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Discussion in 'Et Cetera, Et Cetera' started by D_N Flay Table, Feb 9, 2007.
Who do you think is behind the tradgedy of 9/11?
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Loose Change Website - Version 2.0
Alex Jones' Prison Planet.com: The Earth Is Being Turned Into A Prison Planet
Ah, I'm not really up on the conspiracy stuff, but isn't Mossad supposed to be on the list?
Coming out of lurkdom to post this because this is a topic that I've spent a great deal of time trying to research. I am shocked to realize that the biggest crime in US history has gone largely uninvestigated. There are people, I think, who do know what really happened on 9/11, I am not one of them for sure, but there are a growing number of people who are starting to demand answers to a whole series of unanswered questions.
That morning I watched those towers fall and I thought, hmmm., thats odd, I had visited the WTC several times and I remember the tour guide specifically stating that they were designed to withstand (several) impacts from a major aircraft. But we heard, over and over again in the media, that they collapsed because of the fires caused by the burning fuel so I let it go, until
last spring, someone told me about WTC7. The third building that fell several hours later, it wasn't even hit by a plane, but it collapsed in the same manner as the twin towers. You can find video of the collapse of WTC7 many places on the net, have a look, it is a controlled demolition. Whats up with that? A bit more research will tell you that those buildings are the only 3 steel frame high rise structures that have ever (supposed to have) collapsed because of fire, all on the same day. Combine that with many other questionable things that happened that day, and you have to wonder, why are there so many unanswered questions?
I am seriously concerned about what is happening in the US, look at what has happened since 9/11, the country is heading towards tyranny. Its all happened so slowly and under the guise of fighting "terrorism", personal freedoms and human rights have slipped back several hundred years. Plus, you have that war happening, for what? And now heading towards an extension of that to Iran? Most of my best friends are Americans, and I spent some of my most formative and enjoyable years when I lived there. But right now, I have serious concerns, I am afraid the US is heading towards disaster.
Not to worry, we're taking the rest of the world with us!
Conspiracy theorists like myself just can't seem to wipe the smirks off our faces anymore. You're right- someone knows what happened, I just hope that truth comes to light at some point.
It was a giant conspiracy by the US barber's union. They needed to demonise people with beards so they can make more money for shaving them off.
They used a hologram projector to show the planes, and weakened the building's structure by leaving hairdryers on in all the toilets.
Or maybe not, but it's about as believable as all the other stupid conspiracy theories.
All I'm gonna say is it sure the fuck wasn't Iraq.
It sure as hell was Saudi.
I agree with Maddox.
Decided not to be involved.
decided not to be involved.
I agree with Matt & Trey. Just don't want to be mean by pointing it out right now.
Let's get the Hardly Boys on this one.
I do not know, I do not care,. It happened let's make sure it doesn't ever happen again.
I think not caring about who committed the sept 11th attacks is a very odd comment to make, and its your choice to make it.
I wish I could believe the official story..
I really wish I could.
Not this again. Loose Change is bullshit. WTC 7 fell due to extensive fire damage, and a general compromise of its structural integrity. The video always neglects to show footage of the heavily damaged other side of WTC 7. And you'd have to be a moron to believe it was a controlled demolition. Not only that, it was said that the Tower could withstand a hit from a 707 (possibly a different number but definitely a much older and smaller model), NOT a 767. The latter is more modern, and carries a helluva lot more fuel, which is why the terrorists selected it in the first place. More fuel = more fire = longer burn. It's effectively a passenger incindiary bomb in the wrong pilot's hands.
If you are reasoning from the postulate that the world doesn't actually have a problem with homicidal Islam, then the war against such must indeed seem like a put-on, a mask to obfuscate encroaching tyranny or a plot to enrich Halliburton, whichever you prefer. Then of course you'll be clueless as to the point of the Iraq experiment, and you reach the desired result - it's all Chimpy McHalliburton-Hitler Bush's fault.
If, however, you think that just possibly radical Islam is indeed up to its old intolerant religious tricks (not for the first time, of course), and using its few strengths to take advantage of the many chinks in the armor of liberal society - in other words, that we're in the middle of a good old medieval-style religious war, like it or not - then the war against terrorism is obviously real. In that context, Iraq makes perfect sense. In fact, it's brilliant, if you grasp some of the basic strategy. And the only tyranny to beware of is creeping socialism and mindless PC-ism, which we'd have with or without the September attacks.
Whether the US is heading for disaster is, to a large degree, a matter of definition. I think it might be, but not the disaster you're probably thinking of.
please show me the video of the 'heavily damaged' wtc7. here are some. Larry Silverstein Admits to Demolishing World Trade Center 7 on 9/11 - Google Video YouTube - WTC-7 Any Questions YouTube - WTC 7 9-11 any questions? please keep in mind that 'fires' happen often in sky scrapers.. however only 3 have ever fallen becuase of it. tower 1 tower 2 and wtc7
You are quoting the spin of Loose Change almost verbatim. I don't have the time or patience to show you how wrong you are, so I'll let this show you instead: Loose Change 2nd Edition Viewer Guide
Make sure to put aside some time to read it thoroughly.
EDIT: Did it ever occur to you that "pulling" a building with regards to the fire department could mean PULLING OUT? WTC 7 collapsed a few hours after the twin towers did. Silverstein saw how hundreds of firefighters were KILLED in both collapses, and decided not to risk so many more lives in possibly saving WTC 7 from the same fate. He weighed his losses and made the correct decision. Now, what did I say about spin, again?
I must be a moron then.