51% say Obama DOESN'T deserve Reelection

[rbkwp]

51% can say that .. 1/2 way thru his term
(1st Term)
What does that say..
hardly typical of the American,s i have come to know & respect
Polls are useful for the 1st hour after release then they are defunct
enz

 

[carbonfiber]

Impeachment or not. There are two things to consider... One is that the man stepped up to this. He chose to be THAT guy (President). If you stepped up to a fight, isn't' it only your personal choice that is to blame for whatever the outcome is? Point two is that a confirmed birth certificate has NEVER been fully recognized by the American people or fully intersected by the Democratic Majority. That is the violation of Constitutional Law.

 

[maxcok]

I'm waiting with bated breath as well.

Shouldn't be too long. He probly just ran out for a bottle of gin. :wink:

 

[maxcok]

Impeachment or not. There are two things to consider... One is that the man stepped up to this. He chose to be THAT guy (President). If you stepped up to a fight, isn't' it only your personal choice that is to blame for whatever the outcome is? Point two is that a confirmed birth certificate has NEVER been fully recognized by the American people or fully intersected by the Democratic Majority. That is the violation of Constitutional Law.

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"fully intersected by the Democratic Majority"? What the holy fuck does that even mean???

 

[B_OtterJoq]

Impeachment or not. There are two things to consider... One is that the man stepped up to this. He chose to be THAT guy (President). If you stepped up to a fight, isn't' it only your personal choice that is to blame for whatever the outcome is? Point two is that a confirmed birth certificate has NEVER been fully recognized by the American people or fully intersected by the Democratic Majority. That is the violation of Constitutional Law.

Oh, God...A freakin' BIRTHER? Seriously?

How totally five minutes ago.

:smile:

 

[B_talltpaguy]

Point two is that a confirmed birth certificate has NEVER been fully recognized by the American people or fully intersected by the Democratic Majority. That is the violation of Constitutional Law.

Well except for the fact that one has...
FactCheck.org: Born in the U.S.A.

Thanks for reminding us all what a "low information voter" sounds like. :beerchug2:

 

[B_VinylBoy]

This had better not become a birther thread.
I swear... there's levels of partisan ignorance that are clearly unacceptable and this is most certainly one of them.

 

[ColoradoGuy]

You have to register your political addiliation to be allowed to vote in the USA? Very democratic. Voters are a fickle lot and I never belive these polls anyway.

This is an incorrect assumption about registration, Sergeant_Torpedo. We are required to be registered to vote. This is to ensure that we are legitimate voters (old enough to vote, but not an illegal immigrant or -- in some states -- an ex-felon) and also to ensure that we only vote once in any given election. Registration is good.

Declaration of party affiliation is largely an exercise in polling; it helps parties and campaigns understand the "general" voting affiliation of the public. Some states do not even request affiliation information when registering voters. In my state, I am "Unaffiliated" which means I am not attached to any political party. Even if I were registered as a Republican, I could vote for anyone -- even a Democrat -- if I wanted to.

If you'd like to read more about our voting rights, this Wikipedia entry has a fairly good overview:

>> Voting rights in the United States
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More on voter registration in the US and elsewhere can be found here:

>> Voter registration
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I'm also with you... these polls rarely mean anything. They're just something for :Eyecrazy: to post on LPSG if they reflect negatively on our President.

 

[houtx48]

but then 51% of nutcases thought zippy bush was a good president. I'm sorry triny you have to have a black president.

 

[FRE]

Impeachment or not. There are two things to consider... One is that the man stepped up to this. He chose to be THAT guy (President). If you stepped up to a fight, isn't' it only your personal choice that is to blame for whatever the outcome is? Point two is that a confirmed birth certificate has NEVER been fully recognized by the American people or fully intersected by the Democratic Majority. That is the violation of Constitutional Law.

I'm an American and I fully recognized his birth certificate. Don't I count?

 

[D_Tully Tunnelrat]

This is not news, merely an opinion poll. They'll be many more, all with different figures before it matters.

 

[Northland]

I didn't vote for him, nor would I. He's turned out to be a somewhat arrogant prick. Maybe he was before, he just kept it in check back then.


The poll is useless and senseless at this time. It's more than a year before The Robot will even be programmed to make an announcement about running or not running for a second term. In that time, the oil spill will be tended to, the economy will slowly rebound, people will adjust to the Health care packet, a reasonable level (one which a majoriity will like) of immigration reform will be placed in a bill which will pass with votes of approval from both sides of the aisle. It's a long way until November of 2012, we haven't even gotten through the midterm elections yet, so why an inane poll about Presidential bids?

 

[HazelGod]

...so why an inane poll about Presidential bids?

Consider the source. They're called one-trick ponies for a reason.

 

[B_talltpaguy]

This is not news, merely an opinion poll. They'll be many more, all with different figures before it matters.

Polls are useful, just not two and a half years out.

 

[b.c.]

I didn't vote for him, nor would I. He's turned out to be a somewhat arrogant prick. Maybe he was before, he just kept it in check back then.


The poll is useless and senseless at this time. It's more than a year before The Robot will even be programmed to make an announcement about running or not running for a second term. In that time, the oil spill will be tended to, the economy will slowly rebound, people will adjust to the Health care packet, a reasonable level (one which a majoriity will like) of immigration reform will be placed in a bill which will pass with votes of approval from both sides of the aisle. It's a long way until November of 2012, we haven't even gotten through the midterm elections yet, so why an inane poll about Presidential bids?

There goes the "A" word.

"Robot"?? I think not. But if so, then may I ask:

1. Doesn't "robot" trump "dummy"? ...or "asshole" for that matter?

2. If we can sit idly by for eight years while Asshole/Dummy & Co. took us from a balanced budget to massive deficits and failing banks, can't we at least let "Robot" complete his term in office before we start calling him a failure?

OR

3. Are the people responsible for Asshole/Dummy & Co. SO terrified that "Robot" might succeed that they'd just as soon obstruct and block all progress, sending the whole country down the shithole; just to keep "Robot" from doing a better job than Asshole/Dummy & Co.?


Inquiring minds would like 2 know.

 

[maxcok]

There goes the "A" word.

Well, it's better than the "U" word. :wink:

 

[B_talltpaguy]

3. Are the people responsible for Asshole/Dummy & Co. SO terrified that "Robot" might succeed that they'd just as soon obstruct and block all progress, sending the whole country down the shithole; just to keep "Robot" from doing a better job than Asshole/Dummy & Co.?


Inquiring minds would like 2 know.

Republican Congressional votes increasingly support this hypothesis...
http://www.lpsg.org/190138-republicans-want-to-create-as.html

 

[Northland]

I didn't vote for him, nor would I. He's turned out to be a somewhat arrogant prick. Maybe he was before, he just kept it in check back then.


The poll is useless and senseless at this time. It's more than a year before The Robot will even be programmed to make an announcement about running or not running for a second term. In that time, the oil spill will be tended to, the economy will slowly rebound, people will adjust to the Health care packet, a reasonable level (one which a majoriity will like) of immigration reform will be placed in a bill which will pass with votes of approval from both sides of the aisle. It's a long way until November of 2012, we haven't even gotten through the midterm elections yet, so why an inane poll about Presidential bids?

There goes the "A" word.

"Robot"?? I think not. But if so, then may I ask:

1. Doesn't "robot" trump "dummy"? ...or "asshole" for that matter?

2. If we can sit idly by for eight years while Asshole/Dummy & Co. took us from a balanced budget to massive deficits and failing banks, can't we at least let "Robot" complete his term in office before we start calling him a failure?

OR

3. Are the people responsible for Asshole/Dummy & Co. SO terrified that "Robot" might succeed that they'd just as soon obstruct and block all progress, sending the whole country down the shithole; just to keep "Robot" from doing a better job than Asshole/Dummy & Co.?


Inquiring minds would like 2 know.

I find him to be arrogant a great deal of the time, at least his demeanor appears to be that. Perhaps use of 'prick' after arrogant was wrong, oddly that word didn't seem to bother you. Stranger still is how you moan about me calling President Obama arrogant, yet you call George W. Bush 'dummy' and 'asshole'. Oh that's right, the left is to be allowed that freedom.


I don't like him, I certainly don't trust him, and I have no respect for him. That said, I do not want to see him fail or for the Nation to crumble. Perhaps that is why I get so frustrated when he dithers-which he often does, then parades out pompously and with a glare declares how things will be done. His left wing cronies then leap around like hyenas on speed declaring how saintly he is.

Of course the left wing cronies who keep complaining that the right wants him to fail, are still dragging former President Bush (and many times even Reagan and Nixon) in as what is wrong with things now. Why, you just did so yourself above, when speaking of the GWB Presidency. Keep in mind, some of the things which went wrong under GWB, were from structural problems created by his predecessor, Bill Clinton. Clinton had bin Laden in his reach and let him go. Clinton had some of the financial advisors (like Geithner and Summers) who added to the flimsy construction of the economic towers. Many of the failed banks, had the roots of their collapse in Clinton soil.

That does not excuse the places where GWB went wrong- which he often did, just as President Obama and his allies (Pelosi, Reid, etc.) cannot keep shaking their fingers and fists wildly and blaming GWB, GHWB, RWR, RMN and others for what has happened during the Obama presidency. It gets stale watching you and others, still, a year and a half into the Obama presidency, blaming George W. Bush. Many of you are the same ones who felt that GWB was solely responsible for allowing the terror attacks of September 11, 2001 and other matters which happened in his first year. If he was responsible for all the ills of year one, then Obama must be equally held and most definitely he must be accountable for problems which have taken place here in his second year.

Even so, I do not want to see President Obama fail. Neither do I believe that he is done for. It is still early. Health care is moving into daily life, the economy may come around the sharp curve and start to visibly improve, the oil spill will have time to be cleaned, an immigration reform act bill can be cobbled together which both sides of the two Houses can agree on and pass and President Obama can feel good about signing and the Nation (its citizens) can embrace. He's far from done for, which is why, I had made clear earlier, that the current polls are useless, senseless, inane.

 

[Trinity]

The poll is useless and senseless at this time. It's more than a year before The Robot will even be programmed to make an announcement about running or not running for a second term. In that time, the oil spill will be tended to, the economy will slowly rebound, people will adjust to the Health care packet, a reasonable level (one which a majoriity will like) of immigration reform will be placed in a bill which will pass with votes of approval from both sides of the aisle. It's a long way until November of 2012, we haven't even gotten through the midterm elections yet, so why an inane poll about Presidential bids?

The poll is far from useless. It's true it's too far out from the Presidential election to be predictive of whether Obama will be reelected...in the time from now and until then, anything could happen. However, currently the issues you mention are not positively reviewed by a majority of Americans. The oil spill and issues associated with the clean up, the causes of the disaster including regulatory corruption, and the drilling moratorium could continue to have a negative impact on Obama's job approval. Obama's Health Care reform remains widely unpopular and as people begin to see that costs are not reduced and companies begin to react to the new law in ways that have unintended effects - there may be backlash. The immigration issue has Obama on the wrong side of the issue according to a majority of the American people. Immigration reform won't go easily through based on the Sen. Kyl incident, talk of an Executive Order bypassing congress and many states following in the footsteps of Arizona. Add in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the national debt and the threat of a double dip recession (Obama sent a letter to the G-20 to keep spending)...and your outlook isn't really supported by current information.

The poll isn't determinative of whether Obama will win in 2012...it asks the people who elected him: Does He Deserve To Be Reelected As Of Now?
And they answered that question: No
That is not a useless poll. That is very telling. Couple this poll with the polls on the direction the country is headed and a majority of people are dissatisfied with what Obama and the Dems have done thus far. That dissatisfaction could affect the November elections and ultimately 2012 if things don't go as you optimistically envision.

Consider the source. They're called one-trick ponies for a reason.

Consider the source...hmm...Gallup? Oh, you no...you were referring to Registered voters in America

 

[B_VinylBoy]

^^ Don't put words in people's mouths. That's not what HG meant.