51% say Obama DOESN'T deserve Reelection

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^ Yes, at least people from both sides came together to work out something. BTW, here is a local story of the further ramifications of the Senate's failure to act:
Flood insurance program in limbo | wwltv.com | Local News (you may have to scroll down a bit to find the story).

SLIDELL, La. - "A bill died in the U.S. Senate Thursday which effective puts the national flood insurance program in limbo.

The flood Insurance program was tied to an unemployment bill, which Senate Republicans voted down. That means, for now, new flood insurance policies are not being written, and flood insurance renewals are not being allowed."
The Republican strategy is clear - obstruct any movement on legislation they possibly can, even if it's legislation they support, and even if it's legislation they helped author and even co-sponsored. Their aim is to show Obama and the Dems as "ineffective" so they can regain power by whatever dishonest means necessary, and the people and the country be damned in the process. The public is so poorly informed and easily manipulated it could work.

The only way to combat it is to call them out, as the president eventually did (much too late) on the Healthcare bill, and show them publicly as the cynical blind obstructionists they are. I don't understand this great fear of the filibuster, caving to Republican demands and gutting legislation to avoid it, and then the dishonest Pubs vote it down anyway! Fuckin force their hand, make them filibuster the old-fashioned way, put it on damn CSPAN, and show them for the pigs and fools they are! Seriously!
 
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The only remaining question is: for how long will we be permitted to enjoy the ensuing sanity?

This unfortunately strongly suggests inexplicably that we haven't seen the last of 'her'.
 

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The Republican strategy is clear - obstruct any movement on legislation they possibly can, even if it's legislation they support, and even if it's legislation they helped author and even co-sponsored.

Absolutely correct.

I'm ashamed to say I was a Republican for many years, until the party went so far Right I couldn't, in all good conscience, identify with it.

And it's only gotten worse since then.


As my bumper sticker says, "OMG, GOP! WTF?"
 

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The Republican strategy is clear - obstruct any movement on legislation they possibly can, even if it's legislation they support, and even if it's legislation they helped author and even co-sponsored. Their aim is to show Obama and the Dems as "ineffective" so they can regain power by whatever dishonest means necessary, and the people and the country be damned in the process. The public is so poorly informed and easily manipulated it could work.

The only way to combat it is to call them out, as the president eventually did (much too late) on the Healthcare bill, and show them publicly as the cynical blind obstructionists they are. I don't understand this great fear of the filibuster, caving to Republican demands and gutting legislation to avoid it, and then the dishonest Pubs vote it down anyway! Fuckin force their hand, make them filibuster the old-fashioned way, put it on damn CSPAN, and show them for the pigs and fools they are! Seriously!

A problem the president is facing is that he is often accused of being arrogant and pushing too hard. Probably that's the reason that he doesn't push even harder. He has a very fine line to toe and it is often difficult to tell exactly what to do.

Perhaps eventually he will invite a filibuster so that the Republican Party will be exposed as obstructionists, but sometimes timing is everything. He may want to put off doing that until just before the elections to maximize the impact. On the other hand, the Republicans might wise up and permit legislation to pass to prevent exposure.

In any case, Obama is no fool. He seems very disciplined and thoughtful. Although it is impossible for him to be always right, I think that he's handling extraordinarily difficult situations exceptionally well.
 

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^ Yes, at least people from both sides came together to work out something. BTW, here is a local story of the further ramifications of the Senate's failure to act:

Flood insurance program in limbo | wwltv.com | Local News (you may have to scroll down a bit to find the story).

SLIDELL, La. - "A bill died in the U.S. Senate Thursday which effective puts the national flood insurance program in limbo.

The flood Insurance program was tied to an unemployment bill, which Senate Republicans voted down. That means, for now, new flood insurance policies are not being written, and flood insurance renewals are not being allowed."

Just in time for hurricane season, too...
 

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When I flew from Buenos Aires to the USA this spring the AeroMexico flight wafted over this giant white expanse of concrete, roads, and an itsy bitsy commercial down town. It took a few minutes before I realized I was looking down on New Orleans. Quite a shock! It's been four or more years and even kudzu hasn't been willing to invade the place?

One of the few remaining/living best friends I have from "my" generation (the late 60s early 70s) has been working hard to convince me that I need to buy a home in Ft. Lauderdale, because the housing market is nose diving for various reasons. I'm not adverse to living in heat and humidity, but then the looming threat of "hurricane season" keeps cropping up. The idea of a vintage cement swimming pool and out door back yard shower is definitely appealing, but . . . hurricane season? Thanks, Bbucko, for scaring me back to my senses and focusing on getting home to BCN as fast as possible. And also for reminding me to write another check (via the Oprah underground) for the continued rebuilding of New Orleans.

A major hurricane in Florida or along the Gulf might well put the fatal crack in what passes in the USA as our economy. Or maybe I've just drank too much coffee today.
 

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^ Yes, at least people from both sides came together to work out something. BTW, here is a local story of the further ramifications of the Senate's failure to act:

Flood insurance program in limbo | wwltv.com | Local News (you may have to scroll down a bit to find the story).

SLIDELL, La. - "A bill died in the U.S. Senate Thursday which effective puts the national flood insurance program in limbo.

The flood Insurance program was tied to an unemployment bill, which Senate Republicans voted down. That means, for now, new flood insurance policies are not being written, and flood insurance renewals are not being allowed."

I do not approve of including unrelated items in a bill. That obviously is done purely for political reasons; it often forces representatives to vote for some thing of which they disapprove to get something of which they approve. Often that's how pork is enacted.
 

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I do not approve of including unrelated items in a bill. That obviously is done purely for political reasons; it often forces representatives to vote for some thing of which they disapprove to get something of which they approve. Often that's how pork is enacted.

I don't either. But if they bothered to strip and pass a bill making sure doctors got an increase in medical fees, they MIGHT have bothered to see to it that people who want to buy and pay for flood insurance coverage could still have that option too.

Their failure is nothing short of selfish, shortsighted, partisan, obstructionist, "damn them all I'm not budging" kind of thinking.
 

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I don't either. But if they bothered to strip and pass a bill making sure doctors got an increase in medical fees, they MIGHT have bothered to see to it that people who want to buy and pay for flood insurance coverage could still have that option too.

Their failure is nothing short of selfish, shortsighted, partisan, obstructionist, "damn them all I'm not budging" kind of thinking.

I agree that the failure is exactly what you say it is. However, because the two items are unrelated, they belong in separate bills.

At first, when the Republican Party's main goal became to obstruct everything the Democrats wanted, regardless of merit and consequences, I was shocked. I no longer am shocked; I've grown to expect it. Now I see it as treasonous.
 

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I agree that the failure is exactly what you say it is. However, because the two items are unrelated, they belong in separate bills.

At first, when the Republican Party's main goal became to obstruct everything the Democrats wanted, regardless of merit and consequences, I was shocked. I no longer am shocked; I've grown to expect it. Now I see it as treasonous.

When it ceases to qualify as disagreement on policy and begins to enter the realm of systematic and deliberate sabotage of this nation's recovery in a time of economic distress; yes, you may indeed be correct.
 

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When it ceases to qualify as disagreement on policy and begins to enter the realm of systematic and deliberate sabotage of this nation's recovery in a time of economic distress; yes, you may indeed be correct.

Yes, I think that I am correct, but I wish that I were not correct.

This afternoon, because I am a registered Republican, I got a call from the Republican Party soliciting my opinion on a few items. I told the caller exactly what I thought, and even said that I consider the Party to be treasonous because it apparently wants to make Obama fail even if that means dragging the country down the drain. I also said that regardless of the candidates running, I plan to vote a straight (excuse the expression) Democratic ticket until the Republican party reforms itself and puts the country ahead of politics.

Being a registered Republican enables me to make complaints like that. If I changed my registration, I would not have that opportunity.