100% straight

[dongalong]

Curiously, I fill all my condoms with mercury before use. I find the dementia it causes makes my orgasms more intense.

Sounds good, how much do you use?

 

[thirteenbyseven]

Though I can't recall the movie, it was a comedy that employed an age old time tested method called the "site gag." The viewer sees the back of a tall svelte individual with a tight ass and long flowing blonde locks. Naturally, using powers of deduction the viewer thinks the person is a smoking hot supermodel type babe. Then the person trurns around and reveals himself to be a retro-60's male hippie with long hair and a mustache. Straight guys in the audience reflexively respond with groans as if a bucket of ice water was suddenly dumped in their laps.

That's kinda like I felt.

 

[D_Humper E Bogart]

Must have been funny though.

Dunno why all of a sudden straight men have to justify their straightness, damn, talk about role-reversal!

 

[pichulon]

What we are talking about is, at least for some, homophobia. For some, saying "I am 100% straight" also means "don't call me fag", "I am not the least bit sissy" etc. (not for all....please don't misinterpret....but for some).

Homoeroticism abounds in the all-male world IMHO. I see all the straight hockey players at my gym showering after practice. I see how they interact, show off, stay needlessly naked and over-soap their dicks. I know they go home and fuck their girlfriends. This is all fine with me. I would never say they were gay. I would just like them to acknowledge this is part of sexuality, and it is not so perverted, hateful or scarey.

Mystromio, I can infer from your post, that you seem to sugest that all straight men harbor homosexual feelings. In your book, there are no straight men, but gay, bisexual and closet gay.
That is a narrow minded view of sexuality.It is as phobic, to say the straight men are not straight , as to say that gay men are perverted men. I think gay men are made like that, gay men were born with the predisposition towards the same sex. So, I do not share the extreme view of homosexuality. I am not homophobic , so, following path , why would you imply that straight men are latent gay or bisexual humans?
I am straight, and I do not share your view about straight men that describe themselves as straight, being homophobic. I do not like men, I like women and women if what makes my instincts run wild. A straight man has to see naked men in a locker room, and the mental image of a penis in a brain is not turn a man "not straight" or not 100% straight. It is the thought that comes with the image and the body reactions that determine that sexual preference, which is innate.

 

[pichulon]

You don't actually believe that horse manure you just posted do you "pichulon"? The world is crystal clear to you isn't it?

Stronzo.
Lets reverse what I think is what you bespeak.
Would I be right if I state that there is no 100% gay men? That all gay men have a spot for women?

A straight man has no inclination towards men, he does not think of men. The fact that there are closet gay men playing straight for society only tells us there are closeted individuals. A straight man, that thinks of men, and desires men, even if not having actually made contact, is a psycological bi man ( if still attracted to women, ) or a pycological gay man ( if not attracted to women at all, and just playing the straight man image game for societal pressures).
If I were to be a straight man, that has escapedes with men , as little as once a year , not at gunpoint, not raped in a cell by prison inmates, but willingly participating in homosexual activity, in that case I could not technically describe myself as straight, even if I were to display a straight man lifestyle to satisfy my family and friends. I could maintain such image, but, i could not lie to myself.
There is nothing like a straight man that sucks or gets penetrated .He is not straight, by definition, by actions, by thoughts, by mindset.

I eco what OCTABOMBER said, seems like a role reversal, straight men have to justify their exclusive preference towards women. Candidly I can say, I do not see the "manure" that you said you could smell around.
remember, all preferences develop from the original condition of straight men, straight female. It is not the other way around , a world in which all humans are hermaphrodites or gay in which straight sexual mindsets developed either as genetic variants or by societal pressures.

 

[Lex]

Stronzo.

The fact that there are closet gay men playing straight for society only tells us there are closeted individuals. ...

What does that mean? Are you implying that gay men who are not feminine are somehow pretending (to not be feminine) and/or closeted?

I repeat:
Masculinity is not the sole province of heterosexual men and gay women and femininity is not the province of heterosexual women and gay men.

I know lots of masculine (butch) gay men and lots of feminine (nelly) straight men. I know feminine lesbians (lipstick lesbians) and butch straight women.

Just because a gay man is butch/masculine does not mean that he is closeted or that he is straight-acting or playing straight. Whatever the hell that means.

 

[B_Stronzo]

Hey bud, I am just leaving quarters, so, I promisse I will reply to you.
got to go.

I await your thoughtful response with baited breath.

Lets reverse what I think is what you bespeak.
Would I be right if I state that there is no 100% gay men? That all gay men have a spot for women?

Yes ther is not to the first. Yes they do to the second.

A straight man has no inclination towards men, he does not think of men.

You're thinking of this is far too literal a sexual sense. Remember when that guy gave you that hand job in 7th grade? Still doesn't make you gay hon.

The fact that there are closet gay men playing straight for society only tells us there are closeted individuals. A straight man, that thinks of men, and desires men, even if not having actually made contact, is a psycological bi man ( if still attracted to women, ) or a pycological gay man ( if not attracted to women at all, and just playing the straight man image game for societal pressures).
If I were to be a straight man, that has escapedes with men , as little as once a year , not at gunpoint, not raped in a cell by prison inmates, but willingly participating in homosexual activity, in that case I could not technically describe myself as straight, even if I were to display a straight man lifestyle to satisfy my family and friends. I could maintain such image, but, i could not lie to myself.

You know I love you sweetpea but that's the most convoluted pile of preposterous analogy to which I've ever born witness.

There is nothing like a straight man that sucks or gets penetrated .He is not straight, by definition, by actions, by thoughts, by mindset.

Yes he is.

I eco [sic] what OCTABOMBER said, seems like a role reversal, straight men have to justify their exclusive preference towards women. Candidly I can say, I do not see the "manure" that you said you could smell around.

I realize pichulon that you abhor anything or anyone who would suggest that your have even an iota of homosexuality in your make up. That's abundantly clear. But I think as the old phraseology goes "methinks thou dost protest...." You know the rest.

remember, all preferences develop from the original condition of straight men, straight female.

I 'remember' nothing of the sort. You're JOKING!! Aren't you?

It is not the other way around , a world in which all humans are hermaphrodites or gay in which straight sexual mindsets developed either as genetic variants or by societal pressures.

I promise I'll never challenge you again in any real way. I understand you now much better and the old adage "blood from a stone" comes immediately to mind.:redface:

Also, I apologize for fucking with your very "Pichulon-workable" notion of sexuality. I don't want to kick over your house of cards so I'll close the window lest a slight breeze knocks it over entirely

 

[fortiesfun]

remember, all preferences develop from the original condition of straight men, straight female. It is not the other way around , a world in which all humans are hermaphrodites or gay in which straight sexual mindsets developed either as genetic variants or by societal pressures.

Well, see, there is the problem. There is not one bit of evidence for that position. If anything, research seems to point toward a general bisexuality that sometimes (but much more rarely than one would think) becomes exclusively focused on one gender or the other. Most people, behaviorally at least, retain a degree of bisexuality throughout their lives.

The belief that heterosexuality is "the original condition" of everyone's sexuality is a big problem. You can clearly see that it irritates you when the reverse assumption is made (as it rightly should) but fail to see why your own unsupported, and frankly unsupportable, assumption might also be an irritation to those who don't share your particular sexuality. Scientifically speaking, heterosexuality needs as much explanation as any other orientation. We have no idea what causes any of them, but certainly have no evidence that one is the default and all others are caused by "genetic variants or societal pressures." Even if it should turn out that there is a "default" sexuality, heterosexuality doesn't look like a good candidate. Sorry.

 

[B_Stronzo]

I'm starting to think that maybe I should be gay so I can get more women. Right now I'm straight and most of the attention I get is from guys. What is it with people always going after what they think they can't have?

You, my friend, have just had what's called an epiphany.

The clouds have parted and the silver streaks of a knowing sun are streaming through. Enjoy your walk on the "wild side". :biggrin1:

 

[DaveyR]

Even if the study were 100% on the money, it still proves nothing about sexual orientation. Increased blood flow to the genitals while watching gay porn does not make you gay. Obviously. I mean, sometimes I get an erection playing Magic Online. Or driving my car. Or making a sandwich. There might be some correlation, maybe the strange and unfamiliar gay porn increased a more heightened state of awareness in the straight participants in the study because they had never watched gay porn before, as opposed to the gay guys in the study, who, for them, this was probably old hat. Or it could have led the straight men to think of other kinds of sex. Doesn't matter, it proves next to nothing.

Curiously, I fill all my condoms with mercury before use. I find the dementia it causes makes my orgasms more intense.

You need to be careful in case it makes you forget that you are straight!!

Seriously though I agree with your point. Most porn tends to give me a hard on including straight but I still count myself as 100% gay.

 

[BIGBULL29]

Even if the study were 100% on the money, it still proves nothing about sexual orientation.

It might not prove anything, but it strongly suggests that naked women aren't the only creatures which can get blood flowing to straight men's penises. :wink:

I'm not even in denial that straight men exist (never was and never will be), but a naked dude can give them a hard-on. How is that, considering that these men are straight? Well, although a real straight man naturally and generally prefers sexual relationships with women, he will deny that a naked men/dick can make blood flow downstairs because of the "straight label" -- it is that simple.

 

[dongalong]

I like this website because it encourages tolerance. Gays, heteros and women share their views on subjects and learn more about each other. I hadn't had much contact with gays before I joined this site and now I understand better how they think and I have grown to like them.

This thread, however, seems to be based on intolerance - you can't tolerate that hetero men prefer sexual relations only with the opposite sex so you are trying to prove with a flawed test that we must be a little bit gay.

Judging by the posts, your suggestion obviously angers most hetero men and won't do anything to curb homophobia.

I think that you (those guys that believe such bullshit tests) should learn some tolerance and accept our 100% hetero rating.

 

[xoxe]

i´d like make sandwich with you, but hidden all the mercury.

 

[BIGBULL29]

Call yourselves 100% heterosexual. But, I will never believe it. I don't believe that 100% homosexual is a valid rating either. Why? Because human sexuality -- as with all emotions -- cannot be expressed in black and white terms. To say that you are 100% straight would mean that a gay thought never entered into your mind -- never. To say that you are a 100% gay is to say that a straight thought never entered in your mind -- never. Who are you all trying to fool? yourselves?
society? You aren't fooling me.

 

[Mem]

Obviously self professed "100%" straight men feel threatened, as if to think they lose their masculinity if they are not self-defined as 100% straight.

Even if you are 99% or 98% straight it does not make you gay nor actively Bi. It just means your desire to be with women is 99 (or 98) times stronger than to be with a guy.

I also believe since we all come from both male and female that we are all somewhere in between sexually.

All gay people do not want all str8 people to be gay? Do all str8s want all gay people to be str8?

I guess the 100% str8ers refuse to entertain the thought that they can be anything but 100% str8.

Daddy must have told them that boys don't cry.

 

[Zack]

Interesting thread - I've never had sex with a woman - only masculine guys. My buddies call me a Mans Man who likes guys. I think everyone could eventually have sex with someone opposite of who they are attracted to. Not that it's a choice since I don't think anyone decides to be straight or gay but we all have a need for someone to play with!

OK - there's my first post...

 

[mtguy1972]

I didn't read every single post carefully, so forgive me if I'm being repetitive.

I think the gist of the study is regarding homophobia in heterosexual men, not judging the degree of their sexual orientation. The results show that homophobic men tend to show more arousal than non-homophobic men, which correlates with other research suggesting that homophobia stems from internal prohibitions against their own homosexual feelings/urges.

I disagree with posters who attempt to assign sexual orientation to the subjects in the study, because that's not what the study was measuring. I also disagree with posters who dismiss the findings as meaningless. This was scientific study published in a legitimate scholarly journal. (Not that this means it's infallible, but I don't think it can be written off as "meaningless" without some sort of intelligent discourse).

 

[Zack]

Basically, if someone is secure with their own sexuality, they're not homophobic, if someone is

, and the authors explain this as latent, suppressed or repressed homosexual urges as the reason why. OtheThe authors explain

I agree - I am definately NOT heterophobic - most all of my friends are heterosexual and many of them know about me. I like gals and guys. The ones who have a prob with it are usually the ones who are MOST insecure with themselves.

 

[emu]

i'm with snakebyte and alex on this.

don't try to box people into YOUR idea of what sexuality should be.
also don't think there is a such a thing as 100% anything unless by choice of LIFESTYLE.

you watch "straight" porn...guess what the turn on more often than not is watching some dude's fat dick penetrate some chick's tight pussy, otherwise "straight" porn would be of a single chick masturbating or watching 2 lesbian chicks. or for a woman, "straight" porn would be of watching a single dude jack off or watching two gay dudes.

point being, sex is sex, who gives a shit if your likes or dislikes are gay, straight or bi. those labels are for YOU as a personal CHOICE as a result of your LIFESTYLE, not what actually turns you on....and just because you get turned on by something does not mean you have to act.

if i get excited and thrilled at the site of watching an action movie where someone is killing people with a gun, does that give me the the OK to go out there and do the same....no. nor would it even interest me to want to shoot someone with a gun unless out of self defense.

just a thought.

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[emu]

I agree - I am definately NOT heterophobic - most all of my friends are heterosexual and many of them know about me. I like gals and guys. The ones who have a prob with it are usually the ones who are MOST insecure with themselves.

here is what i have learned from personal experience and observation.

people who are "homophobic" are basically gay.
they are in the closet and struggling with their sexuality. that is why they get so angry towards "gay" people. otherwise if you were truly "straight" you wouldn't care. what person wouldn't want to be flattered by being hit on by someone gay straight or bi..?

thought to homophobic people: get over yourself and get a clue

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