100% straight

[B_Stronzo]

I like this website because it encourages tolerance. Gays, heteros and women share their views on subjects and learn more about each other. I hadn't had much contact with gays before I joined this site and now I understand better how they think and I have grown to like them.

Yes I've grown to like this website too since it encourages tolerance. I hadn't much contact with straights before I joined this site and now I understand better how they think and I've grown to like them too.

This thread, however, seems to be based on intolerance - you can't tolerate that hetero men prefer sexual relations only with the opposite sex so you are trying to prove with a flawed test that we must be a little bit gay.

I'm still amazed at the paraonoia inherent in this part of your post. Why does the mere suggestion that something (even to the slightest degree) which could suggest no one is 100% heterosexual seem to put you off and upset you so? Perhaps you haven't learned all the much after all from this site. :33: And what's so 'flawed' about the test? That you don't like its results?

Judging by the posts, your suggestion obviously angers most hetero men and won't do anything to curb homophobia.

It's that very 'anger' you mention which makes the thread so interesting. That is what truly needs to be addressed and exposed. Even if what you suggest is true is true... why would it cause anger?

I think that you (those guys that believe such bullshit tests) should learn some tolerance and accept our 100% hetero rating.

Why? If it's bullshit. Hey I'm a born homo and I (and many like me ) will easily admit that there's the smallest chance we'll be sexually interested in the opposite sex. Why is that so curiously offensive to you in the opposite scenario?

Bottom line? If you didn't have the slightest bit of homosexuality in you fellas you'd not be able to stomach making love to that cock of yours as willingly and often as you do. Think about it.

Relax. It's all good.

Obviously self professed "100%" straight men feel threatened, as if to think they lose their masculinity if they are not self-defined as 100% straight.

That nails it.

 

[B_Stronzo]

well 100% straight in my case means I only will have sex with women. It does not mean that I can't think a man is sexy.

Then without question according to "The Pichulon Handbook of Sexual Definitions" you, of necessity, must not be a straight man.

 

[B_Stronzo]

There are many threads like this where gay men try to convince heteros that they are really a bit gay. You just want more choice don't you?

No. We want you guys to be honest. There's plenty of cock to go around as is. Just stop hiding behind an imposed notion of heterosexuality to reinforce societal standards of an impossible sexual designation. That may wash with 99 percent of society but it won't wash here with many of the posters who know the nuances to the "straight" male in all their guises.

I like to check out other guy's dicks (on the internet and in porn) - not because I'd like to have a bit of bum-fun with them but rather, I imagine what it must be like fucking a woman with such a huge cock. Big cock hetero porn is my favourite, I get turned on by the women's reactions. This could be a reason for the increased blood flow in some participants. Of course others probably just want to screw the guy in the photo.

Boy if you wanted to continue with your preposterous premise you never ... repeat never should have posted the above. You're trying every way but Sunday to rationalize looking at cock and enjoying it.

Come out! Come out! Wherever you are!!!:tongue:

And no ... you'd actually like to touch that big cock you're enjoying watching so much. Dude? You're part gay.:biggrin1:

 

[pichulon]

You need to be careful in case it makes you forget that you are straight!!

Seriously though I agree with your point. Most porn tends to give me a hard on including straight but I still count myself as 100% gay.

Well, according to Stronzo, there is no such thing as 100% gay.

As expressed in his reply:


Quote:
Originally Posted by pichulon
Lets reverse what I think is what you bespeak.
Would I be right if I state that there is no 100% gay men? That all gay men have a spot for women?

Yes ther is not to the first. Yes they do to the second.

_____________________________________________________________

 

[pichulon]

It might not prove anything, but it strongly suggests that naked women aren't the only creatures which can get blood flowing to straight men's penises. :wink:

I'm not even in denial that straight men exist (never was and never will be), but a naked dude can give them a hard-on. How is that, considering that these men are straight? Well, although a real straight man naturally and generally prefers sexual relationships with women, he will deny that a naked men/dick can make blood flow downstairs because of the "straight label" -- it is that simple.

My explanation would be the following.
If we are talking about a straight man , not a closeted individual, or a bisexual man , in that case, we know the concept of association.
The vision of a naked man can elicit the noton of sex, and, the notion of sex, brings the feelings of arrousal because this man is thinking about sex with a woman. The naked body is nothing but an instigator to the mechanism of association.

Have you ever read the old Pavlov experiments?? A dog is put in a place to listen to a bell ring. At the ring , he is given food.
later on, the bell rings, there is no food this time around, but the dog still salivates, in association to the meal that he expects to receive.

We watch porn. In my case, straight porn movies....
( and, must confess, girl on girl too )....so, if a man is used to watch porn, the naked man brings in all that expectation of sex, of the female that is going to participate.
It is not the naked man, that is not even really considered, it is the subconcious that is expecting a woman to appear as next act.

In that experiment, if the naked man in question, was followed by another man entering the scene, and kissing the first man, I bet the participants would had rioted and probaly that theatre would had been brought down to rubble....:biggrin1:

 

[pichulon]

I like this website because it encourages tolerance. Gays, heteros and women share their views on subjects and learn more about each other. I hadn't had much contact with gays before I joined this site and now I understand better how they think and I have grown to like them.

This thread, however, seems to be based on intolerance - you can't tolerate that hetero men prefer sexual relations only with the opposite sex so you are trying to prove with a flawed test that we must be a little bit gay.

Judging by the posts, your suggestion obviously angers most hetero men and won't do anything to curb homophobia.

I think that you (those guys that believe such bullshit tests) should learn some tolerance and accept our 100% hetero rating.

I want to think that this thread is not the product of intolerance, but the product of a guy that wants to learn.
This is an opportunity to learn something new, there are 100% straight men.
Gay men have to accept that there are 100% heterosexual men alive and walking.

Why is it so hard to accept?

 

[BIGBULL29]

My explanation would be the following.
If we are talking about a straight man , not a closeted individual, or a bisexual man , in that case, we know the concept of association.
The vision of a naked man can elicit the noton of sex, and, the notion of sex, brings the feelings of arrousal because this man is thinking about sex with a woman. The naked body is nothing but an instigator to the mechanism of association.

In other words, if a real straight man gets a boner over a naked man/big dick, it's only because he's associating that naked man/big dick with sex with a woman. Thus, it could never be the case that a dick/naked male body could ever trigger an erection in a purely straight male its own right, without the influence of heterosexual sex association?

A purely heterosexual man can never have a genuine gay thought -- never. If he does, it's not a genuine one; it's only because he is associating naked men/dicks with heterosexual sex.

I gotcha, pichulon.
Gay thoughts through heterosexual sex association at:

 

[B_Stronzo]

My explanation would be the following.
If we are talking about a straight man , not a closeted individual, or a bisexual man , in that case, we know the concept of association.
The vision of a naked man can elicit the noton of sex, and, the notion of sex, brings the feelings of arrousal because this man is thinking about sex with a woman. The naked body is nothing but an instigator to the mechanism of association.

Have you ever read the old Pavlov experiments?? A dog is put in a place to listen to a bell ring. At the ring , he is given food.
later on, the bell rings, there is no food this time around, but the dog still salivates, in association to the meal that he expects to receive.

We watch porn. In my case, straight porn movies....
( and, must confess, girl on girl too )....so, if a man is used to watch porn, the naked man brings in all that expectation of sex, of the female that is going to participate.
It is not the naked man, that is not even really considered, it is the subconcious that is expecting a woman to appear as next act.

In that experiment, if the naked man in question, was followed by another man entering the scene, and kissing the first man, I bet the participants would had rioted and probaly that theatre would had been brought down to rubble....:biggrin1:

Pichulon?

Think of sex as a continuum. You can explain 'til the cows come home but you want to simplify something that's amazingly complex. The more you go on the more suspect you become.

And to answer your pm to me? There's not a one of us who wants to "convert" you guys. Get a grip. It was the height of offensive to suggest this:

Understanding and respecting, is different from converting, and I know you know that, just wanted to say it.

I was going to leave it alone but dude..... that's beyond absurd.

 

[scottsimms]

Tennessee Williams said it best: The human heart does not walk a straight line.

More importantly, however, there is a vast difference between homosexuality and homoeroticism. The latter accounts for the kind of competitive shower behavior attributed to the hockey players in the above post, it is the basis of masculine friendships, etc. and it's a far cry from the implicit desire of same-sex relations and the complex emotional terrain of such relationships.

 

[deleted23526]

I have been reading this post, and in my opinion, you love who you love regardless of who are what they are be it man, woman, goat, or onion. Love has No reservations. I have seen lesbians fall for me as well as have i see "Straight men" fall for men. It is human nature to love without exception. Society teches to discriminate and use your bias. Sexuality should not be dictated.

 

[BIGBULL29]

I read you, pichulon. The woman is always the driving force behind those erections of purely heterosexual men. Nothing male could ever make blood flow south.

By the way, if a man gets turned on by his own dick (making love to himself without thoughts of sex with a woman), would that be grounds to qualify him as an impure heterosexual man?

 

[pichulon]

I read you, pichulon. The woman is always the driving force behind those erections of purely heterosexual men. Nothing male could ever make blood flow south.

By the way, if a man gets turned on by his own dick (making love to himself without thoughts of sex with a woman), would that be grounds to qualify him as an impure heterosexual man?

bigbull... What is your point, let me understand it clearly, in order to be able to respond.
You are saying that there is no men in this world that is interested only, and only in women?

A man that turns on with his own dick, or with the dick girl sucking scene in the movie, etc

....it is not about the thought of a penis. It is what your mind does with that raw thought , in order to turn it into a processed thought.
A gay man sees a penis and thinks of sex, and all those things he likes.
A straight man sees a penis, and, will use the raw material ( penis) to alaborate other thoughts that are different than the gay mans' thoughts.
If I see the image of a huge penis, perhaps I would think...
cool to have that penis mysefl...
...or >>>> that big salami would look nice stuffed in the mouth of my sexy neighbor.......
straight men are not thinking about going down on it, or, anal sex with it

gay and straight men have different patterns of thought, at least withing the sexual realm.

Why is it so threatening to gay guys, that a straight man is fully straight, 100 % ??

 

[mystromio]

This thread, however, seems to be based on intolerance - you can't tolerate that hetero men prefer sexual relations only with the opposite sex so you are trying to prove with a flawed test that we must be a little bit gay.

Judging by the posts, your suggestion obviously angers most hetero men and won't do anything to curb homophobia.

I think that you (those guys that believe such bullshit tests) should learn some tolerance and accept our 100% hetero rating.

My intention really wasn't to be intolerant. The only thing I am intolerant of is intolerance!

For most gay men, I think my post will resonate. We have grown up in a world where we have been considered abnormal, or even hateful, and many have suffered a lot of intolerance and abuse....if not physical violence, at the hands of "100% straight" men.

When I came out to my parents at 23, the first thing my father said was "it is not my genes"! Number 1 concern: someone might think he had a titch of gay!

So you will forgive me if you felt the target of intolerance. I don't know you, and you seem to be accepting and open. Maybe every "100%" straight man on this board is...although I doubt it. And feeling the brunt of intolerance, (albeit unintentional) you have just had a taste, diluted by a million, of what the average gay man experiences.

I posted because I just thought it odd/funny so many men on this board are "100% straight", and I was curious to know their thoughts about what the penile plethysmograph has to say about it.

 

[BIGBULL29]

A gay man sees a penis and thinks of sex, and all those things he likes.
A straight man sees a penis, and, will use the raw material ( penis) to alaborate other thoughts that are different than the gay mans' thoughts.
If I see the image of a huge penis, perhaps I would think...
cool to have that penis mysefl...
...or >>>> that big salami would look nice stuffed in the mouth of my sexy neighbor.......
straight men are not thinking about going down on it, or, anal sex with it

A man can get turned on watching a big cock fucking a broad without wanting to service it in real life or in fantasy. The woman in the picture does not heterosexualize it. He enjoys the big cock it is own right, attesting to the fact that he is attracted to maleness. What is turning you and many straight men on is not the just the look of the big dick penetrating one of the many orifices of the female body, but the raw masculinity represented by the big dick. The fact that you are male naturally makes you attracted to masculinity, particularly a more ideal form of it. You may not desire the big dick in the same way a gay man desires it, but you desire it, nonetheless. The look of it is appealing. Period. Liking to watch those big fuckers in straight porn is alone testament to the fact that you at least experience sexual attraction to maleness/masculinity (I won't use the word "men" as that may throw you off your rocker). Whether it's big dick jealousy, big dick admiration, or enjoying watching big dicks penetrating women, homoeroticism is in play. I can't change that fact.

By the way, pichulon, who ever said there are not straight men? No, I don't believe any man is purely heterosexual. Sorry. You will never convince me otherwise. Why? The very nature of being male makes all men naturally attracted to maleness. For example, looking at big dicks is a turn on for many straight men, even though many of them will never desire to service a big dick in real life, or possibly in their fantasies (I am less sure about the latter). Mere watching them will suffice.

 

[emu]

it's simple psychology. why would someone be afraid of a gay person?

answer: because they are afraid of being hit on by a gay dude, that being hit on by a gay dude may "awaken" some dormant "gay" aspect of themselves they don't want to face or deal with or weren't aware of...hence why people who are homophobic are angry and violent towards gay people. I have seen this myself with people i know, i have been a part of it and have had it done to me....and I wouldn't consider myself entirely straight or gay or even bi.

unless the straight guy has been beaten and raped by a gay dude, there is no validity or rationale to "homophobia" as a true phobia, it is unfounded fear of themselves. why would you be insulted to be hit on by a gay guy? most straight guys i know including myself are flattered, not offended or afraid. "homophobia" as we know it to be defined by society makes no logical sense unless you are a closet case who is struggling with your sexuality. it's called being honest with yourself.

same can be said about why a gay person would be afraid of a straight person. at least a gay person may have a valid reason for being afraid of a straight dude if that gay person has been bashed before. but you never hear the term heterophobia. why? because a gay dude is not afraid that being around a straight guy is going to make them straight...and even if it did, why would the gay dude be afraid of that, at least the gay guy would be MORE ACCEPTED by the straight guys.

and that is ultimately the driving force behind the homophobia, as a straight guy, if you did reconcile your gay feelings and come to terms with them, you would not be as accepted by the straight guys, you will still have your friends and some may even abandon you, but you would not be as accepted as "one of the 'STRAIGHT' (normal) guys".

try as we might to be "accepting" and tolerant, the core of this issue still remains, no matter how many different blankets we throw on it.

i tend to define sexuality in terms of who or what gives you that "feeling" in your HEART that makes you get hard as a result, who you can fall in love with romantically and thus producing a sexual attraction where everytime you see the person your heart races, you become flushed and you spring wood by just the mere thought of being around or near the person, not being turned on by the sight of a hot chick and getting hard. hell if i defined my sexuality at how many things make me hard, i would be universalsexual. I can spring wood looking at my truck, does that mean i want to have sex with my truck...? what would that make me, autosexual....? ahahahaha

and this is why labels serve no purpose, because if people actually paid any attention to their emotions and had sex with people they actually care about romantically, you would realize sexuality is not as cut and dry as we would like to think. just because you are 100% whatever does not mean you may find that one person at some point in your life that may hold your attention where all else and everyone else just disappears and suddenly it is just you and that special someone and nothing else matters, it all disappears. if you can find that person and want to spend the rest of your life with that person, that is your sexuality.
(hopefully the person is not a child or a an animal...ahahaa)

phobia is bascially a term used to describe something that causes heightened anxiety and irrational fear. take arachniphobia...fear of spiders....
the fear is the way the damn things crawl, they are creepy and may bite you
being that some spiders are poisnous and deadly, the fear is valid and rationale, although the condition of heightened anxiety and irrational fear is not valid, because a tiny little typical non poisonous house spider is a simple matter of whiping up with a napkin and tossing down the trash or toilet. people who would have a phobia would be screaming and running in fear from the sight of it...why? because they have had a prior bad experience with truly deadly spiders at some point in their lives.

so unless as a straight man having a bad experience with a gay dude (beaten, raped) homophobia has no validity other than to showcase your own closetted struggles with sexuality. same is true for a gay person who is heterophobic...unless you have been through a gay bashing, the fear is irrational and does nothing but validate your desire to be straight to take on the role of a straight man and have sex with women.

simple psychology.

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[B_NineInchCock_160IQ]

it's simple psychology. why would someone be afraid of a gay person?
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how do you explain the many gay men who say they find the thought of being with a woman revolting? Are they afraid that they might be straight? Were they beaten/raped by a woman earlier in their life?

Most straight men find homosexual activity to be disgusting. There is also a social stigma attached to homosexuality that they don't want to be associated with. This is a far simpler and more logical explanation than what you managed to come up with.

Of course "homophobia" is and always has been something of a misnomer when read literally. Most straight men, even extremely bigoted straight men who hate gay men, are not actually "afraid" of gays. Your post sounds like your reading of the term is a little too literal-minded.

I'm sure there are some closeted homosexuals out there who exhibit homophobic behavior. and I do believe that a straight man perfectly comfortable with his own heterosexuality has no cause to react in a violent or extravagantly homophobic manner when propositioned by a gay man or when confronted with homosexual media/literature/behavior/etc. However, I find the majority of your post to be quite absurd. There was nothing at all "simple" about the logical convolutions you went through and the huge assumptions you liberally took in order to reach your conclusions.

 

[B_NineInchCock_160IQ]

A man can get turned on watching a big cock fucking a broad without wanting to service it in real life or in fantasy. The woman in the picture does not heterosexualize it. He enjoys the big cock it is own right, attesting to the fact that he is attracted to maleness. .

Also a little ridiculous. The cock in isolation is not attractive. Seeing some small girl get stuffed by a huge guy though... that can be a turn on.

If anything, this thread has proven that for both straight men and gay men, it can be quite difficult to imagine the way someone with a sexual orientation different from your own might feel.

 

[dcwrestlefan]

it's simple psychology. why would someone be afraid of a gay person?

guess i have been on this board too long. this topic has been "point/counterpointed" to death. jane, you ignorant slut. jack, you poor misguided shriveled prune.

being afraid of members of the same sex is not the same as not being attracted to them. theres lots of straight men that are ok with gay guys, but don't want to go flippy flop with them. thats excellent. doesnt make them homophobic or afraid or confused or curious etc. an advantage of living in or near a big city - many of them exist.

if you are a straight man or woman "afraid" or hate gay people, then yes, you have a problem.

i like and respect my straight friends, the ones in my life and the ones on here, as long as they like and respect me.

women seem to have less weirdness with this, but thats just a personal take on the situation.

there are tons of 100 pct straight people. be ok with that.

signed, a homo.

 

[Love-it]

Call yourselves 100% heterosexual. But, I will never believe it. I don't believe that 100% homosexual is a valid rating either. Why? Because human sexuality -- as with all emotions -- cannot be expressed in black and white terms. To say that you are 100% straight would mean that a gay thought never entered into your mind -- never. To say that you are a 100% gay is to say that a straight thought never entered in your mind -- never. Who are you all trying to fool? yourselves? society? You aren't fooling me. [/quote]

Why do you care?

 

[JoeNeckbone]

Were they shown any images of guys fucking sheep?
Or priests fucking alter boys?
Or women fucking men with strap ons?
Guys sucking themselves off?
Just curious...