy your masturbation.

6. Gangbang numbers. We’ll forget that you’re watching a gangbang and what that means - “There are hundred of guys standing around wanking in this movie and one bored woman… I’m buying it.” – but given testing costs, catering logistics and basic rates of pay you’d be insane to
believe the numbers producers put on the boxes of ‘gangbang’ movies. Even if you could get 500 guys in a room, tested, fed and paid half of
them wouldn’t be able to get it up, half of those left wouldn’t be able to get it out, and half of the remainder would sneeze all over the thighs
of the guy in front of him while waiting in line for seconds. It’s why gangbang movies always have a number of well-known male performers on-hand to do the job. Porn counting goes like this 1, 2, 3, Gang, “INSERT FANTASY NUMBER HERE”

7. Fame. The most famous living pornographers are Hugh Hefner, Larry Flynt and Ron Jeremy. Hefner’s an institution (that institution’s a
cross between Michael Jackson’s Neverland and a Greyhound station) while Flynt and Jeremy are both thirty-year veterans who’ve been the
subject of mainstream movies. Jenna? A distant fourth, and being fourth most famous anything is like being the fourth largest army in the world
- India - no one cares. Porn will not make you famous - unless you think that the ninth most famous magician in America’s a pretty famous dude (admit it – you got stuck after David Copperfield, David Blaine, Siegfried and Roy).

8. Alt Porn. Traditionally porn performers get paid a fixed daily rate, don’t get any residual pay and have no real control over the product they’re in. The product itself features skinny white girls from the flyover states who get hired because of how they look and how they fuck. Or is that alt-porn? Janine’s been rocking tatts and attitude for a decade while raising two kids without ever being labeled ‘alt’ anything, while ‘alt porn’ darling Joanna Angel recently said on camera “…does the fact I’ll let any stranger cum on my face but won’t fuck a black guy make me a racist?” Er… yes it does Joanna (See here for why). A tattoo and a bad dye-job is not going to upset ‘the system’ and the ‘alternative’ to traditional porn is independence, control and new ideas not haircuts, piercings and hip records.

9. Art Porn. The defense of bad art is always the same. “Who are you to judge?” Well I’m happy to judge and so are you. Bach was a better composer than Yanni, and Monet was a better painter than Thomas Kincaid. If you disagree that’s not an opinion, it’s proof you’re an imbecile. Art porn has yet to scale the heights of ‘Dogs Playing Poker’ and it all sucks.

10. Porn Stars are Rich. If you grew up in a town where having tread on your spare tire made you wealthy, porn is incredibly lucrative. If you
think it’s unfair to get paid $2,000 for a movie named after you which makes $500,000 in its first year of release you might not be ‘porn star’ material. The average studio contract is about $75K a year and if you’re lucky you’ll hold it for five. During that time you’ll eat as carefully, and train as hard, as a professional athlete, you won’t be able to start a family, and you’ll exclude yourself permanently from a range of other career options in return for the take-home pay of a
McDonalds night-manager. Porn’s like professional sport, the rich people are the (content) owners. Unlike professional sport there is no minimum
wage, hardly any licensing and no players association. Want to be a rich adult performer? Build a website.
 

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Some very interesting points to ponder. So often we hear n00bs asking why all our members aren't porn stars, this may give them something to think about.

Of course, the bitch in me loved this part:

"9. Art Porn. The defense of bad art is always the same. “Who are you to
judge?” Well I’m happy to judge and so are you. Bach was a better composer
than Yanni, and Monet was a better painter than Thomas Kincaid. If you
disagree that’s not an opinion, it’s proof you’re an imbecile. Art porn
has yet to scale the heights of ‘Dogs Playing Poker’ and it all sucks. :tongue:



Porn-sucks-hahaha!
 

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Madame, Porn won't suck no longer after you and me prowled the business with TRUELY alternative, artsy porn.

I was most disappointed by No. 10, porn won't get you rich. I mean, I always told myself if things got really bad, I'd apply to be cast for a porn movie, and make the big bucks. Shame, i thought that'd work.

However, I highly recommend to take a look at the rest of SugarBank. They have some very interesting takes on pornography there, mostly on the shadowy sides of the business, like staged and real violency, racism etc. I couldn't do more than a cursory glance because it's a lot of written stuff, but what I've read so far, quite sharp stuff.
 

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I always knew the money sucked. I got paid a whopping $300 for boob shots in a low budget rag. I would have made more if I just went to work, haha.

I'm afraid I'm far too jaded for porn these days, I don't think I could drum up the emotion to appear surprised, titilated, or even interested in the boring scenarios they usually present. Anymore, the kind of exploration I'm doing wouldn't film well, so it's just something for me to enjoy. We do have fun trading stories though, don't we?
 

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madame_zora said:
I always knew the money sucked.

And the thing is, it's worse for men in the industry. Nobody wants (or for the most part) to see the guy. Seeing the women is what it's all about. Men get paid even less than the women.

Of course, I'm talking about hetero-porn.
 

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RideRocket said:
And the thing is, it's worse for men in the industry. Nobody wants (or for the most part) to see the guy. Seeing the women is what it's all about. Men get paid even less than the women.

Of course, I'm talking about hetero-porn.

*scrounges up money to see if she can make better offer*
 

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RideRocket said:
And the thing is, it's worse for men in the industry. Nobody wants (or for the most part) to see the guy. Seeing the women is what it's all about. Men get paid even less than the women...

Waaaaaaaaaaaaa. Wow, so there's at least one industry in which women are paid more than men. I guess guys will have to satisfy themselves with the 95% of the rest of career fields where women still earn less money for doing the same job. *steps off soapbox* :wink:

Meanwhile, isn't the reason why women are the "stars" of straight porn because it's primarily targeted at straight men? I remember seeing a documentary on the porn industry on HBO (I think) where one older porn producer said his company specifically sought out less attractive men (paging Ron Jeremy) because it allowed the typical porn viewer to better imagine himself f*cking the woman on screen. If the men were too hot, it took away from the male viewer's fantasy that he, too, could nail Jenna Jameson.
 

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Well, credit where credit's due there, surfergal. I mean, a fair % of the time you won't find a lot of hetero women admitting that adult movies is a sexual turn on, even tho a greater% of them are the actual starlettes in the films.
 

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MASSIVEPKGO_CHUCK said:
Well, credit where credit's due there, surfergal. I mean, a fair % of the time you won't find a lot of hetero women admitting that adult movies is a sexual turn on, even tho a greater% of them are the actual starlettes in the films.
Well, I am not questioning it, Chuck. I'm just saying that since str8 men are the target audience it's not surprising that the women in the films are the draw, so they make the money.
 

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madame_zora said:
...

I'm afraid I'm far too jaded for porn these days, I don't think I could drum up the emotion to appear surprised, titilated, or even interested in the boring scenarios they usually present. ...

Even if I film the scene with you and Claire? You guys get to be in control. Totally.

I actually know a few men who have done gay porn. Their stories are interesting: from photo shoots to solo and sex scenes.
 

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SurferGirlCA said:
Waaaaaaaaaaaaa. Wow, so there's at least one industry in which women are paid more than men. I guess guys will have to satisfy themselves with the 95% of the rest of career fields where women still earn less money for doing the same job.

I think I heard somewhere that in Europe the porn men make a lot more than the women and the actresses are treated pretty shabbily compared to here.
 

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aloofman said:
I think I heard somewhere that in Europe the porn men make a lot more than the women and the actresses are treated pretty shabbily compared to here.

Who knows European porn men, and women? Well, I don't. But I can't imagine production companies being so generous if the actors are widely unorganized, and have neither a lobby, nor a strong spokesman/-woman.

Lex, since neither me nor I think Madame feel bi tendencies, I guess this could only mean the ultimate sex fight:

Zora "Madame" LaTitte

vs.

Claire "Talon" BanGalore
 

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ClaireTalon said:
Who knows European porn men, and women? Well, I don't. But I can't imagine production companies being so generous if the actors are widely unorganized, and have neither a lobby, nor a strong spokesman/-woman.

Lex, since neither me nor I think Madame feel bi tendencies, I guess this could only mean the ultimate sex fight:

Zora "Madame" LaTitte

vs.

Claire "Talon" BanGalore

Oh, I don't want you guys to go at each other--I want you both to devour ME.

I'm sorry if I wasn't clear earlier.

Please spank me now for being bad. Kthanks.
 

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I remember a former friend of mine did a porno once. She got fucked by a family acquaintance (does anyone else think that's kind of gross) for $250. She tried to talk me into going to the shoot and "performing" with him too. I wonder if they even would have given her a finder's fee. She originally told me the shoot would pay $500. I wonder how it got cut down to half.
 

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BronxBombshell said:
I remember a former friend of mine did a porno once. She got fucked by a family acquaintance (does anyone else think that's kind of gross) for $250. She tried to talk me into going to the shoot and "performing" with him too. I wonder if they even would have given her a finder's fee. She originally told me the shoot would pay $500. I wonder how it got cut down to half.

Maybe they were counting on their girls to be so illiterate, they'll take five green bills as 500, while it were just 250. Or it was a full exploitation of the fact that the actors have no one to back them up, and can immediately be replaced by someone else who is more willing, or someone who thinks 500 is much.

In fact, you'll find a lot of resembling items in the "resumés" or bios of porn actresses. Born in some hick town, abuse, a career as a run-away, bad acquaintances, experience as prostitute/stripper and then the porn industry, the crème de la crème of employment in this career. Of course, 250 or 500 is a lot of money then, especially in cash on your hand.
 

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ClaireTalon said:
... In fact, you'll find a lot of resembling items in the "resumés" or bios of porn actresses. Born in some hick town, abuse, a career as a run-away, bad acquaintances, experience as prostitute/stripper and then the porn industry, the crème de la crème of employment in this career. Of course, 250 or 500 is a lot of money then, especially in cash on your hand.
I think that's true. I think some women who go into porn in L.A. view it as just another aspect of "Hollywood" - kinda like the Oscars, but... not. :rolleyes: I guess if they've come from abusive homes/relationships, it might look like a fast ticket to the good life. A lot of these girls end up being paid to hang out as "extras" at parties at the Playboy mansion or at producer's house parties. It's not really known as a crossover area leading to legit film careers, though.
 

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SurferGirlCA said:
I think that's true. I think some women who go into porn in L.A. view it as just another aspect of "Hollywood" - kinda like the Oscars, but... not. :rolleyes: I guess if they've come from abusive homes/relationships, it might look like a fast ticket to the good life. A lot of these girls end up being paid to hang out as "extras" at parties at the Playboy mansion or at producer's house parties. It's not really known as a crossover area leading to legit film careers, though.

It may seem like a good life to them, but nothing long lasting. If they don't manage to become in-/famous for something or make a name within the first five years, they are trashed. Who will employ a former porn actress?

I'm afraid today it might be even harder, with all the cheap internet porn around. I guess while becoming a contract girl for one of the bigger production companies might be the better of the worse options, getting into internet porn will finally doom you.