60,000,000 refugees and growing

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WEST AFRICAN migrasnt refugees as well, never ending so sad mmmm


Hundreds of West African migrants deported from Algeria


Hundreds of West African migrants continue to be forcibly deported from Algeria every week.

Many are rounded up in the capital Algiers and bussed to Agadez - over 2,600km to the country’s south.

 

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3 million Syrian refugees in Turkey
Turkish NGOs run,not Turkish Govt
4 years living in a 3 room container/6 children
access to food/healthccare/education
wants to go back to Syria
2 brothers killed/still better off than many he says
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Syrian refugee family continues pigeon keeping tradition in Turkey

The Halabi family lives in the Nizib refugee camp near the Turkish-Syrian border.
They left their home in Aleppo province after their relatives were killed.
At the camp, Mohammed Halabi built a pen to pass the tradition of pigeon keeping to his children.

Imtiaz Tyab reports from the Turkish-Syrian border.


talk talk talk, they dont give a shit all of them dont give a shit
talk talk talk all crap

shitheads elsewhere will look sad and say
'its against human rights'
still F'n going on about the refugees going to the United Stes crap
theyve been talking about that months ago
an excuse
everyone involved a whole lot of rubbish


Manus Island: Australia needs to build a proper hospital to stop refugees from dying, PNG MP says

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-...mp/8148410?WT.mc_id=newsmail&WT.tsrc=Newsmail
 

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never ending story
and i thought i was doing it tough when YHAs never opened there doors till 5 pm? in the 80s



Refugee crisis: Rome lacking shelters and reception centres
The squeeze is on undocumented migrants trying to live in Italy's capital.

Rome's leaders say they do not want any more to arrive and are refusing to provide any formal reception centres.

 

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For years now Obama has been sending arms, money and even U.S. advisers and special forces to encourage the Syrian civil war that has resulted in cataclysmic suffering and destruction and which has driven this refuge disaster. And now, it appears the war is over and Obama lost. How much is it now going to cost the U.S. and Europe to clean up Obama's armagedon there? A trillion? Amateur hour is almost over.
 

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Probably, this has already been posted, but I just read it somewhere and it should be posted again...
According to the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion and Public Life, there are over 4.1 million Muslims in Germany outnumbered in Europe only by France, with 4.7 million. It is estimated that by 2030, Germany will have over 5.5 million Muslims and in France, over 6.8 million.
The United Kingdom has 2.8 million Muslims, projected to grow to over 5.5 million by 2030.

Looming demographic threats always seem to torment those who have used their power and influence to exploit others. They seem to fear retaliatory justice caused by their own malevolent words and actions.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/19/5-facts-about-the-muslim-population-in-europe/
 
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that stat has not been posted before Boobs and i would know
i thank you for your contribution on the thread and the subject of migrant refugees. appreciated
may there be more in 2017

the world NEEDS to know,refugee/religious plight or not?


Probably, this has already been posted, but I just read it somewhere and it should be posted again...


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Looming demographic threats always seem to torment those who have used their power and influence to exploit others. They seem to fear retaliatory justice caused by their own malevolent words and actions.

and yes
i am a 1/3rd pissed on NYs eve NZT
 

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Probably, this has already been posted, but I just read it somewhere and it should be posted again...
According to the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion and Public Life, there are over 4.1 million Muslims in Germany outnumbered in Europe only by France, with 4.7 million. It is estimated that by 2030, Germany will have over 5.5 million Muslims and in France, over 6.8 million.
The United Kingdom has 2.8 million Muslims, projected to grow to over 5.5 million by 2030.

Looming demographic threats always seem to torment those who have used their power and influence to exploit others. They seem to fear retaliatory justice caused by their own malevolent words and actions.

Do you believe that Muslim immigration has been beneficial for the aforementioned nations and, if so, in what way(s)? Thanks.
 

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What a question..lol
Do you believe your ancestors immigration to "Indian Territory" was beneficial for the aforementioned inhabitants of said territory?
 

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Do you believe that Muslim immigration has been beneficial for the aforementioned nations and, if so, in what way(s)? Thanks.
Living a town with about 25% muslims mostly living in a parallel society.. It's the 2nd and 3rd generation in general. Their (grand)parents came decades ago. And a majority still prefers an archaic world view over western freedom and equality. Over 50% of the youth states that the Islam is more important than local laws.
So, your guess.

That's a very nationalistic view and one I don't ascribe to.
Is it? Religion has nothing to do with nations imo. Immigration in general doesn't equal immigration of people of a completely different cultural and religious background.
 
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Living a town with about 25% muslims mostly living in a parallel society.. It's the 2nd and 3rd generation in general. Their (grand)parents came decades ago. And a majority still prefers an archaic world view over western freedom and equality. Over 50% of the youth states that the Islam is more important than local laws.
So, your guess.
Is it? Religion has nothing to do with nations imo. Immigration in general doesn't equal immigration of people of a completely different cultural and religious background.

Look this is for @86Rick, too:
Both sets of my grandparents were ethnic Greek immigrants who spoke no English when they got here: My dad's parents moved into a 'Greek ghetto' and my mom's parents moved into a Sephardi Jewish enclave. Both communities were exclusionary zones: they felt comfortable among what they knew, and Americans were happy with them going into those neighborhoods where WASPs didn't have to deal with ethnics: shades of Irish, Italian, immigrants all over again. Loss of identity is very threatening to an ethnic immigrant.
My dad had to go to Greek school on Saturdays (I never went) , and his family social environment was Greek--except for public schools. And that's pretty much where assimilation begins: some in first-gen Americans, some in second-gen, some in third-gen. but eventually kids get alienated from the old culture and go on their way.

My kids' assimilation came swiftly because I had left the 'mother-city', went into university systems for baccalaureate and advanced degrees, and married a woman who'd grown up on planet Southern California :) My wife took it even further: when our twin sons were born, each had his own room, and we sent each to separate schools: the twins were not going to grow up, as my wife determined, to think of themselves as a pair but as individuals (she was a twin and didn't like it when others treated her as a 'halfsie'). Individuation takes time and effort. She spoke only the Greek swear words, curses, and phrases I taught her, because she didn't want not to understand what I was saying when I used the language. Also, we could swear in front of the kids :)
I still have to laugh when my wife, when a cop pulled her over, said 'your mother grabs her ankles for three-legged dogs'.

And going back to visit Greek parents and grandparents? I'll never forget flying back from a visit to my grandparents with my wife (who was yes, an outsider to both households) and she muttered under her breath as we got off the plane 'I want a fucking hamburger, fries and a shake, and whatever I fix for dinner tonight is gonna have Velveeta in it'. My kids weren't raised eating Greek food, my wife patiently learned to cook some of it--the dishes she liked. We did baptize, chrismate, and communicate our kids in the Greek Orthodox church, but we dropped out of that when our eldest son came out.: the church had no place for him, so our family had no place for the church. If the kids go back to church, that's their decision, and it probably won't be GrOrth. They are not nostalgic types.

It takes generations, Snakebyte, so don't be impatient. Wait until the kids you mention eat their first pulled-pork barbeque or get a mouthful of bangers and mash and find themselves making friends with and being attracted to others outside the faith/language community. Alienation from a mother-ethnic culture takes time, lots of time. I have at least three Muslim friends, one Pakistani, one Indian, and one Algerian who have shared similar feelings about growing out of a hide-bound ethnic culture. It does happen, it just takes time.

It doesn't help that we've elected a xenophobe. I'm minded of Ferdinand and Isabella expelling the Jews and breaking up El Andaluz, where three faiths had gotten along well together happily for quite some time. My mother's family was originally expelled as Jews from Toledo Spain and eventually ended up in Saloniki in Greece--but we are all Americans now and this is our country.

Be patient.
 
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[QUOTE="Is it? Religion has nothing to do with nations imo. Immigration in general doesn't equal immigration of people of a completely different cultural and religious background.[/QUOTE]

Got it, non whites, non Europeans need not apply.
 
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and who is responsibl;e
everyone?


Refugee crisis 2016: 12 countries, 12 months


A look back at the 2016 refugee crisis from 12 different countries.
31 Dec 2016 09:40 GMT | Human Rights, Refugees, Syrian Refugees, Politics, War & Conflict

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http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/in...il&utm_term=0_e427298a68-6e5c293b5e-224064669
 

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It takes generations, Snakebyte, so don't be impatient.
No, that's the thing. It's actually going backwards. It's been generations and it's getting worse.. not better.
Like I said, immigration isn't immigration. We have portuguese, italians, greek, russians, sikh etc. They all are doing fine. They want to be a part of society like everybody else. It's the muslims (majority turkish) who even in the 3rd generation don't want to be part of that society but of a parallel society. Of course there are exceptions. Like I said over 50% stated in interviews that their religion is more important than local laws. Just take a look what happened a year ago in cologne. The same would have happened this year if there weren't 1500 police officers around. Yup, you read correctly, 1500 police officers on one spot. Guess what. Again, just like last year over 1000 muslim immigrants came to cologne as an huge group.. well organized.
Don't get me wrong, but the US doesn't have a clue about that problem since they simply don't have that much muslim immigrants by far. And the muslims coming to the US are more educated and open-minded in general. That's what you really need to understand, the situation in the US and Europe isn't the same.

That said, I have several muslim friends from Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan. Like I said, there are exceptions of course. But indeed, were I live they are the exceptions.

Got it, non whites, non Europeans need not apply.
Holy cow, you like to twist words don't you. Religion has nothing to do with colour of skin or being from Europe. Sometimes I really wonder how you got to be moderator tbh.
 
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How exactly should this new economy look like?
If not capitalism, what else? Socialism, communism, protectionism or something else?
How would you guarantee the prosperity in Europe, the USA and Australia, but also make sure that the poorest in S.America, Asia and Africa will profit from it?
How would you fight inequality in a nation?
How to stop pollution?

Can you name details?
This isn't our responsibility and the U.S. or Europe or any Nation for that mater simply cannot fix it. The U.S. must be strong direct and very aggressive when it comes to our security. However it seems we would have learned the lesson by now that we can't police the rest of the world. We have a moral obligation to assist in humanitarian aid to people around the world when possible and in a manner that does not weaken or endanger the security of our nation and citizens. The people of these middle East nations are alone responsible for there peace and prosperity. One issue among many that they must address and solve is of course radical Islamic beliefs. You can say what you will however no other major world religion in the modern world has this problem within its believers. Over 1 billion Muslims in the world and anytime the Islamic Faith travels into a Nation that is traditionally Christians or other the strife violence and turmoil present in middle eastern Muslim nations instantly become present in these nations. There are also over 1 billion Catholics in the world as well however there is no such violent crippling issues of any sort existing anywhere as a result of Catholic beliefs. I am aware that a small portion of Muslims which are extremist and fanatics are the responsible parties and that the majority of Muslims are peaceful good people. However there is very little to almost no mass outrage and condemnation of this radical jihadist brand of Islam among the whole of this religions followers. When it is present its a slight whisper and insignificant to the denouncement needed. We cannot take in and offer asylum to vast numbers of Islamic refugees that can't be in any way spoken for as to their possible threat to U.S. security prosperity and safety. I'm European nations that have attempted to do so civil strife violence and turmoil are erupting in epic proportions. It's not a problem that is ours to fix and we are not capable to do so. The people of the Muslim world must solve this growing problem themselves. Because it is rapidly spilling over into other nations.
 
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No, that's the thing. It's actually going backwards. It's been generations and it's getting worse.. not better.
Like I said, immigration isn't immigration. We have portuguese, italians, greek, russians, sikh etc. They all are doing fine. They want to be a part of society like everybody else. It's the muslims (majority turkish) who even in the 3rd generation don't want to be part of that society but of a parallel society. Of course there are exceptions. Like I said over 50% stated in interviews that their religion is more important than local laws. Just take a look what happened a year ago in cologne. The same would have happened this year if there weren't 1500 police officers around. Yup, you read correctly, 1500 police officers on one spot. Guess what. Again, just like last year over 1000 muslim immigrants came to cologne as an huge group.. well organized.
Don't get me wrong, but the US doesn't have a clue about that problem since they simply don't have that much muslim immigrants by far. And the muslims coming to the US are more educated and open-minded in general. That's what you really need to understand, the situation in the US and Europe isn't the same.

That said, I have several muslim friends from Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan. Like I said, there are exceptions of course. But indeed, were I live they are the exceptions.


Holy cow, you like to twist words don't you. Religion has nothing to do with colour of skin or being from Europe. Sometimes I really wonder how you got to be moderator tbh.
Very well stated. The problem that currently exists in Europe is not at all similar to anything present in the U.S...The mainstream media excludes in many cases completely so much information about very pertinent major events here and abroad which effects now or eventually humanity world wide. Britain Germany France for example are presently flooded with an uncontrollable population of Muslim immigrants and refugees that in no way what so ever attempt or want to assimilate. On the contrary they disrupt all aspects of legal and civil peace in every way possible. Demanding usually by lawless and violent force of various natures unreasonable privileges exemptions favor and rights native law in no manner offers especially considering that a vast amount of them are not legal citizens. They disrupt daily course of life for the native population. Rebuke disturb and assail existing laws customs traditions and legitimate rights of legal citizens. They protest rally and riot for implementing of Islam's Sharia system of law which is to say the very least oppressive impractical and incompatible with western the ideas beliefs and fundamental values of western civilization. I'm London huge groups of Muslims bring traffic on major public roads to a standstill kneeling towards Mecca for prayer right in the street. Also in London there has increasingly become predominantly Muslim neighborhoods and other areas that police disregard and in some cases refuse to enter let alone make an attempt to enforce the law of the land within. This is because of the threat to their safety should this even be attempted. In all these countries these Islamic refugees or rather terroristic bullies assault non Muslim citizens vandalize churches destroy public and private property and engage in all manner of criminal aggressive and violent activity imaginable. To be frank and not at all dramatic, France and Germany in particular are on the verge of anarchy and total collapse. While the news media in the U.S. remains completely silent concerning this current crisis threatening the know existence of the whole of Europe. So there is no comparison between the situation there and any events in the U.S..
 

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ITALY the new GREECE for migrant refugees or more so African refugees?

Italy's anti-mafia squad in overdrive as asylum seekers flood into Europe

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aly's investigators are ramping up their efforts to stop organised criminal gangs — including the mafia — from smuggling people into the country, in the face of record asylum seeker arrivals

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-...ly/8157396?WT.mc_id=newsmail&WT.tsrc=Newsmail

Europe's migrant crisis far from over as asylum seeker arrivals in Mediterranean spikes

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-...ows-europes-migration-crisis-not-over/7805190
 

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11 nobels sign Open Letter to one obviously undeserving Nobel, like someone else we know,To Daw Aung San Suu Kyi

NOT THIS LETTER
written 4 years ago


An Open Letter To Daw Aung San Suu Kyi Regarding The Rohingya Issue

http://www.eurasiareview.com/180920...ung-san-suu-kyi-regarding-the-rohingya-issue/


Nobel laureates criticize Aung San Suu Kyi over Rohingya


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap...-Aung-San-Suu-Kyi-Rohingya.html#ixzz4UdxTu6rw


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap...ates-criticize-Aung-San-Suu-Kyi-Rohingya.html

as expected
exactly how one would expect a military mindset Govt who has ultimate power over everything incl the supposed nobel person named above
part of the political system indeed
puppetts the lot of them
pure animals

Myanmar: Nobel laureates urge UN Security Council to end 'ethnic cleansing' in Rakhine State

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-...el-laureates-urge-un-security-council/8153684


Myanmar to take action after Rakhine assault video goes viral

Myanmar's Government vows to take action against police officers who assaulted villagers in Rakhine State, after a video of the incident circulates on the internet.