Yeah, I honestly agree with Kotchanski. I was wrong to generalize and I did mention my regret about that already to a friend, though my experience is fairly extensive. Plus, I'm quite sure at least two or three perfectly decent grown up women found me to be a totally arrogant, contrary asshole when I was 20, too. But, it would be unfair not to include that I've inadvertantly met some AMAZING young people out there in the world these days, men and women alike who are doing great things in the arts and sciences. Not all bad at all. In my own years, I was a much happier camper when I learned to invest more time and attention in the "elder" set. But, the thread is admittedly hasty and probably venting some belated disappointment in people going way back to college days. Wasn't trying to stir up trouble, but paranoia does seem to abound. Sorry to trigger it here on the board. The board is basically positive and I try to honor that spirit without being too shallow on pertinent matters. Maybe the thread should have been called, "20 year old poeple.: Or just "immature 'jumped-up shite' from a fellow human being, ... who is young." I additionally take issue with being accused of "dangling" anything in front of anyone, by whoever that was. The women on this board whom I've approached or who have approached me, all know that I am a polite, generally happy, well adjusted person. Definitely sorry to ruffle any young feathers among the brighter happier fellow lpsg'rs who have chimed in. There are certain patterns that go along with age groups, some worth mentioning and understanding or standing down. But, we all damn well know there are many perfectly lovely 20 somethings out there and on here. God bless'm. They are the future. Some of them merit being stood up to, but some are natural leaders already, and when they are headed in healthy directions, they always have my full support.