Hell, if you didn't fill up by early morning Tuesday (at least in Michigan) you're gonna be SOL because gas already went from $2.58/gal to $2.99/gal...and that's even before the traditional Labor Day increases.
A Boycott Ive Heard About
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Get ready for another increase: Hurricane Katrina took out a refinery and a couple of offshore tankers. Gas prices are expected to rise another 15¢ per gallon and not go back down after Labor Day.
Yeah...most of my extended family lives in New Orleans and are now homeless. I'm kinda aware of the hurricane.
That doesn't mean that the gas had some sort of magical transformation in the station tanks.
And oil futures trading at over $70? Bullshit. Traders had already figured in the costs of a major hurricane weeks before Katrina was a blip on the radar. There are NO shortages of gas or oil in this country, I think this gouging is akin to what happened in Calif. a few years ago with electricity...greed.
I gotcha...and thanks for the words...but as to your other point:
It isn't like this is the first hurricane to hit this area, right? Gas prices haven't spiked this much since the start of the first gulf war. Something's rotten in Demmark, methinks.
Uncertainty of future supply? It isn't as if there's no more oil & natural gas in the gulf. They might have to repair a couple of rigs, but everything that was there before, supply-wise is still going to be there a month from now.
Not to say you don't make any good points though. I just think that they are using them as excuses to rape the public rather than relying on actual facts.
It isn't like this is the first hurricane to hit this area, right? Gas prices haven't spiked this much since the start of the first gulf war. Something's rotten in Demmark, methinks.
Uncertainty of future supply? It isn't as if there's no more oil & natural gas in the gulf. They might have to repair a couple of rigs, but everything that was there before, supply-wise is still going to be there a month from now.
Not to say you don't make any good points though. I just think that they are using them as excuses to rape the public rather than relying on actual facts.
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Gas here went up 60-70 cents a gallon to $3.199 in a matter of 2-3 days. I filled up last night at a station at $2.799 and drove past it again 10 minutes later and it was $3.199.
Don't tell me they got a delivery and the wholesale price went up that much!
The oil companies use any excuse thay can to 'temporarliy' raise prices due to 'supply and demand' yet the prices never, ever go back down to what they were before the 'temporary' crisis.
Purely greed. :evilgrin:
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Don't tell me they got a delivery and the wholesale price went up that much!
The oil companies use any excuse thay can to 'temporarliy' raise prices due to 'supply and demand' yet the prices never, ever go back down to what they were before the 'temporary' crisis.
Purely greed. :evilgrin:
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Bully O'Liely is calling for a gas boycott every Sunday (through the end of the year...? Not sure). Not going to help unless people actually cut their driving significantly.
Here in Michigan gas went down a bit today. 3.09 per gallon. Just heard a report that Marathon Gas Stations around the state will voluntarily cap their prices at 2.99 per gallon. I am surprised to say it, but I think O'Reilly's broadcast actually had a hand in this!
Here in Michigan gas went down a bit today. 3.09 per gallon. Just heard a report that Marathon Gas Stations around the state will voluntarily cap their prices at 2.99 per gallon. I am surprised to say it, but I think O'Reilly's broadcast actually had a hand in this!
First, I'd like to say--DMW, I'm very happy you're okay... I was thinking about some of my friends back in Louisiana and thought about you, wondering if you made it out, and I'm very glad to see you did...
Also, about the hurricane... my dad's in Ponchatoula--he said he's sleeping with his AK47 at night because it's martial law in the area now...
But, about gas... It went up to over 3 bucks a gallon here in Clearwater... I don't know exactly because I was lucky enough to tank up before it skyrocketed and I paid 2.699 a gallon... Also, there is a major gas thing going on now... I've heard that the lines at the gas stations here are insane and that most gas stations around here are out of the regular unleaded cheap shit we all use, and even out of the mid grade, so people are stuck paying close to 3.299 a gallon...
Also, about the hurricane... my dad's in Ponchatoula--he said he's sleeping with his AK47 at night because it's martial law in the area now...
But, about gas... It went up to over 3 bucks a gallon here in Clearwater... I don't know exactly because I was lucky enough to tank up before it skyrocketed and I paid 2.699 a gallon... Also, there is a major gas thing going on now... I've heard that the lines at the gas stations here are insane and that most gas stations around here are out of the regular unleaded cheap shit we all use, and even out of the mid grade, so people are stuck paying close to 3.299 a gallon...
This afternoon we went to the movie. Passed the gas station. Reg Unleaded was $2.99. When we headed home 2.5 hours later, it was $3.09. Tomorrow?
BTW, "The Great Raid" really, really sucks. Incredible story, all true...but f'n bad film. So that was waaaaaaaaay OT.
And New Mexico is an oil producing state that receives no oil from the Gulf Coast. Sniff, sniff.
BTW, "The Great Raid" really, really sucks. Incredible story, all true...but f'n bad film. So that was waaaaaaaaay OT.
And New Mexico is an oil producing state that receives no oil from the Gulf Coast. Sniff, sniff.
right now im a metropolitan area so i just bike/walk/use public transportation. i feel bad for folks in more rural areas, although the price increase may be what is needed to begin the weening of americans off of oil.
edit: by the way it was like 3.23 galon at the gas station near me when i filled up last, which was before the hurricane.
edit: by the way it was like 3.23 galon at the gas station near me when i filled up last, which was before the hurricane.
http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/glo...ices/price.html
Gas is 14 CENTS a gallon in Venezuela. We keep hearing about SO much more demand in China causing this so called "shortage" where in Shanghai gas is $1.48. I for one am sick to death of this mindless "free trade" obsession from the politicans. All it ever means is how many more Americans can we put out of work by sending their jobs overseas? Who do they represent anyway? Americans who elect them? Or Chinese, Indians, Mexicans etc? I feel like they care more about foreigners than their constituants. I feel like we're subsidizing their economy, first with millions of our jobs shipped over there and now with their energy costs. Gas companies are making obscene profits gouging us at the pumps and the "energy bill" gave another $15 Billion free cash to them. For what? The powers that be have targeted $5.00 a gallon gas as a standard price in the U.S. you wait and see. Dick Chaney (ex CEO of Big Oil Halibertan) has a secret meeting to plan the energy policy for "We The People of The United States" but "We" can't know who attended, no consumers, no enviromentalists, no one, and now look at oil profits and prices. We spent hundreds of Billions and thousand of lives in Iraq with one of the biggest oil reserves in the world and gas is currently $4.00 a gallon. Excuse me! Something is very rotten in this country. I am actually starting to believe our politicians are traitors and are actively trying to undermine our country. I'm not pointing fingers at republicans only, there's plenty of guilty democrats as well. This whole thing just stinks big time and I'm really starting to get pissed.
I think I better go to bed....
Gas is 14 CENTS a gallon in Venezuela. We keep hearing about SO much more demand in China causing this so called "shortage" where in Shanghai gas is $1.48. I for one am sick to death of this mindless "free trade" obsession from the politicans. All it ever means is how many more Americans can we put out of work by sending their jobs overseas? Who do they represent anyway? Americans who elect them? Or Chinese, Indians, Mexicans etc? I feel like they care more about foreigners than their constituants. I feel like we're subsidizing their economy, first with millions of our jobs shipped over there and now with their energy costs. Gas companies are making obscene profits gouging us at the pumps and the "energy bill" gave another $15 Billion free cash to them. For what? The powers that be have targeted $5.00 a gallon gas as a standard price in the U.S. you wait and see. Dick Chaney (ex CEO of Big Oil Halibertan) has a secret meeting to plan the energy policy for "We The People of The United States" but "We" can't know who attended, no consumers, no enviromentalists, no one, and now look at oil profits and prices. We spent hundreds of Billions and thousand of lives in Iraq with one of the biggest oil reserves in the world and gas is currently $4.00 a gallon. Excuse me! Something is very rotten in this country. I am actually starting to believe our politicians are traitors and are actively trying to undermine our country. I'm not pointing fingers at republicans only, there's plenty of guilty democrats as well. This whole thing just stinks big time and I'm really starting to get pissed.
I think I better go to bed....
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The situation is not that much better in the Land of the Maple Leaf where
prices also have hit record highs: they are well above $1.00 Canadian per litre in most of Canada (and $1.34 Canadian per litre here in the Greater Montreal area!
. (1 Imperial Gallon= 5.4 litres, 1 US Gallon= 4.8 litres)We are an oil-producing nation, yet OUR politicians are unable or unwilling to stop the fleecing of OUR people by the (mainly foreign-owned) oil companies. All say that it is a question of supply and demand. How does greed factor in the equation?
I also believe that a boycott would not work because it is a temporary measure. We must change our ways, we must drastically reduce our consumption; walking to work or using public transit are but a few examples- such measures are good for our pocket books and the environment. In the long-term, we will have to find cleaner and renewable energy sources, and say goodbye to oil.
Happy Labour Day on Monday! :hi:
I think I now understand "AOL Inches!" There must be something about the internet that makes people exagerate weights and measures.
It being that one liter is a bit bigger than a US Quart, and that there are 4 quarts to a US gallon, how is it plausible that there are 4.8 liters to a US gallon, as claimed?
The correct conversion factors are as follows:
1 US Liquid Gallon = 3.785411784 liters
1 Imperial Gallon = 4.54609188 liters
(By the way, there is a US unit known as a dry gallon, which is 1.16364719 US liquid gallons, or 4.4048838 liters, but that obviously is not used to measure gasoline.)
Just to add to confusion, while both US and Imperial gallons consist of 4 quarts, a US quart is 32 US fluid ounces, while an Imperial quart is 40 Imperial fluid ounces. The Imperial system is the legal trade system in Canada.
you know what the US stand for in the rest of the world? capitalism.
and you know what makes the oil prices rise? capitalism.
so either you start voting and acting socialist or you stop complaining!
and you know what makes the oil prices rise? capitalism.
so either you start voting and acting socialist or you stop complaining!
I'm sorry...but I didn't read all of the posts. So, I hope I'm not re-stating other comments.
But here's the economics of the situation (I'm an econ guy).
1) The price of gas is determined by market demand. As industrialized nations, the U.S. as well as other civil, socially evolved societies nations need petroleum.
2) The only effective boycott would be one that targets unfriendly, socially un-evolved nations that are increasing petroleum demand (China). Boycott China and other communist states that are jockeying to control oil.
3) STOP DRIVING GOD-DAMN SUVs!!! Yes, I'm a proud American. But, we definately need to drive fuel efficient vehicles. I'm unapologetic about my western pride, but waste is waste. Don't allow communist degenerates or Muslim trash to gain the upper hand.
But here's the economics of the situation (I'm an econ guy).
1) The price of gas is determined by market demand. As industrialized nations, the U.S. as well as other civil, socially evolved societies nations need petroleum.
2) The only effective boycott would be one that targets unfriendly, socially un-evolved nations that are increasing petroleum demand (China). Boycott China and other communist states that are jockeying to control oil.
3) STOP DRIVING GOD-DAMN SUVs!!! Yes, I'm a proud American. But, we definately need to drive fuel efficient vehicles. I'm unapologetic about my western pride, but waste is waste. Don't allow communist degenerates or Muslim trash to gain the upper hand.
Remember that the reason that gas prices as determined by OPEC are set the way they are is to encourage the continued use of oil. The economic ramifications of us just deciding not to use oil are not appealing. While oil is cheap it is unreasonable to expect businesses to invest in alternative energy sources, once oil becomes too expensive to mine and use the cost benefit of using alternative energys will kick in and business will invest in making alternative energy not only a reality but efficient and cheap. The way to make people stop using oil and still keep the economy going (ie people still need to travel to work and to the shops etc) is to make efficient alternative energy the most economic viability for businesses, once you have them everyone else will follow.
For those of you out there who don't like the global economy / outsourcing / free trade etc I would say wake up and realise that we live in a global world. If you want to stop global trade and keep manufacturing and other industries going in your country stop buying things from Walmart or Tescos. Everyone clamours for cheap goods and services, so either only buy the expensive stuff or sit back, shut up and understand that you might have to change jobs to keep up with the changing global life.
By the way, shutting down the oil companies and other big businesses in the US and Europe would destroy all aid going to the third world and developing countries. You hurt big business you end up harming those who need are help the most. Where did you think all the money going into aid packages comes from???
For those of you out there who don't like the global economy / outsourcing / free trade etc I would say wake up and realise that we live in a global world. If you want to stop global trade and keep manufacturing and other industries going in your country stop buying things from Walmart or Tescos. Everyone clamours for cheap goods and services, so either only buy the expensive stuff or sit back, shut up and understand that you might have to change jobs to keep up with the changing global life.
By the way, shutting down the oil companies and other big businesses in the US and Europe would destroy all aid going to the third world and developing countries. You hurt big business you end up harming those who need are help the most. Where did you think all the money going into aid packages comes from???
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