100% straight - here's why guys are better for head:)

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I think you gay guys need to take some responsibility for the animosity.

The entire thread is about how a woman couldn't do what that guy is doing. Give me a break! The title of thread is just provocative. Why the need to be better? Just enjoy your sexuality without putting others down.
 

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Stronzo said:
Ah, yes. The scratch & sniff installment. I heard about that one.

I love a good oral cumshot, but TI goes a little overboard sometimes. The last one I saw, before I took a break from them, featured a guy taking cum from cock after cock in a gloryhole, spitting it out into a glass, and at the end Damon poured this huge glass of cum & saliva down the guy's throat, pausing every few seconds to allow him to swallow.

I think it's about time to start renting again.
 

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I can definitely confirm that was a Treasure Island clip filmed last year in Phoenix. I can actually give you the address where it was filmed....it's my best friend's back yard and he's just as big as the skater on a 5'7" frame.
 

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chinagirl73 said:
I think you gay guys need to take some responsibility for the animosity.

The entire thread is about how a woman couldn't do what that guy is doing. Give me a break! The title of thread is just provocative. Why the need to be better? Just enjoy your sexuality without putting others down.

It's a premise chinagirl.

Many str8 men I've enjoyed have commented that "gay men give better head than women". During my heterosexual misadventures I noticed that women generally didn't "crave cock" like we gay dudes do (generally I'm saying here not entirely).

Indeed most women who've performed oral on me only did so as an obligatory action. (yawn)

Bottom line? Since we're gay we appreciate cock. Can we get some credit here for being good at sucking it without these feebs dropping by to say "oh he'd look more interested if it was a girl performing it on him"?:rolleyes: Pleeeeze.

I agree that the thread title was a bit inflamatory but the gist of the thing isn't lost on me. And these nitwits who need to assert there heterosexuality by doing these ":puke:" only come off seeming homophobic or just plain insecure.

There. That's my responsiblity in this thing.
 

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2 comments on the video clip:

1) If the guy is who I think he is, he's a male prostitute in Phoenix which might have something to do with his less than passionate response to getting his cock sucked (referring back to my 'expert vs. peer' comment)

2) What I found most disheartening about the clip was the videography, which involved way too much walking around the performers and was not as focused on the action as it should have been. T.I.M. is notorious for its "gonzo-style" videography, but even this wasn't up to their usual standards.

Nonetheless, the guy's dick is awesome, and the way Damon deep throats it is masterful.
 

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Kotchanski said:
Here's my view on it..

I give amazing head and love doing it, my husband passed out twice because it was so intense (I've toned it down for his sake now, it gave him a terrible headache after)

I'm not offended by the thread title as I see it as meaning men generally know what feels best from their own experiences so generally are better than women, which I agree with, women who enjoy it, put in the enthusism needed and actually pay attention to the reactions they get when doing it have just as much chance at doing it well as any guy.

Men and women who think its just a case of opening your mouth and bobbing like a nodding dog in the back window of a car, suck at it (pardon the expression) equally.

No one is the same, no one likes exactly the same and we all do things differently, knowledge is a bonus as long as you use it, men by gender get more knowledge than women, we have to ask questions and be aware of reactions (before someone gets ahead of themselves, I am talking about giving head, nothing more, nothing less).


I agree with you wholeheartedly. How does one become good at anything? Instruction, skill and practice. That's what I should have clarified in my last post. A desire to learn and marked enthusiasm are essential. I love learning about the little things someone likes that others may not.

Knowledge is power.
 

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Agreed, this sounds like a thread bashing/slamming straight females. However, he's got a point, there are straight women that want 8, 9, 10", even larger, when they haven't figured out what to do with 4, 5 or 6". What would they do with even more penis, be just as bad at their end of the bargain ? I've had my share of straight partner's that were so pleased with themselves after the deed and were obviously gloating from what they perceived as their accomplishment. Thought to myself, why burst their bubble, if only they realized how much of that I did for myself and on my own ? I give the women an opportunity to prove their worth early, if they aren't getting it done, I take over and be responsible for what I need to get and move on. I'm sure I've probably failed a few women too in that regard. That's ok, I got miine and moved on too. I sure hope they had the common sense to go find what they were after just the same. I don't take it personally, I hope they don't either.
 

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Kotchanski said:
Here's my view on it..

I give amazing head and love doing it, my husband passed out twice because it was so intense (I've toned it down for his sake now, it gave him a terrible headache after)

I'm not offended by the thread title as I see it as meaning men generally know what feels best from their own experiences so generally are better than women, which I agree with, women who enjoy it, put in the enthusism needed and actually pay attention to the reactions they get when doing it have just as much chance at doing it well as any guy.

Men and women who think its just a case of opening your mouth and bobbing like a nodding dog in the back window of a car, suck at it (pardon the expression) equally.

No one is the same, no one likes exactly the same and we all do things differently, knowledge is a bonus as long as you use it, men by gender get more knowledge than women, we have to ask questions and be aware of reactions (before someone gets ahead of themselves, I am talking about giving head, nothing more, nothing less).

This proves very little just the same, but a very good example and not intended as a direct cheap shot at you personally. But I can tell you firsthand there have been many times that when gametime was @ hand, I played with injury, that is, with a minor headache to as bad as a throbbing migraine. How much of that headache did he have going into the session that you were even aware of. I can even tell you that the migraine was minor and that sex alleviated it temporarily, but the resultant ejaculation amplified it even more. All anyone can do is the best they can do under the circumstances.
 

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mercurialbliss said:
The premise of this thread has no merit and is bullshit. It's insulting and nothing more than a conspiracy theory.

I've had no complaints and i'm quite sure females who enjoy fellatio are not in the minority.

Yes. The operative word is "enjoy" here. And I do think women like you are a minority generally.

I agree the thread premise ought to be bullshit. But again much as men enjoy oral stimulation many heterosexual females are not encouraged to enjoy it given the imbalance of how sexuality is presented to men versus women in this society.

When recounting my own experience I said what had been only my experience. Women, by-in-large, do not want dicks in their mouths. Many have a sort of "ewwwww" sense of it. That's been my experience. Of course here at a site called the "Large Penis Support Group" you're bound to find more liberated women with more legitimate attitudes about sex per se.

That said, I can understand MB how you'd be offended at the premise. Were I a heterosexual woman who enjoyed oral sex with her mate I'd feel as Kotchanski and you do. I take exception to the male hets who have dismissed that video as somehow "unwatchable" or "better" had a woman been providing the service. That is all.

As to fellow with the ":puke:" comment? He can go fuck himself. But I doubt it would reach...:rolleyes:
 

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transformer_99 said:
...However, he's got a point, there are straight women that want 8, 9, 10", even larger, when they haven't figured out what to do with 4, 5 or 6". What would they do with even more penis, be just as bad at their end of the bargain ? ...
Trust me, there are gay boys that are the same way. After a guy I know could barely manage to only get about 4" of me in his mouth before choking, and then moved to literally giving me "head" for the remainder of the session, I was a bit peaved when chatting with him a week or so later, when he told me he was "no offense, but really looking for something bigger." (I'm very contently on the upper end of avg.) Um... WHAT??? This from a guy that could barely handle more than an inch of me, where meanwhile, he's pushing on the back of my head, as my chin is slamming into his pubes, he's moaning through his nose, and his thighs are quivering around my head. I didn't bother berating him with any of this, and instead asked, just out of curiosity, "Oh, that's cool. So, how big ARE you looking for?" He told me that he'd been looking for a legit 8". I just felt sorry for the soon-to-be-disappointed Mr. 8.

As an aside, yes, it could be that he just wasn't interested, but then if that were the case, it seems he would've just cum and gone, and not gotten off twice, and hard a third time before finally pulling me off when we realized the time.
 

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Stronzo said:
As to fellow with the ":puke:" comment? He can go fuck himself. But I doubt it would reach...:rolleyes:

Low Blows, Chief....:rolleyes: He was a one time poster. I bet he realizes that this site isn't for him, and he has left... never to return.
 

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Stronzo said:
Yes. The operative word is "enjoy" here. And I do think women like you are a minority generally.

I agree the thread premise ought to be bullshit. But again much as men enjoy oral stimulation many heterosexual females are not encouraged to enjoy it given the imbalance of how sexuality is presented to men versus women in this society.

When recounting my own experience I said what had been only my experience. Women, by-in-large, do not want dicks in their mouths. Many have a sort of "ewwwww" sense of it. That's been my experience. Of course here at a site called the "Large Penis Support Group" you're bound to find more liberated women with more legitimate attitudes about sex per se.

That said, I can understand MB how you'd be offended at the premise. Were I a heterosexual woman who enjoyed oral sex with her mate I'd feel as Kotchanski and you do. I take exception to the male hets who have dismissed that video as somehow "unwatchable" or "better" had a woman been providing the service. That is all.

As to fellow with the ":puke:" comment? He can go fuck himself. But I doubt it would reach...:rolleyes:

By the same token, I could say that men in general don't know how to perform cunnilingus because they're not women and don't know firsthand what we like. I've had lovers who had no idea what to do when they went downtown and were miffed when I tried to provide direction, something I would want them to do for me if the roles were reversed and I wasn't satisfying them. And there are men who don't like it and are perfunctory in their delivery when they do it.

I refuse to say or believe that most men are incapable of knowing how to please a woman. My experience is that if they so desire and are willing to learn and explore there are no limits to my enjoyment. I feel the same can and should be said for women. I've spent too much time talking to other women about sex and only one of my girlfriends doesn't like fellatio at all. The others enjoy it.

I feel the title of the thread is another useless sweeping generalization. It's obvious a gay man is going to think this video is hot (personally, I found it pleasing to watch) but i'd like to have more concrete proof that women can't do the same for a man besides "it's my experience". It's also obvious that a gay man would probably not find that same video as hot if a woman were performing the act on the recipient, so of course the OP would think that a woman couldn't do this. If you're not attracted to women, getting head from one won't do the trick for you. A woman might be able to navigate around my downtown area more easily, but I won't enjoy it because i'm straight.
 

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jeff black said:
...He was a one time poster. I bet he realizes that this site isn't for him, and he has left... never to return.
Well, only here. I mean, the barfing poster was cofrader, and he's actually got 16 posts now, and was here as recently as yesterday. I think he just decided this thread wasn't for him.

Now where is the link we were promised to download the original vid. Hmmm HH11x7? :wink:
 

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mercurialbliss said:
By the same token, I could say that men in general don't know how to perform cunnilingus because they're not women and don't know firsthand what we like. I've had lovers who had no idea what to do when they went downtown and were miffed when I tried to provide direction, something I would want them to do for me if the roles were reversed and I wasn't satisfying them. And there are men who don't like it and are perfunctory in their delivery when they do it.

Well yes perhaps you could put that forth as a premise. You'd know better than I. Possibly it's inherently (generally) true too. But I will tell you personally that I like performing it and found it often more erotic than vaginal sex given the responses of the women on the receiving end of my skills (however good or bad I was at it).

I refuse to say or believe that most men are incapable of knowing how to please a woman. My experience is that if they so desire and are willing to learn and explore there are no limits to my enjoyment.

I think a better word is "unwilling" more than 'capable'.


I feel the same can and should be said for women. I've spent too much time talking to other women about sex and only one of my girlfriends doesn't like fellatio at all. The others enjoy it.

That's heartening to know. I suspect you associate with women who are as enlightend as you are.

I feel the title of the thread is another useless sweeping generalization.

Yes. I've already said as much.

It's obvious a gay man is going to think this video is hot (personally, I found it pleasing to watch) but i'd like to have more concrete proof that women can't do the same for a man besides "it's my experience".

Well then let's get the "woman off the street" and see what she has to say. Since, as I've previously noted, this site harbors many gay man as members you're going to get (sometimes) a biased stance with regard to the preponderance of male homosexuals frequenting the board (let alone the more sexually liberated of our heterosexual female posters).

It's also obvious that a gay man would probably not find that same video as hot if a woman were performing the act on the recipient, so of course the OP would think that a woman couldn't do this. If you're not attracted to women, getting head from one won't do the trick for you. A woman might be able to navigate around my downtown area more easily, but I won't enjoy it because i'm straight.

Yes I'm aware that you're straight.

And no. I wouldn't enjoy that video as much if a woman were performing it. Now we're in the area of tastes and sexual preferences. The porn world is rife with women (often two) performing oral sex on one man. It makes me go soft. But there's no lack of it for the hetero male audience. I say the presentation of this video for homosexual male indulgence and gratification is not something that should engender the response of frustrated heterosexual men who make moronic comments at having to "endure" the sight of a male giving another male head or of suggesting the fellow would enjoy it more if it were a female on her knees instead. That's all I'm really getting at here MB.

Do I think a generalization can be made? Yes. And here it is:

Homosexual men are more invested in cock. It's a big part of the interest. So therefore it stands to reason (and since we possess the same organ ourselves) that often we gay boys are going to be more immediately drawn to giving good head. We know where to concentrate our attention you see? It's more instinctive for us. Remember, to us cock is a known much in that same way you suggest pussy is to lesbians.
 

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Stronzo said:
Many str8 men I've enjoyed have commented that "gay men give better head than women". During my heterosexual misadventures I noticed that women generally didn't "crave cock" like we gay dudes do (generally I'm saying here not entirely).

It's a HUGE myth that 'gay men give better head than women'.

Gay men give better head than women, when the recipient is a gay man.

Women give better head than gay men, when the recipient is a straight man.

Seems like common sense to me. "Better head" is entirely subjective and not worth arguing about.


There. That's my responsiblity in this thing.

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Stronzo said:
I think a better word is "unwilling" more than 'capable'.

Uhm. That sounds like a pretty bigoted statement.

And no. I wouldn't enjoy that video as much if a woman were performing it.

...or of suggesting the fellow would enjoy it more if it were a female on her knees instead. That's all I'm really getting at here MB.

Double standard, anyone?

Do I think a generalization can be made? Yes. And here it is:

Homosexual men are more invested in cock. It's a big part of the interest. So therefore it stands to reason (and since we possess the same organ ourselves) that often we gay boys are going to be more immediately drawn to giving good head. We know where to concentrate our attention you see? It's more instinctive for us. Remember, to us cock is a known much in that same way you suggest pussy is to lesbians.

Nice stereotyping there.
 

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rob_just_rob said:
Seems like common sense to me. "Better head" is entirely subjective and not worth arguing about.

Ah good then I assume you're done?:rolleyes:

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Double standard, anyone?
No wait. I'll bite (figuratively)...

Where's the double standard oh johnny-cum-lately?

rjr said:
Nice stereotyping there...

ummmmmmmm where? :33:

You've just called me a "bigot", a "stereotyper", and guilty of "double standard" none of which applies in your stated reference. I guess it's only fair I call you as I see you:

troll
 

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rob_just_rob said:
Gay men give better head than women, when the recipient is a gay man.

Women give better head than gay men, when the recipient is a straight man.

You haven't perused the sexual continuum very much I see.

Do you, of necessity, only see things in absolutes?

I can assure you personally that your first sentence is emphatically not always the case. I know two straight men personally who only get real oral gratification from gay ones.