$ 12,136,209,971,382 US National Debt WTF

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  1. B_Marius567

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    Well, it won't be cheap sending another 30,000 troops overseas to conquer Afghanistan (good thing the Soviets beat and shot them into submission before we got there:rolleyes:).


    Then of course each dead soldier=death benefits for any spouse, and benefits for any children. But, it's okay, because he is keeping his promise-troops are leaving Iraq. Problem being he is sending even more than that over to a place where nobody can succeed.
     
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    Couldn't you just sell Alaska?
     
  4. Northland

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    But then what would happen to that Palin creature?

    Oh- she'd no longer be a U.S. resident, and her political future would end.



    Good idea, Vince.
     
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    I tried to edit the thread title to reflect the changing figure but I couldn't keep up sorry :redface:
     
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    There's obviously no way it's ever, ever getting paid back. The worry is hyper-inflation, but they're going to have to figure out a way to nullify the debt.

    The thing that baffles me is that they still spend like crazy with no money. They know something we don't.
     
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    They know that the issue is not just "spending" in the generic sense... It's what you spend your money on. The deficit will not disappear if we don't circulate a single penny and hoard our money like greedy CEOs. Nobody ever makes money without spending any in the process.

    You want to win the war in Afghanistan? That costs money. You want health care reform? That costs money too. Want things to stay at the status quo and get worse? Keep complaining about spending.

    Seriously, I hope nobody here is suggesting that the government sit around and do absolutely nothing. These empty cries regarding "less spending" get really monotonous after a while.
     
  8. vince

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    I seems to me that's what people and corporations do when they are in hock to and need to raise some cash. Sell some assets. Napoleon sold Thomas Jefferson a huge wack of land. The UsA has had Alaska for about 125 years. Hasn't done much with it. Nobody ever goes there. I betcha the Chinese would forgive most of the debt for say, Prudhoe Bay?

    And Palin could run for President of Red China.


    It'll be interesting to see if fiscal "conservatives" want to continue to borrow for the causes they support or will go along with the Dems on this one..

    Questions arise over how to pay for Afghanistan war - KansasCity.com
     
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    Healthcare is one thing, the war in Afghanistan is another entirely. That's never going to be won, period.
     
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    the ticker keeps ticking on the $9T debt ole Gergie left us with.

    We will probably need to see some sort of tax increase at some point to help pull us out of this fiasco. But not investing in infrastructure and manufacturing to stimulate the economy and generate revenues is idiotic.

    The opposition keep screaming "no more spending" but nary a word was ever said while Bushie Junior was pouring trillions into an illegal war where billions went to enrich a few well connected contractors like Halliburton and Bechtel.

    OUT of AFGHANISTAN! we being there has nothing to do with 9/11 and everything to do with securing the natural gas pipeline for profiteering American energy corporations.
     
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    On the day President George W. Bush took office, the national debt stood at $5.727 trillion. As of November, 2008, the number from the Treasury Department showed the national debt standing at more than $9.849 trillion. That’s a 71.9 percent increase on Mr. Bush’s watch.

    So, the national debt was almost $10 trillion when Bush Jr. exited. And Obama was saddled with a failing economy and was forced to pump cash into the system (via a stimulus package).
     
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    But figuring out all of that complicated math and placing it alongside a historical timeline to show trends, spending habits, cause & effect, or to create any kind of informed relationship between the deficit and the government's overall influence requires too much work. Can't we just blame it all on Obama?

    How dare you suggest anyone here to think!? The nerve of some people!!! :biggrin:
     
  13. Northland

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    No, no, no! Obama has sworn he will win Afghanistan-at the cost of another 30,000+ troops (expect him to ask for more within a year). Another 10,000 dead soldiers, is a small price to him.
     
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    Sadly it's another thing he's gone back on his word with.
     
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    What's that?
     
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    I have always wondered what happened to all the money the goverment threw ,with both hands, at New Orleans after Katrina. Never seemed to be any accounting for it, some group must have gotten very rich off this. Rant for the day.
     
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    Nevermind.
     
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    you'd have to ask Brownie - remember ole Georgie said he was doing ".. a heck of a job!"
     
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    That's a tasteless and indefensible statement

    remember General McChrystal is practically demanding 40,000 troops to finish the job he has been unable to do for 6 years. The same man who tried to cover up the killing of Pat Tillman

    If this all proves anything it's that in many such matters of world operations our president is a mere figurehead to the powers of the military-industrial complex
     
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