@ 338 and counting, I was looking at the states that are left. Obama will hit 360 easy, but even 370 is doable. Folks, we got our revolution.
and in the popular vote he is still only at 51.8% to 48.1% surprisingly. Bush beat Kerry in 2004 50.7% to 48.3% not much of a difference.
Revolution? There is only a 4-5% difference in the popular vote. I admit things have changed (Obama carrying VA etc) but having 5% more people thinking your way than the rest of the masses does not a revolution make.
Man, quit trolling every fricking thread. You're starting to irritate me. Do something productive and post some new porn somewhere.
You're overlooking the gains in the senate and house as well. The GOP is now frozen out of American politics. Its ok though, I understand your denial. You probably thought McCain was going to win tonight too. lol
i see...so when you post something erroneous, it should not be discussed, debated or corrected? don't start a thread if you don't want it discussed. either that, or state your facts and your points...as i said, under 52% is not a revolution. you said there was a revolution. that is incorrect.
Yeah, and Gore won the popular vote in 2000. Bush claimed "election capital" in that contest. You've witnessed a revolution tonight - just accept it; the sooner you do, the better off you will be.
it is amusing how you take two independents like wartrac and i to task for disagreeing with your endless pathetic partisanship that is shamefully reminiscent of the idiotic republicans...or can you just not accept that everyone who disagrees with your view is not necessarily a republican? the fact is the republicans are not "frozen out of american politics". the democrats did not reach 60 in the senate, so they cannot break a filibuster. the gains in the house and senate are hardly due to some revolution...it had to do with the complete and utter failure of the republicans during the time, not some bubbling stew of democratic brilliance. once again, when one party screws up completely, like the democrats did in the 70s with Carter and both houses, all the other side has to do is provide a basic alternative... republicans or democrats create this giant pinata, that contains every possible wonderful thing one could imagine...Full employment! guaranteed health care! Tax refunds! Free College! Better Education! and then the disillusioned morons who still buy the shit that both parties shovel, steps, up blind folds themselves, and swings their sticks wildly in the voting booth all trying to desperately hit that perfect political pinata. and people wonder why there is no true "change".
i see...so the fact that Obama has only 1% more of the vote in his victory is something you still can;t handle? don't try and change the facts...so what Bush did this or that in 2000...it does not change the number reported thus far tonight 51.86% that is not a revolution, no matter how you'd like to paint it. in two years, we will be in an even deeper recession, and the 2010 election will roll around, and those idiot republicans will take the democrats to task for it...and likely, considering how important the economy became in the past 2 months, to swing this election, i guarantee you, when we continue to slump through this recession, which we will, no matter what Obama does since it is out of his hands, it will be 2010 election season quicker then you know...the scumbag republicans will be back for you know it...to try and take back the congress from the scumbag democrats. this is no revolution...we are at the most dire point in our nations recent history, based mostly on the economy...and the economy in a severe recession DOES NOT COME BACK quickly...see George Bush 1. this economy will get worse, no matter what Obama and the democrats do starting in two months.Everyone knows it, and if the economy stays bad, no matter what else happens, he will be out after one term, and so will e democrats, and the republicans will march back in to take their turn to continue to screw up.
You're undercounting: going from 48-51 to 54-45 isn't just a 5 or 6 point gain -- it's a shift from -3 to +9, or twelve points. Of course, 12 points is still no revolution. But there's more going on than just numbers: this'll be the first time in 13 years that a Democratic president will have a cooperative Congress to work with. But there's more than that, even: By registering new Democratic voters in red states like Mississippi, Georgia, and North Dakota we're in a stronger position to make gains in state and local races over the next few years. The 2009 and 2010 state elections will determine the composition of the state legislatures that redraw district boundaries after the 2010 census. An energized Democratic base going into these elections can have lasting changes throughout the next decade. Republicans underestimate what's happened tonight at their own peril.
The smart ones see it. They see that the party has been rocked to the core and it will take a generation to earn the trust of America again. However, the progress we'll make during that time will cause them to adapt and compromise on their ideology. America changed tonight, in many ways.
and look at how well that worked out...it went so badly that this country elected newt the evil friggin troll gingrich and then kept the republican congress for a decade. pure magic if i ever saw it. and it worked out so well during the Carter years that it swept in Reagan. you will excuse me if i take a very pessimistic view of the endless cycle of two party political stupidity that is about to play out.
Fuck the numbers. This was a Revolution in more ways than one. http://eldib.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/revolution.jpg
