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Brothers, I really want to get a glimpse into how you see the opposite sex.
I am not here to judge I just want honest answers and real insight, that's all.

So first, here's on background on me and why I am so confused about 100% Gay Psychology.
(Because I have fetishes that are so similar but not actually "homosexual".)

Personally, I am obsessed with the idea of giving women anal sex and so obsessed with their butt-holes and butts to the point that I have little to no interest whatsoever in giving vaginal sex at all.
I have felt this way as long as I can remember about women, which is one big reason I feel porn is the only real outlet for me to experience this to the degree I actually want to or at least close to it.

What I find really strange however is the fact that gay sex IS anal sex to a major degree. I have literally tried to induce in my mind into specifically sexual feelings towards men I already like in other ways just to see if it was possible in me. No matter what, I get majorly turned off by the thought of actually having sex with a man. Like really grossed out at the thought. The smell of men's bodies and their shit is just nasty as hell to me, there is literally no bigger turn-off I can think of.
(I used to seriously hate gayness in men when I was younger, but now I can understand that other people have their own sexual feelings that I will never be able to relate to and I accept that. As my anal and scat obsession towards women is considered REALLY WEIRD and just plain gross by many, including 100% gay men)

I also want some insight into your opinions on these fetishes I have:

I am majorly turned on by Futanari fantasy themes (full-fledged women with penises) and somewhat by transgender men who are very feminine but who still have their penises. I am majorly turned on by my own and other penises, but only if women are attached to them. LOL. Its like the further removed they are from their "maleness" the more I find them sexually attractive (as long as the penis is still fully intact and functioning that is).
But I am NOT attracted to men who have had complete sex changes to full women (THAT turns me off too, because of the genital mutilation factor, that totally turns me off completely)

I just find it really interesting, regarding my major obsession with anal towards women, so much so that scat porn regarding women's poop really turns me on like nothing else can.
But I have ZERO sexual interest towards full, (non-trans) men.

To be very clear, I'm NOT Bi-Curious. I do not want to become bi or gay and do not at all plan on it. Its proven to be impossible anyway. The feelings just aren't there, period.
But why am I so attracted to these 2 very closely related fetishes but at the same time so sexually turned off by full-maleness?

I want your honest opinions on this brothers.

Here are a few questions I have for you: Please answer honestly

1. How is it that you are only sexually attracted to men? I mean I can totally understand Bi-Sexuality. But I do not understand 100% Homosexuality. But I do want more insight into how you internally feel.
2. Do you specifically feel turned off by women or just not feel anything at all one way or the other? Is it just that you do not get turned on at all by women?
3. How is it that the smell of a man and his ass turns you on? Does the smell of a woman and her ass smell more stinky to you or something? Please describe HOW you feel regarding these 2 things.

I mean, personally I'm hugely turned on by the smell of women's poop and everything to do with their butt-holes but when it comes to a guy, the smell is just horrendous every time. Its so fucking gross to me.
I guess, what it comes down to for me is I can't understand HOW a man could not feel sexual attraction to a woman? They exude so many sweet smelling pheromones all the time 24/7.
Their bodies just exude a "cleanliness" factor, that no matter how physically dirty they may be their exuding of pheromones still smells better to me than the best smelling guy.



HELP ME UNDERSTAND YOU BETTER BROTHERS. I have always found that Bi and Gay Men tend to be much more open and far better communicators in general.

Let me say this, I'm a single father who is also gay. I don't have anything against the opposite sex. Which is obvious, because as I said I have a son. But when I hooked up with my son's mother, I let her know what time it was with me and told her not to fall in love. Well despite that,she did. Your fetish is who you are, for some reason your trying to equate that to gay sex makes me wonder, because for man on man sex anal is one of the points of entry as is the mouth. Just because we say we are 100% gay does not mean we are not attracted to females. We are just not attracted the way you think we are. Also in reference to your questions, my answers(can't speak for anyone else). Let me ask you this, how is it that you are only sexually attracted to females? I've had sex with a female and I've had sex with a man, and the man was better. Internally I feel about a man the way you would about a female. I don't feel turned off by a woman, I'm just not turned on sexually by them. I've had women who have grabbed my dick as well as sucked it and I got hard, but then again I was horny as hell and couldn't get to what I wanted. Looking at the way you've posed your questions; 1. Makes me wonder about your age. 2. Leads me a ask whether you've had a same sex experience that was not good. 3. What other issues are you dealing with or running from? You see it's not the smell of a man's ass that turns me on, it's the man overall that turns me on. I don't want anyone male or female who stinks. By the way the same shit you talk about coming out of a man's ass, will also come out of a woman's ass if she is not clean.

You said that you are not here to judge, but that is how you are coming off. You said that you can't understand HOW a man could not feel sexual attraction to a woman? So what do you say about a woman who doesn't feel a sexual attraction to a man? And as far as the sweet smelling pheromones being exuded 24/7, that's not true at all.

You said this "I do not want to become bi or gay and do not at all plan on it. Its proven to be impossible anyway. The feelings just aren't there, period.
But why am I so attracted to these 2 very closely related fetishes but at the same time so sexually turned off by full-maleness?
I do not want to become bi or gay and do not at all plan on it. Its proven to be impossible anyway." Looking at that statement leads me to believe that you are one who believes sexual orientation is a choice. Keep believing, that's your choice. But I'm 50 years old and I've seen and heard many who think as you only to be outed sometime later. I do think that your fetishes is your way of running from who you are, because if you were comfortable with your own sexuality and not questioning it, you would have never even brought up about being gay.
 

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Brothers, I really want to get a glimpse into how you see the opposite sex.
I am not here to judge I just want honest answers and real insight, that's all.

So first, here's on background on me and why I am so confused about 100% Gay Psychology.
(Because I have fetishes that are so similar but not actually "homosexual".)

Personally, I am obsessed with the idea of giving women anal sex and so obsessed with their butt-holes and butts to the point that I have little to no interest whatsoever in giving vaginal sex at all.
I have felt this way as long as I can remember about women, which is one big reason I feel porn is the only real outlet for me to experience this to the degree I actually want to or at least close to it.

What I find really strange however is the fact that gay sex IS anal sex to a major degree. I have literally tried to induce in my mind into specifically sexual feelings towards men I already like in other ways just to see if it was possible in me. No matter what, I get majorly turned off by the thought of actually having sex with a man. Like really grossed out at the thought. The smell of men's bodies and their shit is just nasty as hell to me, there is literally no bigger turn-off I can think of.
(I used to seriously hate gayness in men when I was younger, but now I can understand that other people have their own sexual feelings that I will never be able to relate to and I accept that. As my anal and scat obsession towards women is considered REALLY WEIRD and just plain gross by many, including 100% gay men)

I also want some insight into your opinions on these fetishes I have:

I am majorly turned on by Futanari fantasy themes (full-fledged women with penises) and somewhat by transgender men who are very feminine but who still have their penises. I am majorly turned on by my own and other penises, but only if women are attached to them. LOL. Its like the further removed they are from their "maleness" the more I find them sexually attractive (as long as the penis is still fully intact and functioning that is).
But I am NOT attracted to men who have had complete sex changes to full women (THAT turns me off too, because of the genital mutilation factor, that totally turns me off completely)

I just find it really interesting, regarding my major obsession with anal towards women, so much so that scat porn regarding women's poop really turns me on like nothing else can.
But I have ZERO sexual interest towards full, (non-trans) men.

To be very clear, I'm NOT Bi-Curious. I do not want to become bi or gay and do not at all plan on it. Its proven to be impossible anyway. The feelings just aren't there, period.
But why am I so attracted to these 2 very closely related fetishes but at the same time so sexually turned off by full-maleness?

I want your honest opinions on this brothers.

Here are a few questions I have for you: Please answer honestly

1. How is it that you are only sexually attracted to men? I mean I can totally understand Bi-Sexuality. But I do not understand 100% Homosexuality. But I do want more insight into how you internally feel.
2. Do you specifically feel turned off by women or just not feel anything at all one way or the other? Is it just that you do not get turned on at all by women?
3. How is it that the smell of a man and his ass turns you on? Does the smell of a woman and her ass smell more stinky to you or something? Please describe HOW you feel regarding these 2 things.

I mean, personally I'm hugely turned on by the smell of women's poop and everything to do with their butt-holes but when it comes to a guy, the smell is just horrendous every time. Its so fucking gross to me.
I guess, what it comes down to for me is I can't understand HOW a man could not feel sexual attraction to a woman? They exude so many sweet smelling pheromones all the time 24/7.
Their bodies just exude a "cleanliness" factor, that no matter how physically dirty they may be their exuding of pheromones still smells better to me than the best smelling guy.

HELP ME UNDERSTAND YOU BETTER BROTHERS. I have always found that Bi and Gay Men tend to be much more open and far better communicators in general.


I'll reply because I actually have studied psychology extensively (I've completed a graduate degree in the field and work in it). I can also give my perspective as a 100% gay man.

1st) I do not find women sexually attractive. At all. I don't like the shape of their bodies, I don't like breasts, and I specifically don't like the shape of their asses. I consider myself an ass man and nothing gets my going more than a man's physique/ass. I will eat ass like it's my full time job. Sit on my face, it'll be a while. I also find it incredibly hot to provide pleasure to a man's ass. My job isn't done until you're begging. I just absolutely, zero percent, do not find a woman's body or ass sexually appealing. Don't get me wrong, I think women are beautiful and wonderful, I just see no SEXUAL appeal.

2nd) I think it's worth noting that having a penis does not mean the person is a man. I think what you're struggling with some is the attraction to trans women that still have their penis intact. With trans individuals, they are the gender they say they are. Sounds like you're attracted to women in general, you just don't care what genitals the woman has (an extremely important distinction to remember, genitals does not correlate to gender...gender is a social construct. Biological sex is different).

3rd) With my statements about gender in mind, I do find myself attracted to trans men once their bodies shed some of the feminine aspects. I don't mind the vagina (I'm still going for ass play though) but I will surely drool over a man that has a nice masculine body despite their genitalia.

4th) as long as your fetishes, we could go deep into fixations and yada yada but the point would and will always be A) are your fetishes impacting the quality of your life, B) are your fetishes harming you or others, and C) are your fetishes when acted out consensual? If you can answer those question and feel safe and comfortable, don't worry about why you have the fetish, just enjoy yourself and your healthy sexuality.
 

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Maybe a more direct form or inquiry would be better for self-knowledge? I think your question, or at least part of it, can be summed to "how can I like ass if liking ass is a gay thing and I'm not gay". You have asked how can a man be exclusively attracted to the other men, but that isn't really related to anal sex; a bisexual man is also interest men's asses and in anal sex with men. You are already aware that anal sex is not exclusivity of gay men. So where is the contradiction you feel to have found between your tastes and your self-identification? Can you point to something more specifical?[/

Yes, I definitely know that anal sex is completely independent of orientation. What I am really trying to get at is that even though I am not gay and never will be, there is a sort of hardwired "fix" in my mind towards anal with women that just does not really translate to any substantial interest in vaginal intercourse. I feel I can relate to gay men in the sense that they also have a sort of hard-wiring of automatic attraction towards men. Mainly, I am trying to see in what ways I relate to gay men. I have found that gay men, at least regarding anything sexual always seem so much more open about all of it. I find the conversations pleasant.
I guess what I am getting at is that I have very few people I can actually talk to about my fetishes, gay or straight. But I have found consistently that many more gay men are more open to at least talk about it all and happy to converse about such things.
In certain ways I can relate more to gay men in this regards than straight men.
I am trying to get insight further into why and how 100% gay men can actually feel that way, while at the same time getting further insight into why I feel the way I do about women even thought the internal hard-wiring (for lack of a better word) is different.
 

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Let me say this, I'm a single father who is also gay. I don't have anything against the opposite sex. Which is obvious, because as I said I have a son. But when I hooked up with my son's mother, I let her know what time it was with me and told her not to fall in love. Well despite that,she did. Your fetish is who you are, for some reason your trying to equate that to gay sex makes me wonder, because for man on man sex anal is one of the points of entry as is the mouth. Just because we say we are 100% gay does not mean we are not attracted to females. We are just not attracted the way you think we are. Also in reference to your questions, my answers(can't speak for anyone else). Let me ask you this, how is it that you are only sexually attracted to females? I've had sex with a female and I've had sex with a man, and the man was better. Internally I feel about a man the way you would about a female. I don't feel turned off by a woman, I'm just not turned on sexually by them. I've had women who have grabbed my dick as well as sucked it and I got hard, but then again I was horny as hell and couldn't get to what I wanted. Looking at the way you've posed your questions; 1. Makes me wonder about your age. 2. Leads me a ask whether you've had a same sex experience that was not good. 3. What other issues are you dealing with or running from? You see it's not the smell of a man's ass that turns me on, it's the man overall that turns me on. I don't want anyone male or female who stinks. By the way the same shit you talk about coming out of a man's ass, will also come out of a woman's ass if she is not clean.

You said that you are not here to judge, but that is how you are coming off. You said that you can't understand HOW a man could not feel sexual attraction to a woman? So what do you say about a woman who doesn't feel a sexual attraction to a man? And as far as the sweet smelling pheromones being exuded 24/7, that's not true at all.

You said this "I do not want to become bi or gay and do not at all plan on it. Its proven to be impossible anyway. The feelings just aren't there, period.
But why am I so attracted to these 2 very closely related fetishes but at the same time so sexually turned off by full-maleness?
I do not want to become bi or gay and do not at all plan on it. Its proven to be impossible anyway." Looking at that statement leads me to believe that you are one who believes sexual orientation is a choice. Keep believing, that's your choice. But I'm 50 years old and I've seen and heard many who think as you only to be outed sometime later. I do think that your fetishes is your way of running from who you are, because if you were comfortable with your own sexuality and not questioning it, you would have never even brought up about being gay.

Wow, that is really interesting. I find it amazing that you were comfortable getting married and having sex with a woman and still are 100% gay. Could you explain that a little further? Wouldn't that make you Bi-Sexual? That's a little confusing to me.
After reading your guys' responses, I see now how anal sex is no where near as big of a thing as I thought it was for gay men across the board. (Since its such a big thing for me regarding women, I projected I guess)
Regarding the pheromones. I am referring to the women I find attractive in general, always seem to exude a pleasant smell to me that goes beyond how sweaty or "stinky" they are. I mean, if I get turned on by smelling female scat, its gonna be really hard to turn me off by any other smell that comes from them, lol. I know that sounds gross to alot of people, but its me. I am very comfortable with my fetishes and am happy with the way I am. But I assumed it was more closely related to the way gay men feel toward each other than it really is and that is actually a sigh of relief for me to be honest.

Regarding my age, I am 28 currently.
I mainly emphasize that I am not interested in becoming gay or bi because, even though I do relate to gay and bi men in many ways, I do not feel sexual attraction for them at all, but I do feel a strong emotional attraction.

Example: A Bi-Sexual man recently tried to get me to feel sexually aroused by him and begged me to fuck him in the ass and call him names. He was praising my cock and stuff and showed me pics of his ass. Saying he would dress like a woman and stuff and submit to me. I was truly flattered and tried to go along with the role play, but I plain just wasn't feeling it. It was an online interaction. Sexual attraction is definitely not a choice that is for damn sure. My attraction to women is solid and natural. I was attracted to the fat that he was praising my cock and being submissive that is about it, but not turned on sexually towards him.
When I post sexual discussions about my fetishes people have tended to assume I am gay-curious or bi-curious (physically speaking) which is not accurate. So I feel I always have to re-iterate that point for some reason. I'm Curious to LEARN about the psychology involved yes, not curious to actually GET involved in gay or Bi sex, hell NO. Part of my frustration lies in the fact that I would like to be able to actually have friendships with gay men without them constantly assuming there is a potential for sex with me down the road. Its because I relate emotionally and in other ways, just not in the sexual side of things.
I do relate to men on a very deep emotional level and do find attraction to them but just not at all sexually is what I am getting at. When gay men realize there is no potential for me becoming intimate the friendships just sort of flicker out.
Its hard to explain exactly, but I think you get the idea.

I emphasize this too because many people seem to assume I am open to going that route, and even tough I do want to be able to relate better and feel I do, I need to make clear boundaries so that other men do not get the wrong idea, that's all.
 
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I'll reply because I actually have studied psychology extensively (I've completed a graduate degree in the field and work in it). I can also give my perspective as a 100% gay man.

1st) I do not find women sexually attractive. At all. I don't like the shape of their bodies, I don't like breasts, and I specifically don't like the shape of their asses. I consider myself an ass man and nothing gets my going more than a man's physique/ass. I will eat ass like it's my full time job. Sit on my face, it'll be a while. I also find it incredibly hot to provide pleasure to a man's ass. My job isn't done until you're begging. I just absolutely, zero percent, do not find a woman's body or ass sexually appealing. Don't get me wrong, I think women are beautiful and wonderful, I just see no SEXUAL appeal.

2nd) I think it's worth noting that having a penis does not mean the person is a man. I think what you're struggling with some is the attraction to trans women that still have their penis intact. With trans individuals, they are the gender they say they are. Sounds like you're attracted to women in general, you just don't care what genitals the woman has (an extremely important distinction to remember, genitals does not correlate to gender...gender is a social construct. Biological sex is different).

3rd) With my statements about gender in mind, I do find myself attracted to trans men once their bodies shed some of the feminine aspects. I don't mind the vagina (I'm still going for ass play though) but I will surely drool over a man that has a nice masculine body despite their genitalia.

4th) as long as your fetishes, we could go deep into fixations and yada yada but the point would and will always be A) are your fetishes impacting the quality of your life, B) are your fetishes harming you or others, and C) are your fetishes when acted out consensual? If you can answer those question and feel safe and comfortable, don't worry about why you have the fetish, just enjoy yourself and your healthy sexuality.

Great answer. That is precisely the type of insight I was looking for. I am amazed at how vastly diverse the interests and mindsets are within even the 100% gay community. You hit the nail on the head in many areas. I am very happy with my sexuality personally yes, and I would never even consider forcing anything on anyone (that actually completely turns me off, its only sexy when another wants it). I absolutely adore a dominant male role however (not the bdsm side so much) just kinky dominant stuff, it must always be consensual though.

So help me out here if you could with some insight:
My 2 dilemmas have been the following:

1. I have always felt it was interesting that I love the idea of penises on women so much but I equated them too much with maleness. I assumed this was just a branch off of being Bi or something like that. Which isn't, I realize that now and I am glad honestly. That is precisely why I tend towards cartoon/ Fantasy Futanari stuff more (actual full women born with dicks, thus fantasy) because even though I know that trans-women in the "real world" are officially women when they consider themselves such, I just can't shake the idea that there is still some lingering maleness about them, and that turns me off. It bothers me that that turns me off, yes, but it does. I have to be honest.
2. My anal fetish is so intense that it makes it really hard to have any types of intimate relationships with women at all. I have so much interest in giving anal yet so little interest in vaginal or anything else that I can never figure out how to actually bring this up or explain it to a girl, its really frustrating. The other stuff regarding intimacy almost tends to feel like a chore to me. That is why doing my own porn is my only real outlet for this that I can see. It might seem selfish, but its what turns me on. Its hard as hell to find a woman who shares the same mutual sexual interests as me without her being overly slutty with other men, which also turns me off entirely. I am germa-phobic toward such women and avoid all sexual contact with those types.
What it comes down to is I do not feel I have any sexual outlet except doing my own porn and I wish this was not the case to be honest. Basically I am attracted to a woman who I know is clean, but if I know she is having sex with other men and I don't know who they are or how clean they are I am very germo-phobic to the point I don't feel safe having intercourse in such cases. So this makes finding women for the porn I want to do very challenging. There is a certain type I am looking for. Honestly, I feel like I am stuck between a rock and a hard place.

I am very spiritual and proactive however, but it just seems like the one thing that I want the most in life is passing me by.
My life is great otherwise, but I just want the type of sex and intimacy I desire to actually manifest already.
I'm mainly focusing on penis enlargement right now as I only want to start doing porn once my length is where I want it to be.

Any insight would be highly appreciated :)
 

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I'm not going to respond to your fetishes. They're yours and you are welcome to the them as much as someone is willing to provide them.

1. How is it that you are only sexually attracted to men? I mean I can totally understand Bi-Sexuality. But I do not understand 100% Homosexuality. But I do want more insight into how you internally feel.

Are you asking how I feel towards my husband? I love him deeply. More than I've ever felt for any woman or family member in my life. Any picture of my life without him feels crushing empty.

I wake up each day and go to bed each night thinking that my life is so filled when I am with him. And I tell him that every time I can and in so many little ways. The only way to describe it internally is love.


2. Do you specifically feel turned off by women or just not feel anything at all one way or the other? Is it just that you do not get turned on at all by women?

I enjoy the beauty of a woman. But, I don't feel attracted to that beauty sexually. My physical and emotional response is very different when I see the beauty of a man. It also doesn't have to be physical beauty, but rather the spirit and presence of the man can attract me.

When I am around a man that I find attractive, I visualize what they look like naked and how they respond to my touch. I want to be around them and explore their body and figure out what turns them on.

While I can do that with a woman, my body doesn't respond the same way. It becomes more of a clinical view of what physically I could do. But the sexual ardor doesn't engage.

I can also identify with what a man is feeling. I can intimately understand the mind blow effects of an orgasm and the tell tale signs. And while I suspect a woman feels many of the same things, I am not a woman and can't truly put myself in their place to understand how it feels. If with a woman, I would need the woman to engage in communication to tell me what they felt during sex, and then, I would be engaged in the thoughts and analysis, instead of the feeling.

3. How is it that the smell of a man and his ass turns you on? Does the smell of a woman and her ass smell more stinky to you or something? Please describe HOW you feel regarding these 2 things.

Well, I don't like the smell of shit. It turns me off so fast, it is ridiculous. And, sex between two men is NOT all about anal sex.

However, the musk of a man, that is the subtle scents trigger sexual feelings. They make me feel more animalistic. The subtle smells coming off of a guy are also tied to memories I've had with other guys. They make association.

Now, I have to be blunt, there are some smelly guys that turn my stomach. But smelly women I can't even be around.
 
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I think for gay men, attraction to other men is natural - for us, being gay is not a fetish about anal sex. For myself sex with men including anal sex is very natural. Gay men, generally speaking, are looking for love and sex from other men, and seek to live having emotional fulfilment with men throughout their lives.

The difference in your case is not the specific things that get you horny, but your emotional and psychological isolation. What you find erotic is things not people, or humans with their complete human complexity. In terms of long term fulfilling human relationships, your goals are about penis enlargement and doing porn. That seems very unlikely, and a somewhat bleak future. General human, or even much sexual fulfilment with another actual human being seem remote.

So my question is, if you want anal sex with women, what are you doing about meeting and having anal sex with women? What are the social and emotional skills that you will develop which will help your understanding of another's sexuality? Were I you, I would read and understand about the formation of your own sexuality and fantasy as the first step.

This is the book to start you on a journey to understanding yourself, you might even consider talking to a therapist - once you understand yourself better then the quality of real life human contact will develop and you will learn to understand the sexuality of other human beings for the intimacy you truly need and desire ... then your sexual expression with another will become more frequent and fulfilling:

https://www.amazon.com/Sex-Psyche-Truth-Secret-Fantasies
 

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I'm not going to respond to your fetishes. They're yours and you are welcome to the them as much as someone is willing to provide them.



Are you asking how I feel towards my husband? I love him deeply. More than I've ever felt for any woman or family member in my life. Any picture of my life without him feels crushing empty.

I wake up each day and go to bed each night thinking that my life is so filled when I am with him. And I tell him that every time I can and in so many little ways. The only way to describe it internally is love.




I enjoy the beauty of a woman. But, I don't feel attracted to that beauty sexually. My physical and emotional response is very different when I see the beauty of a man. It also doesn't have to be physical beauty, but rather the spirit and presence of the man can attract me.

When I am around a man that I find attractive, I visualize what they look like naked and how they respond to my touch. I want to be around them and explore their body and figure out what turns them on.

While I can do that with a woman, my body doesn't respond the same way. It becomes more of a clinical view of what physically I could do. But the sexual ardor doesn't engage.

I can also identify with what a man is feeling. I can intimately understand the mind blow effects of an orgasm and the tell tale signs. And while I suspect a woman feels many of the same things, I am not a woman and can't truly put myself in their place to understand how it feels. If with a woman, I would need the woman to engage in communication to tell me what they felt during sex, and then, I would be engaged in the thoughts and analysis, instead of the feeling.



Well, I don't like the smell of shit. It turns me off so fast, it is ridiculous. And, sex between two men is NOT all about anal sex.

However, the musk of a man, that is the subtle scents trigger sexual feelings. They make me feel more animalistic. The subtle smells coming off of a guy are also tied to memories I've had with other guys. They make association.

Now, I have to be blunt, there are some smelly guys that turn my stomach. But smelly women I can't even be around.

Thank you my friend, I appreciate the straight-forward, honest and respectful response. The more I read about other men's interests I feel ever more happy about the uniqueness of my own as well. Considering how natural sexual attraction and orientation is, its amazing just how vastly different sexual inclinations can be. My main mis-assumption was that both gay and straight men who are attracted to anal are also attracted to the smell of fecal matter by default of the sex they are attracted to. Because for me the 2 are so naturally connected there has never been any separation in my mind regarding anal sex and what comes out of the anus.

Personally, I am very glad I am turned on by women and the smell of their poop. At least in this regards it make it easy for me to be turned off by them and really hard to be turned off. What does turn me off however is when a woman has an adamant disgust or refusal to receive anal sex. At that point I feel there is no point in anything further sexual at all with her or intimate at all for that matter. It sucks though, because many beautiful women who I really love in other ways I just can't be with intimately if they refuse anal altogether or only do it to please me. They have to be turned on by the idea of receiving it to some degree for me to even feel comfortable doing it.
 

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I think for gay men, attraction to other men is natural - for us, being gay is not a fetish about anal sex. For myself sex with men including anal sex is very natural. Gay men, generally speaking, are looking for love and sex from other men, and seek to live having emotional fulfilment with men throughout their lives.

The difference in your case is not the specific things that get you horny, but your emotional and psychological isolation. What you find erotic is things not people, or humans with their complete human complexity. In terms of long term fulfilling human relationships, your goals are about penis enlargement and doing porn. That seems very unlikely, and a somewhat bleak future. General human, or even much sexual fulfillment with another actual human being seem remote.

So my question is, if you want anal sex with women, what are you doing about meeting and having anal sex with women? What are the social and emotional skills that you will develop which will help your understanding of another's sexuality? Were I you, I would read and understand about the formation of your own sexuality and fantasy as the first step.

This is the book to start you on a journey to understanding yourself, you might even consider talking to a therapist - once you understand yourself better then the quality of real life human contact will develop and you will learn to understand the sexuality of other human beings for the intimacy you truly need and desire ... then your sexual expression with another will become more frequent and fulfilling:

https://www.amazon.com/Sex-Psyche-Truth-Secret-Fantasies

Thanks for the reference, I appreciate it. I understand what you mean. I like getting another's perspective on these things to see in from the outside so to speak. Yes, I find that I actually am turned on by "things" more as you put it, as in, I find cartoon porn, Futanari fantasy, women's butt-holes, the idea of synthetic sex robots, etc. all very arousing to a major degree. But personally I do not see it that I am turned on by "things", I guess what I am saying is I am obsessed by physical forms and for me this is 100% linked up with personality and the whole person. I feel this has somewhat to do with my spiritual practice which I love with all my heart. I am turned on by Deities on altars and thing like that a ton. Sanctified temple environments get my cock rock hard like you would not believe, LOL.

I am very happy I have my unique fetishes but the nature of my sexual interests tends to isolate me from the full experience of intimacy like you said and that is exactly what bothers me. I honestly feel that even with the full intimacy in place, I would not feel satisfied unless my fetish desires were fulfilled at the same time. But I am always optimistic about these things.

Some of the steps towards my actual goals are the following:
I have indeed been embracing my fetish more and more as the years go by.
I have seen great results already PE wise, but even now I am already happy with my size at 7.5 inches long, I just want to be longer.
I am majorly looking forward to fully customizable, synthetic female sex robots coming in. These are the ones I plan on doing porn with and becoming famous from. No need to deal with all the hassle of an organic woman's constantly changing mind and fluctuating sexual arousal levels. If organic women want to take part, they are fully welcome, but I mostly plan on doing my own porn with synthetics to begin with at least.

Honestly with therapy, the only way I have felt comfortable with counseling and or therapy in the past is to have it done with an attractive woman. Same with going to the doctor. All I can think about the entire time is giving the therapist deep anal.
Its like this actual physiological need I have vs. a "want".

I have counseled with men before but it always seems to irritate me in spite of many good points they may bring up. It seems to have had no real effect, because I don't want to change, I need what I need/want what I want (for me there has never seemed to be any real difference between my needs and wants in terms of how I feel about things that interest me sexually)
All I can really think about is getting a female counselor or therapist, so I can fantasize about her butt and all the other things I find attractive about her. I can't separate sexual thoughts and feelings from being listened to by a woman who has compassion and my well-being in mind. That in and of itself turns me on towards her. On a sexual level, no matter where I am or who I am with, I always feel other men are just "in the way" of me being spontaneous and alone with women.
 

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Thanks for the reference, I appreciate it. I understand what you mean. I like getting another's perspective on these things to see in from the outside so to speak. Yes, I find that I actually am turned on by "things" more as you put it, as in, I find cartoon porn, Futanari fantasy, women's butt-holes, the idea of synthetic sex robots, etc. all very arousing to a major degree. But personally I do not see it that I am turned on by "things", I guess what I am saying is I am obsessed by physical forms and for me this is 100% linked up with personality and the whole person. I feel this has somewhat to do with my spiritual practice which I love with all my heart. I am turned on by Deities on altars and thing like that a ton. Sanctified temple environments get my cock rock hard like you would not believe, LOL.

I am very happy I have my unique fetishes but the nature of my sexual interests tends to isolate me from the full experience of intimacy like you said and that is exactly what bothers me. I honestly feel that even with the full intimacy in place, I would not feel satisfied unless my fetish desires were fulfilled at the same time. But I am always optimistic about these things.

Some of the steps towards my actual goals are the following:
I have indeed been embracing my fetish more and more as the years go by.
I have seen great results already PE wise, but even now I am already happy with my size at 7.5 inches long, I just want to be longer.
I am majorly looking forward to fully customizable, synthetic female sex robots coming in. These are the ones I plan on doing porn with and becoming famous from. No need to deal with all the hassle of an organic woman's constantly changing mind and fluctuating sexual arousal levels. If organic women want to take part, they are fully welcome, but I mostly plan on doing my own porn with synthetics to begin with at least.

Honestly with therapy, the only way I have felt comfortable with counseling and or therapy in the past is to have it done with an attractive woman. Same with going to the doctor. All I can think about the entire time is giving the therapist deep anal.
Its like this actual physiological need I have vs. a "want".

I have counseled with men before but it always seems to irritate me in spite of many good points they may bring up. It seems to have had no real effect, because I don't want to change, I need what I need/want what I want (for me there has never seemed to be any real difference between my needs and wants in terms of how I feel about things that interest me sexually)
All I can really think about is getting a female counselor or therapist, so I can fantasize about her butt and all the other things I find attractive about her. I can't separate sexual thoughts and feelings from being listened to by a woman who has compassion and my well-being in mind. That in and of itself turns me on towards her. On a sexual level, no matter where I am or who I am with, I always feel other men are just "in the way" of me being spontaneous and alone with women.

That is an interesting reply - the point is that you could be having anal sex with a woman you love, who is on the same wave length as you - everyday of your life - possibly even a professional therapist, lol they are out there. It would go some way to addressing your overall wellbeing - adult relationships are how we grow from childhood trauma. The difficulty you would have in finding a therapist is that they generally aren't as bright as you are, and you would easily avoid dealing with the issues that it would be in your own best interests to attend to - and at the same time give you the best chance at having the most sex of the kind you like for the rest of your life, everyday and more than once a day.

I'd encourage you to put at least as much energy into your personal life as your fantasy world. Your cock while not that big, deserves a chance in the real world. To be honest you would need to grow another inch and a half for anyone to want to see you fuck anything from my point of view, so I'm not sure that a porn career, as a star, is really for you. Then you will need to work on your body and face - we don't know how much work or surgery will be required there. And how will you actually support yourself and have a decent life - in the real world I mean?

I love your commitment to fetishism, spiritual / tantric sex (if that is what it is), getting a big cock and anal sex, but I also think if you package yourself carefully, an "organic" woman might find you are just what she is looking for, plus you might find a deeper happiness and contentment than you are currently planning for yourself.
 
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1. How is it that you are only sexually attracted to men? I mean I can totally understand Bi-Sexuality. But I do not understand 100% Homosexuality. But I do want more insight into how you internally feel.
2. Do you specifically feel turned off by women or just not feel anything at all one way or the other? Is it just that you do not get turned on at all by women?
3. How is it that the smell of a man and his ass turns you on? Does the smell of a woman and her ass smell more stinky to you or something? Please describe HOW you feel regarding these 2 things.


Honestly Scotty I think it is largely genetic wiring.
1) No idea I just always have been attracted to my own kind as far back as I can remember even before I understood the sexual implications of it all. I find the male body to be the hottest thing ever and mating with guys is pure masculine bliss. It was never a conscious choice, I just enjoy mating with other guys. As a plus, at least for me, guys are always horny so we are way easier at sex.
2. Women can be beautiful but I have zero sexual attraction to them.
3. As a gym rat nothing gets me horned up more than the scent of another male. That said, as a masculine muscle bottom I do keep my ass clean and expect such grooming from my sex partners. Not a fan of colognes or perfumed soaps either as they tend to overwhelm the natural male scent.
 
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Fetishism is not the same as sexuality. A person can have a fetish for any number of ideas or objects that has nothing to do with their sexual attraction to a gender - so in that regard what you describe about yourself is perfectly normal. Fetishism is about psychological obsession(s), sexual or otherwise, which can stem from a very large number of environmental or biological conditions over the course of a lifetime. Sexually speaking, most of the time these are harmless in and of themselves - people like cartoon sex, or socks, or feet, or leather, or panties, or vaginas or butts/assholes or legs or boobs, or diapers or superhero costumes, or whatever. Think Rule 32: if it exists, there is porn of it, because someone out there is turned on by it. That's fetishism in a nutshell.

So when you wonder about why 100% gay men love only other men, why we enjoy sex only with other men, you are confusing your own fetishistic ideals with genuine homosexuality. Being gay or not gay has nothing to do with having a fetish for men - being gay means you are biologically attracted to and driven to "procreate" with other men. If you the OP obsess over a transgender man that hardly means you are gay - it means you've developed, for whatever reason, an interest. Given what you stated about your love of various Japanese subcultures, this isn't really a surprise at all. A lot of people have the same appreciation and they are not gay - these manga have been around for decades in Japan, popular among men and women. Young heterosexual girls read manga about transgender men and a slew of other "taboo" topics. That's the fetish. It's not about the actual biological sexuality.

As for your questions - I don't dislike women, but if you are 100% gay you have no desire whatsoever to sleep with a woman. If Kate Upton was naked in front of me I'd hand her a bathrobe and look away, until she was dressed. But if, say, "The Rock" Johnson was standing naked in front of me I'd drop to my knees and lick every inch of his body. LMAO (Personal tastes vary, of course. He happens to be mine.)

I've always described it this way: a straight man can look at another man and appreciate his appearance, in an objective way: he keeps in shape, he dresses well, his hair is cut well, he is always in style, or he's a cool bro, etc. etc. None of that means the dude looking at him is gay. In the same way, I as a gay man can objectively look at women and have the exact same feelings. She is put together, smart, energetic, stylish, beautiful - but I have zero desire to get into bed with her, I'm merely able to observe that she has those qualities and I can appreciate them. On the other hand, an "average guy" might walk by me and I might want to jump him right then and there! That's the difference in attraction.
 

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That is an interesting reply - the point is that you could be having anal sex with a woman you love, who is on the same wave length as you - everyday of your life - possibly even a professional therapist, lol they are out there. It would go some way to addressing your overall wellbeing - adult relationships are how we grow from childhood trauma. The difficulty you would have in finding a therapist is that they generally aren't as bright as you are, and you would easily avoid dealing with the issues that it would be in your own best interests to attend to - and at the same time give you the best chance at having the most sex of the kind you like for the rest of your life, everyday and more than once a day.

I'd encourage you to put at least as much energy into your personal life as your fantasy world. Your cock while not that big, deserves a chance in the real world. To be honest you would need to grow another inch and a half for anyone to want to see you fuck anything from my point of view, so I'm not sure that a porn career, as a star, is really for you. Then you will need to work on your body and face - we don't know how much work or surgery will be required there. And how will you actually support yourself and have a decent life - in the real world I mean?

I love your commitment to fetishism, spiritual / tantric sex (if that is what it is), getting a big cock and anal sex, but I also think if you package yourself carefully, an "organic" woman might find you are just what she is looking for, plus you might find a deeper happiness and contentment than you are currently planning for yourself.

Good points. I've decided that If a girl wants to come along for the ride great, but I have stopped seeking organic women, they've gotta come to me at this point of their own accord and really want to be with me on their end. I genuinely find synthetic women far more attractive and I will be famous doing porn with them that is of a unique style which the world has not seen yet.

However some important points to be honest. I am concerned about your perception of penis size and here is why: I am actually being honest about my penis size while most men, even those on here are not. Though your statements of "your not that big" (which is not true) only inspire me to enlarge further and confirm my choice to do so even more. Women already consider my size well above average and absolutely perfect in fact. I want to be longer for my own pleasure, but my size is already seen as large, especially by women. Being longer is my personal desire but by no means a necessity to become famous in porn and known for having a big cock.

Here are some true facts about "big cocks" in porn: Even the absolute longest penises in mainstream "big cock" porn are only about 8.5-9 inches long in reality. Mandingo himself is only 9-9.5 inches max and that is being generous and he is known as having visually the longest cock in straight, mainstream porn to most people who watch porn. I have spent countless hours analyzing footage in this regards and attending forums on it, etc. One of my big life goals is to be longer than Mandingo visually on camera, and I will get there, thus all the work I put in to getting a realistic estimate on how long his penis actually is (cutting out all the porn hype and assumptions)
To date there have been ZERO confirmed 10 inch or longer penises accurately measured anywhere photographically in the entire world.
Many of the very world-famous "big cocks" that everyone thinks are super huge are around my size and many are even shorter. Examples: Johnny Sins, Keiran Lee, Chriss Strokes, Shane Diesel, Shorty Mac, Omar, etc. ALL measure at or about the 7-8 inch range, and that is yet again being generous, so I don't understand where you get the idea that "I'm not that big" at 7.5 inches long and growing. I could easily lie and say I am 8-8.5 and most people in the world would actually believe it visually speaking, but I am not a liar like most men, so I don't. I have done research and I am already longer Erect than over 95% of the population, Flaccid I'm longer than 99% (that came as a happy surprise to me) and girth-wise (which I am 100% satisfied with already) I measure longer than at least 80% of men.
So I'm not sure where you are getting your numbers brother about "big" size. Although I would like to know.
I'm enlarging anyway, so I will get there soon. As far as my body, I'm already really good-looking in the face and in really good shape, athletic, etc. I have Zero issues in either department. I have never had any insecurity about my facial looks especially.
Its only the business side of porn I need to perfect, the "real life" side. Everything else is ago.
 

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Honestly Scotty I think it is largely genetic wiring.
1) No idea I just always have been attracted to my own kind as far back as I can remember even before I understood the sexual implications of it all. I find the male body to be the hottest thing ever and mating with guys is pure masculine bliss. It was never a conscious choice, I just enjoy mating with other guys. As a plus, at least for me, guys are always horny so we are way easier at sex.
2. Women can be beautiful but I have zero sexual attraction to them.
3. As a gym rat nothing gets me horned up more than the scent of another male. That said, as a masculine muscle bottom I do keep my ass clean and expect such grooming from my sex partners. Not a fan of colognes or perfumed soaps either as they tend to overwhelm the natural male scent.

Nice answer, thanks. Yeah it really is genetically wired in. Like I said, I have literally tried to induce sexual feeling towards men in all seriousness to see if it was possible, but I just couldn't no matter how hard I tried to do so. And this was towards men mind you who are very good looking and who I am very attracted to emotionally and in other ways. So that confirmed it for me. I am 100% straight and always will be an I am happy about that. I appreciate the uniqueness in each person.

Although I do wish that women were as frequently horny as men, what a nicer world that would be! I could easily get a man in bed within hours if I was Bi or Gay, that would be no issue at all for me. My situation is I am so fixated on my anal fetish towards women that its like seen as weird by most of them. So I turn to the synthetic babes now coming in as my main focus. If an organic girl wants to join me, and is willing to take anal, then bravo, she can come along for the ride. LOL
 

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Fetishism is not the same as sexuality. A person can have a fetish for any number of ideas or objects that has nothing to do with their sexual attraction to a gender - so in that regard what you describe about yourself is perfectly normal. Fetishism is about psychological obsession(s), sexual or otherwise, which can stem from a very large number of environmental or biological conditions over the course of a lifetime. Sexually speaking, most of the time these are harmless in and of themselves - people like cartoon sex, or socks, or feet, or leather, or panties, or vaginas or butts/assholes or legs or boobs, or diapers or superhero costumes, or whatever. Think Rule 32: if it exists, there is porn of it, because someone out there is turned on by it. That's fetishism in a nutshell.

So when you wonder about why 100% gay men love only other men, why we enjoy sex only with other men, you are confusing your own fetishistic ideals with genuine homosexuality. Being gay or not gay has nothing to do with having a fetish for men - being gay means you are biologically attracted to and driven to "procreate" with other men. If you the OP obsess over a transgender man that hardly means you are gay - it means you've developed, for whatever reason, an interest. Given what you stated about your love of various Japanese subcultures, this isn't really a surprise at all. A lot of people have the same appreciation and they are not gay - these manga have been around for decades in Japan, popular among men and women. Young heterosexual girls read manga about transgender men and a slew of other "taboo" topics. That's the fetish. It's not about the actual biological sexuality.

As for your questions - I don't dislike women, but if you are 100% gay you have no desire whatsoever to sleep with a woman. If Kate Upton was naked in front of me I'd hand her a bathrobe and look away, until she was dressed. But if, say, "The Rock" Johnson was standing naked in front of me I'd drop to my knees and lick every inch of his body. LMAO (Personal tastes vary, of course. He happens to be mine.)

I've always described it this way: a straight man can look at another man and appreciate his appearance, in an objective way: he keeps in shape, he dresses well, his hair is cut well, he is always in style, or he's a cool bro, etc. etc. None of that means the dude looking at him is gay. In the same way, I as a gay man can objectively look at women and have the exact same feelings. She is put together, smart, energetic, stylish, beautiful - but I have zero desire to get into bed with her, I'm merely able to observe that she has those qualities and I can appreciate them. On the other hand, an "average guy" might walk by me and I might want to jump him right then and there! That's the difference in attraction.

Thank you for the detailed response. I like your descriptions. You and other men have confirmed what I needed confirmed 100% and that is that my interest in penises has nothing to do with me being bi curious at all, which I am very happy about.
The fact that even 100% gay men see it that way is a sigh of relief to me. I guess its just been hard for me to separate my fetishism from sexuality as the 2 have been so balled up together its caused confusion a bit. So other perspectives looking in were desired. To be honest, I almost feel like I am none of the 3: straight, bi, or gay (which are just labels anyway) but I feel like I should actually be making clear that I am something else to people who ask.
The exact term I do not know yet, but any ideas would be appreciated.
Its like saying I am "straight" just doesn't fit the bill for some reason. I honestly would like to be known in the porn I will be doing as a big cock "pervert" and stuff like that, LOL. I sort of find pride in being seen as gross, perverse and creepy in a promotional sense desirable LOL.
 

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I've never felt any attraction to boobs or pussies. Woman are wonderful human beings, but they don't make my dick hard. As far as smells go, I've never got close enough to notice, or be attracted. When it comes to a guy, however, I am one. So any pheromones present I am well acquainted with, and am not turned off by (otherwise, I couldn't stand myself). For me, it's like being a writer would probably make me very interested in other writers, or being a chef would draw me to other chefs--we would have so much in common. The same goes for cock owners. I know how my plumbing works, and know that getting down and dirty with another cock owner will be something I can relate well to. I know what makes a guy feel good, and I expect he will know what will make me feel good. It's not that I'm attracted because it's easier to play with another male, but it is. It always seems awkward and sort of strange to me that a guy would venture into a foreign land looking for pleasure and fulfillment. Perhaps the thrill and challenge of the conquest is part of it. As an aside, I've also wondered why many straight guys think two girls should enjoy pleasuring each other (with themselves as an audience) but think it's absolutely weird for two guys to pleasure each other (with or without an audience).
 
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Nice answer, thanks. Yeah it really is genetically wired in. Like I said, I have literally tried to induce sexual feeling towards men in all seriousness to see if it was possible, but I just couldn't no matter how hard I tried to do so. And this was towards men mind you who are very good looking and who I am very attracted to emotionally and in other ways. So that confirmed it for me. I am 100% straight and always will be an I am happy about that. I appreciate the uniqueness in each person.

Although I do wish that women were as frequently horny as men, what a nicer world that would be! I could easily get a man in bed within hours if I was Bi or Gay, that would be no issue at all for me. My situation is I am so fixated on my anal fetish towards women that its like seen as weird by most of them. So I turn to the synthetic babes now coming in as my main focus. If an organic girl wants to join me, and is willing to take anal, then bravo, she can come along for the ride. LOL
I'm quite surprised that you can't find any women who are into anal - it seems such a staple of straight porn and surely not that unusual or weird? I have a fetish for vaginas.
 
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I'm quite surprised that you can't find any women who are into anal - it seems such a staple of straight porn and surely not that unusual or weird? I have a fetish for vaginas.

Well to be honest with you getting into any kind of close intimacy is difficult as hell for my type of personality let alone anal.
Even then, most women seem to just accept it but not be fully into it even if they may enjoy it somewhat, it usually takes aside seat. It really is a porn staple yes, which is exactly why I am putting together my own porn company. So I can go all out with it.
That is also why I love the idea of working with synthetic dolls and later sex robots, cause you do not need to pay them and once purchases, they never need to have all their makeup done, etc. Although I love the look of women without makeup, it turns me on alot, most organic women are obsessed with having it on for being on camera.
 

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I've never felt any attraction to boobs or pussies. Woman are wonderful human beings, but they don't make my dick hard. As far as smells go, I've never got close enough to notice, or be attracted. When it comes to a guy, however, I am one. So any pheromones present I am well acquainted with, and am not turned off by (otherwise, I couldn't stand myself). For me, it's like being a writer would probably make me very interested in other writers, or being a chef would draw me to other chefs--we would have so much in common. The same goes for cock owners. I know how my plumbing works, and know that getting down and dirty with another cock owner will be something I can relate well to. I know what makes a guy feel good, and I expect he will know what will make me feel good. It's not that I'm attracted because it's easier to play with another male, but it is. It always seems awkward and sort of strange to me that a guy would venture into a foreign land looking for pleasure and fulfillment. Perhaps the thrill and challenge of the conquest is part of it. As an aside, I've also wondered why many straight guys think two girls should enjoy pleasuring each other (with themselves as an audience) but think it's absolutely weird for two guys to pleasure each other (with or without an audience).

Interesting. Thanks for the thoughtful response. Well, I can tell you that the turn on seeing women have sex for a man is the fact that neither of them have penises, so there is no feeling of voyeuristic competitiveness while watching as in watching a man with a woman.
Its actually a really big deal and turn on, especially for men with average sized penises or shorter, the fact that 2 women without penises are fully pleasuring each other without the need for any penises at all. It gives all straight man a sense of relief, because no matter what size you are you are still bigger than the girls in the scene who have no penises at all. I hope that makes sense.

Also, there is the fantasizing of your penis coming in between both their bodies and being the center of attention of other viewers (fantasizing you are in the scene as the only guy and the only one with a long cock). More than anything it is the sweet delicateness shown between women, the fact that they are being so careful with one another and gentle is so innocent and girly, thus making a straight man feel more manly and powerful seeing it happen.
 
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Location
Boston (Massachusetts, United States)
Verification
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Sexuality
100% Gay, 0% Straight
Gender
Male
HELP ME UNDERSTAND YOU BETTER BROTHERS. I have always found that Bi and Gay Men tend to be much more open and far better communicators in general.

1. How is it that you are only sexually attracted to men?
I have never felt a hint of arousal for or attraction to women...not any woman/not ever. What else can I say?

2. Do you specifically feel turned off by women or just not feel anything at all one way or the other? Is it just that you do not get turned on at all by women?
I don't get turned on by women and if I were honest I'd admit women are a complete turnoff in a sexual context.

3. How is it that the smell of a man and his ass turns you on? The smell of a man's ass (if, unfortunately there's an odor) is not only a turnoff but will stop a sexual encounter. Being 100% homo (like me) has nothing to do with liking poo, ass smells or puckered holes, etc. Excessive odors mean we're taking a shower.

A "gay" man is a guy exclusively physically and emotionally attracted to other men...everything else is just preference. Many gay guys don't fit the stereotypes. Just because you love guys you don't automatically want to dive into butt. We gays are kind of diverse.